[L-I] Moderator's Note.
I hate it when this happens. I was getting all settled in without this sort of nonsense. I'm removing Red Rebel. Take Care, James. I hope you get over this habit soon. None of it can be tolerated here. I look into the future and await your valuable forwards on the other lists. Just not here. Bye! Macdonald Stainsby * Red-Rebel: You're not a trotskyist by any chance are you? Sounds like their line. While Red Partisans were waging a war to the death against fascist troops the trotskyists were calling for 'fraternisation' printing newspapers for your "ordinary working-class German Soldiers" to read while they slaughtered and raped their way accross the USSR. At the same time the trotskyites called on the Red Army to turn it's guns againsty the Communist Party! --- Macdonald Stainsby Rad-Green List: Radical anti-capitalist environmental discussion. http://lists.wwpublish.com/mailman/listinfo/rad-green Leninist-International: Building bridges in the tradition of V.I. Lenin. http://lists.wwpublish.com/mailman/listinfo/leninist-international In the contradiction lies the hope. --Bertholt Brecht ___ Leninist-International mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.wwpublish.com/mailman/listinfo/leninist-international
Re: [L-I] Moderator's Note: re: Turkey. DHKC - Jones.y
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 05:58:56PM -0700, Macdonald Stainsby wrote: This kind of name calling will stop NOW, or your participation in the list If this guy stays, count me out ___ Leninist-International mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.wwpublish.com/mailman/listinfo/leninist-international
[L-I] Moderator's Note: re: Turkey. DHKC - Jones.
This kind of name calling will stop NOW, or your participation in the list will instead. No further warnings will be given. Hopefully Anton will simply ignore this attack. Can we please stick to issues and not ad-hominem? Macdonald Stainsby, co-moderator - Original Message - From: "Tabe Kooistra" [EMAIL PROTECTED] This was about your point that Turkish left are blabla bla? On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 07:51:54PM +0200, A.Wosni wrote: Thank you "comrade" for this answer. I think it makes my point perfectly clear for anyone at least familiar with the legacy of Marxism. A.H. Adolf Hitler? ___ Leninist-International mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.wwpublish.com/mailman/listinfo/leninist-international
[L-I] Moderator's note
En relación a RE: [L-I] Cuba, el 28 Aug 00, a las 15:40, Mark Jones dijo: Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky dijo: In the end, the result of all this is either deserved and navel- gazing loneliness for the Left, or tremendous defeats (such as in Bolivia, 1972) for the masses. Anton, I am seriously afraid that you do not have the slightest idea of what does the word "dialectic" mean. Oh, come on. He doesn't even know what 'navel' means. The rest of us know it's an orange. For Wonsi it's just a black hole. Mark, this kind of flaming is not allowed on L-I. You know this very well. First and last public warning. Period. Néstor Gorojovsky Co-moderador Lista Leninist-International [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Leninist-International mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.wwpublish.com/mailman/listinfo/leninist-international
Re: [L-I] Moderator's note
thank you, nestor. some of us are looking for information - not personal diatribes. norm Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky wrote: En relación a RE: [L-I] Cuba, el 28 Aug 00, a las 15:40, Mark Jones dijo: Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky dijo: In the end, the result of all this is either deserved and navel- gazing loneliness for the Left, or tremendous defeats (such as in Bolivia, 1972) for the masses. Anton, I am seriously afraid that you do not have the slightest idea of what does the word "dialectic" mean. Oh, come on. He doesn't even know what 'navel' means. The rest of us know it's an orange. For Wonsi it's just a black hole. Mark, this kind of flaming is not allowed on L-I. You know this very well. First and last public warning. Period. Néstor Gorojovsky Co-moderador Lista Leninist-International [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Leninist-International mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.wwpublish.com/mailman/listinfo/leninist-international ___ Leninist-International mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.wwpublish.com/mailman/listinfo/leninist-international
RE: [L-I] Moderator's note on the Kossovo debate
I asked people on the Crashlist to quit talking about Yugo a little while back, because I couldn't find a way to anchor this debate to the Crashlist topic, but if Jared is not welcome on L-I (I'm sure he is, really) he is more than welcome on the Crashlist; and in fact, Yugo matters terribly, and has global significance in all kinds of ways. I'd be glad to see some debate about the geopolitics of Nato, its strategic reach in the Balkans, and the very-related question of energy politics. I hope this doesn't look like I'm shilling for the crashlist; I think L-I has a fantastically important role to play, not least in the clarification of theory. But somehow we haven't quite found the ways of *centralising* or *focussing* debate about the Balkans/Yugoslavia; we need to do more stuff on Nato + geopolitics. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 August 2000 23:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [L-I] Moderator's note on the Kossovo debate Dear friends, This argument about Kosovo isnot in a vacuum, in life or on this list. There was a long back and forth argument between me and Schneider readable on the LI archives. In it, I presented much evidcence, and some useful reference material. Besides the LI archives, where one can read the extensive debate between me and Schneider, which I won'd duplicate, here is some original material for those who want to learn more about the situation: On whether Serbia has encouraged nationalist divisions or seen them as a danger, people should study Milosevich's speech in Kosovo field at http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/jared/milosaid.html and read the interview with Tika Jankovich and Petar Makara., 'A nightmare with the best intentions' about what it was like being a Serb in the 70s and 80s, at http://www.emperors-clothes.com/interviews/tika.htm The interview and Milosevic's speech together give some idea of what many Serbs are thinking. On the ties between the US and the KLA, see for instance: 'The Cat is Out of the Bag" at http://emperors-clothes.com/news/ciaaided.htm (The above deals partly with William Walker, whose jobs was setting up liaison with the KLA during the OSCE verification mission to Kosovo in fall '98. On William Walker's death squad credentials see 'Meet Mr. Massacre' at http://www.emperors-clothes.com/analysis/meetmr.htm On the history and present practice of fascism in Kosovo, see for instance: History: George Thompson's 'The roots of Kosovo fascism' at http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/thompson/rootsof.htm On the KLA as fascist: : 1) 'Driven from Kosovo: Jewish Leader Blames NATO - Interview With Cedda Prlincevic' at http://www.emperors-clothes.com/interviews/prlincevic.htm 2) "Save the Families - Women of Orahovac Speak" at http://www.emperors-clothes.com/misc/savethe.htm 3) "UN appoints alleged war criminal in Kosovo" by Michel Chossudovsky at http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/chuss/unandthe.htm Follow the suggested links at the end of each article. All together, there must be over a hundred articles on Emperors Clothes - www.tenc.net -- that deal with what has happened since NATO took over Kosovo. I will now post three articles -- two that deal with life in Kosovo today and one interview with a magnificent Albanian. Best regards, Jared Israel ___ Leninist-International mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.wwpublish.com/mailman/listinfo/leninist-international ___ Leninist-International mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.wwpublish.com/mailman/listinfo/leninist-international
