Re: [OSM-legal-talk] You may not sublicense your rights under these Terms to any person
Hi, Stefan Neufeind wrote: > Hmm, so actually we'd need some volunteers on a toilet trip to go there, > check the toilet details and map it from their own site-survey. I'm sure the .au community can provide interesting foodstuffs to further that objective! Bye Frederik ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] You may not sublicense your rights under these Terms to any person
On 02/11/2010 12:11 PM, James Livingston wrote: > On 11/02/2010, at 8:14 PM, Stefan Neufeind wrote: >> Agreed, trying to ask them would be a good thing. Has helped in some >> cases in the past where authorities (city government or the like) >> re-thought their license :-) > > The Australian Toilet Map data got discussed on talk-au back in December, and > from the discussion the problem is that the department's records of where > various data came from is a bit sketchy, so they aren't sure they can > actually put it under a better licence :( Hmm, so actually we'd need some volunteers on a toilet trip to go there, check the toilet details and map it from their own site-survey. Maybe that would even get sponsored by the government since the license of that data is clear afterwards? *heh* Regards, Stefan ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] You may not sublicense your rights under these Terms to any person
On 11/02/2010, at 8:14 PM, Stefan Neufeind wrote: > Agreed, trying to ask them would be a good thing. Has helped in some > cases in the past where authorities (city government or the like) > re-thought their license :-) The Australian Toilet Map data got discussed on talk-au back in December, and from the discussion the problem is that the department's records of where various data came from is a bit sketchy, so they aren't sure they can actually put it under a better licence :( ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] You may not sublicense your rights under these Terms to any person
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: > I have tried to write to them, > but all of the contact pages are 404 broken. > I guess the internet filter of AU is working well! > mike > a protest hacking into the websites http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/02/11/2816658.htm ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] You may not sublicense your rights under these Terms to any person
I have tried to write to them, but all of the contact pages are 404 broken. I guess the internet filter of AU is working well! mike On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Stefan Neufeind wrote: > On 02/11/2010 11:08 AM, Oliver Kuehn (skobbler) wrote: >> >> Hi Mike, >> >> you can use the data and display them on the OSM map but not import them >> into the OSM database itself. >> >> The license terms of the National Public Toilet Map dataset are not >> compliant with Create Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license, which says >> "You may distribute, publicly display, publicly perform, or publicly >> digitally perform the Work only under the terms of this License >> (Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0)". >> >> The showstopper here is viral element (heriditary). >> >> You should approach the authorities if they are willing to grant you a >> separate Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license for the data set. > > Agreed, trying to ask them would be a good thing. Has helped in some > cases in the past where authorities (city government or the like) > re-thought their license :-) > > By the way: Is there a list of data that can be used but maybe not (yet) > merged somewhere? Maybe that could also hold information about who tries > to approach an authority or in case we fail that data is still listed > somewhere to be "usable" for mashups etc. > > > Regards, > Stefan > > ___ > legal-talk mailing list > legal-talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk > ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] You may not sublicense your rights under these Terms to any person
On 02/11/2010 11:08 AM, Oliver Kuehn (skobbler) wrote: > > Hi Mike, > > you can use the data and display them on the OSM map but not import them > into the OSM database itself. > > The license terms of the National Public Toilet Map dataset are not > compliant with Create Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license, which says > "You may distribute, publicly display, publicly perform, or publicly > digitally perform the Work only under the terms of this License > (Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0)". > > The showstopper here is viral element (heriditary). > > You should approach the authorities if they are willing to grant you a > separate Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license for the data set. Agreed, trying to ask them would be a good thing. Has helped in some cases in the past where authorities (city government or the like) re-thought their license :-) By the way: Is there a list of data that can be used but maybe not (yet) merged somewhere? Maybe that could also hold information about who tries to approach an authority or in case we fail that data is still listed somewhere to be "usable" for mashups etc. Regards, Stefan ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] You may not sublicense your rights under these Terms to any person
Hi Mike, you can use the data and display them on the OSM map but not import them into the OSM database itself. The license terms of the National Public Toilet Map dataset are not compliant with Create Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license, which says "You may distribute, publicly display, publicly perform, or publicly digitally perform the Work only under the terms of this License (Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0)". The showstopper here is viral element (heriditary). You should approach the authorities if they are willing to grant you a separate Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license for the data set. Regards, Oliver -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/OSM-legal-talk-You-may-not-sublicense-your-rights-under-these-Terms-to-any-person-tp4553612p4553709.html Sent from the Legal Talk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
[OSM-legal-talk] You may not sublicense your rights under these Terms to any person
Here is the license database of public Toilets in AU: http://data.australia.gov.au/licence?id=610 As far as I can see this clause might be a problem : ""You may not sublicense your rights under these Terms to any person"" Any suggestions? can we import that? mike ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
