Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licence brief/Use Case - final callfor comments

2008-10-14 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Frederik Ramm wrote:
>Sent: 14 October 2008 12:55 PM
>To: Licensing and other legal discussions.
>Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licence brief/Use Case - final callfor
>comments
>
>Andy,
>
>Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote:
>> You are already aware that the OSMF has an ongoing project in this
>respect
>> and SteveC posted an update on progress only two days ago. Most of what
>you
>> are suggesting above is already in our implementation plan.
>
>Can I suggest that the Foundation publish their plan to avoid double and
>triple work. I had until now concluded from the relative lack of
>communications on the part of the Foundation that there isn't a real
>plan and was therefore quite happy for someone (Peter) to show some
>initiative. (Indeed I assumed that the Foundation would be happy as well
>- the Foundation didn't give the impression of embracing the topic at
>all so I figured they might be relieved to have Peter do it.) Apologies
>if I misjudged the Foundation's work - it wouldn't hurt if the
>Foundation not only worked hard but also talked about it ;-)
>
>Does the Foundation's plan have any sort of dates put to it, or any
>timeframe at all, or is it more or less "it takes as long as it takes"?
>

OSMF agreed previously to set a target deadline for implementation by
Christmas. The problems surrounding the legal review that Steve posted about
has probably caused a bit of a hiccup on that timeline but if it's possible
to speed up later events we should.

Better communication on the matter is something we are all working at :-)

Cheers

Andy

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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licence brief/Use Case - final callfor comments

2008-10-15 Thread Peter Miller


> -Original Message-
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> callfor comments
> 
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 01:36:39PM +0100, Peter Miller wrote:
> > I was really signalling that I had got the Brief and Use Cases into a
> form
> > where I was happy with them and where I thought they covered the issues
> > raised but needed confirmation re that from others.
> 
> The way you phrased it made it sound "final" even if it wasn't.  May I
> suggest that if you have a timetable for working out your brief that you
> publish it, _before_ telling people their time is up?
> 

Fair point!

Let's just say that I am pretty much done on the Brief and Use Cases, and
SteveC has confirmed that he is meeting the new lawyer pretty soon and he
also mentioned that he will be using Use Cases in his brief to the lawyer
(and hopefully something like the proposed Brief as well but he hasn't
confirmed that to me or the list) and so it would be good to have any
concerns about the proposed User Cases raised before that un-specified date.
My experience is that setting a 'deadline' is a good way to get feedback,
even if the deadline it actually turns out not to be a deadline.

Without knowing what the actual date is (and I don't think SteveC knows that
yet) I suggest we work to our own timetable. If anyone wants to suggest a
better cut-off date then fire away, possibly Monday would give people more
time to respond because clearly no one is going to be talking to lawyers
over the weekend (that's really expensive!).

Let's not just let time slip by. As the saying goes 'Q:   How did this
project get a year late?   A: One day at a time sir!)


Regards,



Peter


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