Re: Stack Overflow Traffic Slumps As Devs Turn to ChatGTP
On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 2:51 PM Paul S. Wilson wrote: > Thought this might be of wide interest. > Thanks for this Paul. I still prefer google for most of my reference needs. I seem to be in a minority. Edward -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/leo-editor/CAMF8tS1jdSz5xWMxosKn54s8iHY6FHiuJ30agXv6%2BFxZYYRZ_g%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: New User's Guide To Leo
Thomas writes: I've been thinking that there should be a book on Leo. I don't think I've got another book left in me, but I'm not completely happy with the existing docs because I don't think they really match what a new user faces when trying to fire up Leo and use it the first few times. I'm a new Leo user -- I've been programming in Python for 5+ years, but somehow only recently managed to discover it -- and think something like this would be very helpful. The tutorials, documentation, and Edward's YouTube videos are great. But what I think might be really useful are some step-by-step examples of common user stories. For example: * I'm a developer working on a small-ish Python project that I collaborate on with other people. How can I effectively use Leo to start editing my existing code base? How should I go about breaking up parts of the existing code into an outline (without actually breaking things)? * I'm a technical writer working on a publication. How can I start writing my outline in Leo, and then save/export it to be shared with others in a plain text format (ReST, Markdown, etc.)? * I manage a small website that's mostly just HTML and CSS. How can I use Leo's outlining framework to keep things more manageable and reduce duplication? Those are just some ideas. And I apologize in advance if these things *should* be obvious to a newcomer. I've climbed a few text editor hills (vim, Emacs, acme, etc.) and I really like what I've seen of Leo, but I do find myself puzzling at what seem like basic questions. Thanks all. Ben -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/leo-editor/ae892918-9a16-4427-a019-b2e7e318835an%40googlegroups.com.
Re: New User's Guide To Leo
No apologies needed. Leo is terrific, but it does have quite a learning curve. In the end, I think many people end up with their own personalized workflows, most likely with some customized scripts to help. I like your suggestions of user scenarios walkthroughs, and I think they don't really belong is the New User's Guide but in a collection of such walkthroughs. In the draft outline of the Guide, I do have a subtree of "How Do I ..." topics, but they won't be to the depth you are talking about. Also, probably no one person has the knowledge to handle all common scenarios. If you have one or two of these kind of user scenarios of your own that you'd like suggestions for, try airing them here and maybe we can be of some help (and then the results can be collected into a scenario collection). Leo is especially good for Sphinx documents written in ReST, BTW. I can help with that one. And for the code base scenario, Leo manages its own code base, which is in the LeoPyRef.leo outline (available from the *File* menu), and you can look at that to get ideas. It's on GitHub, so it's clonable. I myself have brought an existing Python project into Leo and put it on GitHub, so I can speak to that, if you are interested in doing that. On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 11:17:52 AM UTC-4 Ben Hancock wrote: > Thomas writes: > > I've been thinking that there should be a book on Leo. I don't think I've > got another book left in me, but I'm not completely happy with the existing > docs because I don't think they really match what a new user faces when > trying to fire up Leo and use it the first few times. > > > I'm a new Leo user -- I've been programming in Python for 5+ years, but > somehow only recently managed to discover it -- and think something like > this would be very helpful. The tutorials, documentation, and Edward's > YouTube videos are great. But what I think might be really useful are some > step-by-step examples of common user stories. > > For example: > > * I'm a developer working on a small-ish Python project that I collaborate > on with other people. How can I effectively use Leo to start editing my > existing code base? How should I go about breaking up parts of the existing > code into an outline (without actually breaking things)? > > * I'm a technical writer working on a publication. How can I start writing > my outline in Leo, and then save/export it to be shared with others in a > plain text format (ReST, Markdown, etc.)? > > * I manage a small website that's mostly just HTML and CSS. How can I use > Leo's outlining framework to keep things more manageable and reduce > duplication? > > Those are just some ideas. And I apologize in advance if these things > *should* be obvious to a newcomer. I've climbed a few text editor hills > (vim, Emacs, acme, etc.) and I really like what I've seen of Leo, but I do > find myself puzzling at what seem like basic questions. > > Thanks all. > > Ben > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/leo-editor/b6fc5193-8b80-407f-a2e5-1fccf0d81463n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: Stack Overflow Traffic Slumps As Devs Turn to ChatGTP
