Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM compatibility of licenses which restrict modification
At least in English, "not reuse the Information in a way that suggests that it is official or that Licensor approves your use of the Information; take all reasonable steps to ensure that the uses permitted above do not mislead others and that the Information itself is not misrepresented." reads as a trademark clause, which has always been okay and compatible. -Kathleen On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 8:42 AM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 14. Jul 2020, at 15:28, Mateusz Konieczny > wrote: > > > > Maybe they assume that it is covered > > anyway by moral rights? > > > > But ODBL waives moral rights if allowed > > by law, > > it attempts to block asserting such claims, > > and so on. > > > > Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer etc > > > neither am I, just wondering up to which level contradictions and > uncertainties in licensing terms are still ok for OpenStreetMap and when > it’s too much. > > Cheers Martin > ___ > legal-talk mailing list > legal-talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk > ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM compatibility of licenses which restrict modification
sent from a phone > On 14. Jul 2020, at 15:28, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > Maybe they assume that it is covered > anyway by moral rights? > > But ODBL waives moral rights if allowed > by law, > it attempts to block asserting such claims, > and so on. > > Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer etc neither am I, just wondering up to which level contradictions and uncertainties in licensing terms are still ok for OpenStreetMap and when it’s too much. Cheers Martin ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM compatibility of licenses which restrict modification
14 Jul 2020, 14:54 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > > > sent from a phone > > >> On 14. Jul 2020, at 12:40, Mateusz Konieczny via legal-talk >> wrote: >> >> Such data is incompatible with >> OSM requirements, must not be >> imported, must be removed as >> copyright violation if added already. >> > > > on the plus side there is a declaration of the license steward that the > license is compatible with the ODbL. > Maybe they assume that it is covered anyway by moral rights? But ODBL waives moral rights if allowed by law, it attempts to block asserting such claims, and so on. Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer etc___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM compatibility of licenses which restrict modification
sent from a phone > On 14. Jul 2020, at 12:40, Mateusz Konieczny via legal-talk > wrote: > > Such data is incompatible with > OSM requirements, must not be > imported, must be removed as > copyright violation if added already. on the plus side there is a declaration of the license steward that the license is compatible with the ODbL. I’ve found this document which indicates the compatibility is “likely ok” https://www.jlis.it/article/downloadSuppFile/5461/271 licence in question is the IODL 1 and 2. Cheers Martin ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM compatibility of licenses which restrict modification
14 Jul 2020, 11:37 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > Can we guarantee that the contained information is not "misrepresented"? > No. ODBL has no such restrictions. Therefore OSM data can be used in several evil or non-evil ways that would violate such clauses. Such data is incompatible with OSM requirements, must not be imported, must be removed as copyright violation if added already.___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
[OSM-legal-talk] OSM compatibility of licenses which restrict modification
In recent local discussions it has emerged that some license has conditions for the reuse of the data, which may eventually not be completely compatible with OSM. In particular it relates to an Italian license which states as a condition you have to "not reuse the Information in a way that suggests that it is official or that Licensor approves your use of the Information; take all reasonable steps to ensure that the uses permitted above do not mislead others and that the Information itself is not misrepresented." original text: "non riutilizzare le Informazioni in un modo che suggerisca che abbiano carattere di ufficialità o che il Licenziante approvi l'uso che fai delle Informazioni; prendere ogni misura ragionevole affinché gli usi innanzi consentiti non traggano in inganno altri soggetti e le Informazioni medesime non vengano travisate." Can we guarantee that the contained information is not "misrepresented"? IIRR, in the past we have rejected import plans where such discriminatory clauses have been present in the license. Cheers Martin ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
