Re: Problem installing Leo under 18.04

2019-02-05 Thread Matt Wilkie


> I am having a problem with installing Leo under Ubuntu 18.04 using the 
>> debian instructions at  
>> http://leoeditor.com/installing.html#installing-from-a-debian-package 
>> 
>>
>
Unfortunately the debian packaging is no longer maintained and this install 
method flat out doesn't work. The install instructions had that section 
removed a couple weeks ago 
(https://github.com/leo-editor/leo-editor/issues/1063). When I visit 
http://leoeditor.com/installing.html today I don't see debian mentioned. Do 
you? (I'm wondering if there's a page cache issue).

Matt

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Re: Problem installing Leo under 18.04

2019-02-05 Thread John Kane


On Sunday, January 20, 2019 at 12:19:28 PM UTC-5, John Kane wrote:
>
> I am having a problem with installing Leo under Ubuntu 18.04 using the 
> debian instructions at  
> http://leoeditor.com/installing.html#installing-from-a-debian-package
>
> I update my sources.list using 
>
> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/villemvainio/ppa/ubuntu bionic beaver
>
> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/villemvainio/ppa/ubuntu bionic beaver
>
>
>
> I replaced "jaunty main" with "bionic beaver" as that is the the 18.04 name.
>
>
> Result 
>
> john@john-T510:~$ sudo apt-get install leo
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree   
> Reading state information... Done
> E: Unable to locate package leo
> john@john-T510:~$ 
>
>
> Presumably I have the repository wrong but I am not exactly a strong Linux 
> user so I could be doing something stupid 
>
>
> Or my update may be failing to update the sources.list as I am getting the 
> error message 
>
>
>  GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net/villemvainio/ppa/ubuntu jaunty Release: 
> The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not 
> available: NO_PUBKEY 0ECABD2A816DE222
> E: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/villemvainio/ppa/ubuntu jaunty 
> Release' is not signed.
>
>
> Note I went back to ubuntu jaunty just to see what would happen. 
>
>
> Can anyone suggests some possible solutions?
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Email importer for Leo - crazy idea or ...?

2019-02-05 Thread Chris George
This is strictly a mock-up.

Three information views: Mailbox, Meta, Message mapped onto node, child
node and body.

There are a bunch of options for python libraries to deal with imap
mailboxes. The mbox format seems relatively well supported as far as
import/export to and from other applications goes.

Mail handling can be done via python or standard tools if on linux.

The advantages are huge. Clones of emails can be easily attached to
wherever they need to be attached.

Most productivity applications use a combination of tasks, email, and a
calendar. Both email and a calendar are easy fits for Leo's hierarchical
trees and their utility goes way up with the use of
clones/backlinks/scripting etc. etc.

As far as a feature goes, well, Matt's quote above sums it up nicely.

Chris


[image: Screenshot_20190205_150205.png]


On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:18 PM Matt Wilkie  wrote:

>
> I began to wonder if having  my email archive in leo would be a good thing
>> - one email per node.
>>
>
> HAHHAHAHA H heehee ho hoh! (A good belly laugh, the recognition of a
> truth, not a mean derisive laugh.)
>
> *Every program attempts to expand until it can read mail.*
>
> *Those programs which cannot so expand are replaced by ones which can.*
>
>
> http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/Z/Zawinskis-Law.html
>
> https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/150254/what-does-jamie-zawinskis-law-mean
>
> matt
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Re: Email importer for Leo - crazy idea or ...?

2019-02-05 Thread Matt Wilkie


> I began to wonder if having  my email archive in leo would be a good thing 
> - one email per node. 
>

HAHHAHAHA H heehee ho hoh! (A good belly laugh, the recognition of a 
truth, not a mean derisive laugh.)

