Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Permissibility of incorporating parts of an address from a business' website
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:25 AM, Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es wrote: Would it make a difference if the business is a large chain and had more than one address (possible a lot more than one address) on its website? In that case, you're doing a repeated extraction of non-substantial amounts of data. And that's perfectly OK to do under european law (and you retain all copyrights of the derived work of your repeated extraction). I'm not sure it has to do with non-substantial amounts of data. But business websites publishing their own address or list of addresses is reallly intended to be shared and republished everywhere. It would be different if the website is e.g. a directory of all shops of a given city and their opening hours. Even if you extract only the pharmacies/drugstores and it is a non-substantial amount of data, you will copy their work of collecting this information. Pieren ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Permissibility of incorporating parts of an address from a business' website
2013/4/25 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es The answer to this might be different if your jurisdiction doesn't apply the european database directive. But which is the relevant jurisdiction, the one the mapper is in, or the one the database is in (i.e. where you perform the actual action)? Cheers, Martin ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Permissibility of incorporating parts of an address from a business' website
2013/4/25 Pieren pier...@gmail.com I'm not sure it has to do with non-substantial amounts of data. But business websites publishing their own address or list of addresses is reallly intended to be shared and republished everywhere. I'd also see it like this, it is quite unlikely that they will sue your for helping their marketing department spread the word. On the other hand from a strictly legal point of view I have hardly seen a business website that didn't claim full copyright on all contents. cheers, Martin ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Permissibility of incorporating parts of an address from a business' website
On 25 April 2013 11:14, Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es wrote: The folks who drafted the EU DB directive most likely were not aware that in a near future, a person from a country A could put data about country B in a DB inside a computer in a country C... But in their world view there will only be one country in the future so this short-term problem goes away ;) Kevin ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
[OSM-legal-talk] Permissibility of incorporating parts of an address from a business' website
Hi, is it permissible to incorporate parts of an address (I would be especially interested in house numbers) from a business' (or other POI's) website, if said business is already mapped in OpenStreetMap. What I mean is for example if 'John Doe's Coffee-Shop' had a website that says 'we're located at 12 Main St.', would it be okay to add the address to the appropriate OpenStreetMap location? Would it make a difference if the business is a large chain and had more than one address (possible a lot more than one address) on its website? Thanks for any insights, Michael ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk