Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Adding UK post box information
Gervase Markham gerv-gm...@... writes: [http://www.dracos.co.uk/play/locating-postboxes/] Can the manually located postboxes, based on OSM data and a list of postbox street locations from the Royal Mail, be added to OSM? Yes. I have started work on a tool to sync these (code at http://github.com/epa/osm_postboxes). So far it just generates a report for manual fixing, but I will make it a bot fairly soon. I have entered the data for one postcode area, E10. However I would like to check again with the legal mailing list, because I'm planning to import not just the location of the postbox (which has been found by hand by contributors to the Dracos site, as discussed) and its 'ref' number, but also the postcode and address listed in the file. For example the following row from http://www.dracos.co.uk/play/locating-postboxes/export.php: Ref=E10 18 PC=E10 5AH Loc1=Capworth Street Loc2=(blank) Latitude=51.5729084 Longitude=-0.0116965 Last M-F=17:30 Last Sat=11:30 gets turned into the following in OSM: node with lat=51.5729084, lon=-0.0116965, and tags: amenity=post_box ref=E10 18 postal_code=E10 5AH addr:street=Capworth Street It appears to me that adding these two extra tags postal_code and addr:street (and sometimes addr:housenumber) from the data file should be okay, but I wanted to check with this list. If these are felt to be a step too far then I will just add the lat,lon and ref. -- Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Adding UK post box information
2009/7/14 Gervase Markham gerv-gm...@gerv.net: Royal Mail doesn't know the exact location of all its postboxes. If we find out for them, what are the chances they would sue us? It's flipping useful from their point of view. They could apply proper Travelling Salesman algorithms to them to optimise pick-up routes. you are cutting jobs ;-) Martin ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Adding UK post box information
On 13 Jul 2009, at 18:58, Gervase Markham wrote: On 08/07/09 12:13, Stephen Gower wrote: Actually, for what it's worth (probably very little) the very original file is provided as a PDF on the section of http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/location_of_every_post_box_that marked from Royal Mail Group and dated 13 June 2008. The only reason I mention this is that the first page has a copyright statement, and OSM community opinion at the time was that with the whiter-than-white, just-in-case-someone-tries-to-sue policy we have (had?) this info shouldn't be stored in OSM. But it's not this info that's being stored in OSM. The info provided is not sufficient to establish the location of the postbox (as I have found, having hunted, occasionally for quite some time, for all 44 of them in N14). What we are storing is the exact location. Royal Mail doesn't know the exact location of all its postboxes. If we find out for them, what are the chances they would sue us? It's flipping useful from their point of view. They could apply proper Travelling Salesman algorithms to them to optimise pick-up routes. http://abcnews.go.com/wnt/Story?id=3005890page=1 Gerv ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk Best Steve ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Adding UK post box information
On 08/07/09 12:13, Stephen Gower wrote: Actually, for what it's worth (probably very little) the very original file is provided as a PDF on the section of http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/location_of_every_post_box_that marked from Royal Mail Group and dated 13 June 2008. The only reason I mention this is that the first page has a copyright statement, and OSM community opinion at the time was that with the whiter-than-white, just-in-case-someone-tries-to-sue policy we have (had?) this info shouldn't be stored in OSM. But it's not this info that's being stored in OSM. The info provided is not sufficient to establish the location of the postbox (as I have found, having hunted, occasionally for quite some time, for all 44 of them in N14). What we are storing is the exact location. Royal Mail doesn't know the exact location of all its postboxes. If we find out for them, what are the chances they would sue us? It's flipping useful from their point of view. They could apply proper Travelling Salesman algorithms to them to optimise pick-up routes. Gerv ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Adding UK post box information
On 01/07/09 11:18, Ed Avis wrote: Can the manually located postboxes, based on OSM data and a list of postbox street locations from the Royal Mail, be added to OSM? Yes. But have you checked with Matthew Somerville, the author of that tool? AIUI it's already integrated with OSM. I did the whole of N14, and added it to OSM, and it showed up in the tool as done. (But perhaps he hasn't yet implemented integration in the other direction...) Gerv ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