*Every program attempts to expand until it can read mail.*

*Those programs which cannot so expand are replaced by ones which can.*


http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/Z/Zawinskis-Law.html
https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/150254/what-does-jamie-zawinskis-law-mean

matt

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Re: Problem installing Leo under 18.04

2019-02-05 Thread Matt Wilkie

>
> When I run the instructions you provided (above) everthing goes smoothly 
> untitl I run
>
>  "git checkout devel" 
>
> when I get the error
>
> jrkrideau@john-T510:~/leo-editor$ git checkout devel
> error: pathspec 'devel' did not match any file(s) known to git.
> jrkrideau@john-T510:~/leo-editor$
>

Ummm. Maybe?

Try *git fetch* so that your local repository gets all the new info from 
github. It just takes the information about new branches and no actual 
code. After that the *git checkout* should work fine.

-- https://stackoverflow.com/a/7334027/14420

matt

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Re: Color issues in new install make outline illegible

2019-02-05 Thread Matt Wilkie


> I am answering my original post.  A workaround for me was to grab leo from 
> github and run from master.  For whatever reason, that version works 
> properly.  The still installed pip version continues to misbehave, no idea 
> what is going on.  Since my purpose was simply to have a working version of 
> leo, I am content to leave it at that.
>

Thanks for the follow up. There are some files left out from a `pip 
install` from pypi.org, 
https://github.com/leo-editor/leo-editor/issues/603. This is normally not 
an issue for end users as the left out files are (supposed to be) 
interesting only for developers. If anyone can identify files left out that 
aren't in that issue please feel free to open a new one. 

Matt

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Re: Email importer for Leo - crazy idea or ...?

2019-02-05 Thread Israel Hands
I agree with you Josef - I also wondered about the metadata fields and I 
wondered about nodes having sub headings but that would be a major change. 
So maybe all the metadata is in the header in a formatted string or maybe 
saved in tags?

IH

On Tuesday, 5 February 2019 19:58:06 UTC, Josef wrote:
>
> I was thinking about this too, but then had second thoughts about it. A 
> typical e-mail client has 3 windows: one is the tree of mailboxes, which 
> would easily map to the Leo tree. Another is the message text, which would 
> map to the node body. There is at least one more window in the mail client: 
> a table with subject, date, etc, one line for each message. This may be the 
> tricky part. Leo could probably deal well with the attachments.
>
> For searching, Thunderbird is doing a fine job. The main advantage would 
> be to deal with emails just like with other files. So far all the email 
> data lives in a separate world. This has become a common design strategy 
> though: much data is bound to the program producing it, although it would 
> be much nicer to keep data on a per project or topic basis together, not on 
> a per-tool basis.
>
> Josef
>

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Re: Email importer for Leo - crazy idea or ...?

2019-02-05 Thread Josef
I was thinking about this too, but then had second thoughts about it. A 
typical e-mail client has 3 windows: one is the tree of mailboxes, which 
would easily map to the Leo tree. Another is the message text, which would 
map to the node body. There is at least one more window in the mail client: 
a table with subject, date, etc, one line for each message. This may be the 
tricky part. Leo could probably deal well with the attachments.

For searching, Thunderbird is doing a fine job. The main advantage would be 
to deal with emails just like with other files. So far all the email data 
lives in a separate world. This has become a common design strategy though: 
much data is bound to the program producing it, although it would be much 
nicer to keep data on a per project or topic basis together, not on a 
per-tool basis.

Josef

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Re: Get started with Org mode without Emacs

2019-02-05 Thread Israel Hands
Hi Terry,

Great spot - as a lover of Org's Agenda and scheduling functions I'm 
excited that they don't have to live in Emacs.  Does this point to a way of 
including those features in Leo?
Good to see you round here btw!

IH



On Tuesday, 5 February 2019 13:44:09 UTC, Terry Brown wrote:
>
> https://opensource.com/article/19/1/productivity-tool-org-mode?utm_medium 
>
> Cheers -Terry 
>

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Get started with Org mode without Emacs

2019-02-05 Thread Terry Brown
https://opensource.com/article/19/1/productivity-tool-org-mode?utm_medium

Cheers -Terry

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