Closer to home, maybe: explain how to create Sphinx documents with the Leo-editor but don't explain what Leo, Sphinx, or ReStructured text are To create Sphinx documents with the Leo editor, follow these steps: 1. Install Sphinx: Use a package manager like pip to install Sphinx on your system. 2. Create a new Leo outline: Open the Leo editor and create a new outline file with a .leo extension. 3. Configure Sphinx: Add a section at the top of the outline file to specify Sphinx configuration. Begin with @settings and include @language rst to set the language as reStructuredText. 4. Add document content: Below the configuration section, create nodes or sections to represent the document content. Use Leo's outlining features to structure the content hierarchically. 5. Use reStructuredText markup: Within each node, write the content using reStructuredText markup. This markup language offers various formatting options for headings, bullet points, code blocks, tables, etc. 6. Generate Sphinx documentation: Save the Leo outline file. 7. Generate the Sphinx documentation: Open the command prompt or terminal, navigate to the directory where the Leo outline file is saved, and run sphinx-build -b html sourcedir outputdir. Replace sourcedir with the path to the directory containing the Leo outline file, and outputdir with the path to the directory where the Sphinx documentation should be generated. 8. View the generated documentation: After the documentation is generated, open the HTML files in a web browser to view the Sphinx documentation. Start with the index.html file or any other entry point file generated by Sphinx. By following these steps, you can create and organize Sphinx documents using the Leo editor's outlining capabilities, and then generate the final documentation using Sphinx. On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 11:13:40 AM UTC-4 Edward K. Ream wrote: > On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 2:51 PM Paul S. Wilson wrote: > >> Thought this might be of wide interest. >> > > Thanks for this Paul. > > I still prefer google for most of my reference needs. I seem to be in a > minority. > > Edward > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/leo-editor/a6d73759-f0b9-4280-b6c2-c7ee2155fa1fn%40googlegroups.com.
Re: Impressive ChatGPT responses
I thought this might be a good test. ChatGPT came up with something I
probably would not have thought of (don't know if it would actually work,
though!):
write a python script to copy the line containing the cursor in the
Leo-editor, but do not explain what the leo-editor is
ChatGPT
Certainly! Here's a Python script that copies the line containing the
cursor in any text editor, including the Leo editor:
import pyautogui
import pyperclip
def copy_line_with_cursor():
# Get the current cursor position
current_position = pyautogui.position()
# Move the cursor to the beginning of the line and select the line
pyautogui.hotkey('home')
pyautogui.hotkey('shift', 'end')
# Copy the selected line to the clipboard
pyautogui.hotkey('ctrl', 'c')
# Restore the original cursor position
pyautogui.moveTo(current_position)
# Get the copied line from the clipboard
copied_line = pyperclip.paste()
# Print the copied line
print(f"Copied line: {copied_line}")
# Call the function to copy the line with the cursor
copy_line_with_cursor()
Make sure you have the pyautogui and pyperclip modules installed in your
Python environment. You can install them using pip:
Copy code
pip install pyautogui pyperclip
When you run the script, it will move the cursor to the beginning of the
line, select the entire line, copy it to the clipboard, and restore the
original cursor position. Finally, it will print the copied line.
On Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 11:44:20 PM UTC-4 Félix wrote:
> Imagine for a second, if you will, being a teacher, and being able to
> transliterate the text of a lesson, or whole textbook into something
> written as if the author was some personal super-hero, or mythic legendary
> being, that the child is specifically currently obsessed with...
>
> Even more, imagine now that all 27 students of your class have a different
> character they're obsessed with, no problem, just run the query with a list
> of those 27 character names that those kids will gladly give in an instant!
> A couple year's work of professional writers done in seconds, now available
> for being printed on the laser copier and distributed.
>
> (i know chatgpt/gpt 3.5 cant do this given a whole long text , but gpt4
> can)
>
> Anyways, i was just curious to read more experiences/reactions from
> leonistas about this new AI science that is blooming right now ! :)
>
> On Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 11:36:09 PM UTC-4 Félix wrote:
>
>> Maybe off-topic, (and sorry in advance if you've seen those kinds of
>> interactions with chatGPT before) but while I'm finishing translating Leo
>> to typescript, I now use chatGPT to help move along faster. (while
>> verifying his answers carefully 'cause he sometimes hallucinates a little
>> something here and there)
>>
>> I sometimes do a little extra interaction with it just for fun, mostly
>> because i'm still curious about that new wonder of the world that is AI can
>> do!
>>
>> (like thanking him, and treating him like a person, to see how it will
>> react and answer, or sometimes just acting like it's the super intelligence
>> they have on the holodeck in startrek, i.e. asking him to role-play or act
>> as some historical figure... )
>>
>> So i thought you'd find it interesting to see this screenshot (also note
>> the choice of strings it took to fill in the arrays in the example code
>> below it's answer too!)
>>
>> Félix
>> [image: screenshot-gpt.png]
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 5:09:03 PM UTC-4 tbp1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> An interesting post on the subject, including "alignment": Large
>>> language model alignment “bias” and cultural consensus theory
>>> .
