[OSM-legal-talk] Use of OSM Data in Apple Maps
As many of you may already be aware of, Apple is supposedly using ODbL data from OSM after their recent update, in their iOS App Maps, together with other data (some of which proprietary, some public domain) and appearently also together with older data from OSM (pre-license change). They still deny to name any license or to credit the copyright for the data from 2011/2012 (there are 2 credit items for osm), but they do recognize the copyright for the current data like this: © 2014 OpenStreetMap contributors, www.openstreetmap.org/copyright. They also still do not credit OSM at the same level of prominence than they do with TomTom (Data by TomTom and others). I wonder if this use is compatible with the ODbL, and how we can check this, given that they do not declare where they are using the data, if it is used in parallel or together with the other data sources, and obviously they do not release any details or software from their stack. cheers, Martin ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Use of OSM Data in Apple Maps
Am 24.11.2014 17:21, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: As many of you may already be aware of, Apple is supposedly using ODbL data from OSM after their recent update, in their iOS App Maps, together with other data (some of which proprietary, some public domain) and appearently also together with older data from OSM (pre-license change). Just as a hint: * there have been already some discussion wenn Apple started to use OSM data for the first time... * Also IIRC: there have ben discussion between the OSMF (or the board) with Apple, but I'm not sure about this. Maybe someone can remember better. Best regards, Michael. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Use of OSM Data in Apple Maps
2014-11-24 19:26 GMT+01:00 Michael Kugelmann michaelk_...@gmx.de: Am 24.11.2014 17:21, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: As many of you may already be aware of, Apple is supposedly using ODbL data from OSM after their recent update, in their iOS App Maps, together with other data (some of which proprietary, some public domain) and appearently also together with older data from OSM (pre-license change). Just as a hint: * there have been already some discussion wenn Apple started to use OSM data for the first time... yes, for reference, this was discussed in the license working group, then on the board and then back in the license working group. OSMF has indeed been talking to Apple about this, and the outcome as far as I remember was that OSMF was not concerned, because Apple were using cc-by-sa data of individual contributors by the time, i.e. a license intended for works but applied to data (by that time the license change was almost done, and it was clear, that the cc-license was unclear for data), and OSMF wasn't the rights holder (pre-CT, all rights were by the contributors). Also Apple had modified the attribution string by stating the vague date of the data (2011/2012), so parts of our concerns regarding the attribution were solved. The situation is now pretty different, in that they are using ODbL data, and they are recognizing the copyright for this data (see screenshot). cheers, Martin ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