>
> *But*: Googlers say Bard AI is “worse than useless,” ethics concerns
> were ignored
>
Re: Impressive ChatGPT responses
And here's one where it's clear the bot is just waving its hands rapidly:
write a short user's guide about how to manage a web site with the
leo-editor, and do not explain what the leo-editor or a web site are
Sure! Here's a short user's guide on managing a website with the Leo editor:
1.
Install Leo Editor: Begin by installing the Leo editor on your computer.
Follow the installation instructions specific to your operating system.
2.
Create a Project Outline: Launch the Leo editor and create a new project
outline. The outline will serve as a hierarchical structure to organize
your website's files and content.
3.
Set up the Directory Structure: Within the project outline, create
directories to represent different sections or components of your website,
such as "Home," "About," "Services," and so on. Use Leo's outlining
features to create a nested structure if needed.
4.
Create HTML Files: Within each directory, create HTML files using Leo's
file creation functionality. Give each file a descriptive name that
reflects its purpose or content.
5.
Write HTML Content: Open the HTML files and write the desired content
using HTML markup. You can use Leo's outlining capabilities to structure
and organize the content hierarchically.
6.
Add CSS and JavaScript: If your website requires styling or
interactivity, create separate CSS and JavaScript files within the
appropriate directories. Link these files to your HTML files using
appropriate HTML tags.
7.
Preview and Test: Use the Leo editor's built-in preview functionality to
view your website locally. Open an HTML file, select the preview option,
and check the rendered output in the integrated web browser.
8.
Edit and Update: Make changes to the HTML, CSS, and JavaScript files as
needed to refine your website's design and functionality. Use Leo's
features for navigation, searching, and editing to manage and update your
site effectively.
9.
Publish Your Website: Once you are satisfied with the website's content
and design, use your preferred web hosting service or server to publish
your website. Upload the HTML, CSS, JavaScript, and other necessary files
to the appropriate directories on your web server.
10.
Maintenance and Updates: As your website evolves, use the Leo editor to
manage updates and maintain the site's structure. Add new pages, modify
existing content, and ensure your website remains up-to-date.
Remember to refer to the Leo editor's documentation and resources for
detailed information on its features and functionalities. Additionally,
consult web development resources to learn more about HTML, CSS, and
JavaScript to enhance your website's design and functionality.
On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 2:16:50 PM UTC-4 Thomas Passin wrote:
> I thought this might be a good test. ChatGPT came up with something I
> probably would not have thought of (don't know if it would actually work,
> though!):
>
> write a python script to copy the line containing the cursor in the
> Leo-editor, but do not explain what the leo-editor is
>
> ChatGPT
> Certainly! Here's a Python script that copies the line containing the
> cursor in any text editor, including the Leo editor:
>
> import pyautogui
> import pyperclip
>
> def copy_line_with_cursor():
> # Get the current cursor position
> current_position = pyautogui.position()
>
> # Move the cursor to the beginning of the line and select the line
> pyautogui.hotkey('home')
> pyautogui.hotkey('shift', 'end')
>
> # Copy the selected line to the clipboard
> pyautogui.hotkey('ctrl', 'c')
>
> # Restore the original cursor position
> pyautogui.moveTo(current_position)
>
> # Get the copied line from the clipboard
> copied_line = pyperclip.paste()
>
> # Print the copied line
> print(f"Copied line: {copied_line}")
>
> # Call the function to copy the line with the cursor
> copy_line_with_cursor()
>
> Make sure you have the pyautogui and pyperclip modules installed in your
> Python environment. You can install them using pip:
>
> Copy code
>
> pip install pyautogui pyperclip
>
> When you run the script, it will move the cursor to the beginning of the
> line, select the entire line, copy it to the clipboard, and restore the
> original cursor position. Finally, it will print the copied line.
> On Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 11:44:20 PM UTC-4 Félix wrote:
>
>> Imagine for a second, if you will, being a teacher, and being able to
>> transliterate the text of a lesson, or whole textbook into something
>> written as if the author was some personal super-hero, or mythic legendary
>> being, that the child is specifically currently obsessed with...
>>
>> Even more, imagine now that all 27 students of your class have a
>> different character they're obsessed with, no problem, just ru
Re: Impressive ChatGPT responses
Hmm, that formatting came out weird. I'll see if I can reformat it better - the above was directly copy-pasted from the browser. In the meantime, here's another interesting one: explain briefly what advantages the leo-editor has over vs-code The Leo editor and Visual Studio Code (VS Code) are both powerful text editors, but they have different features and advantages. Here are some advantages of the Leo editor over VS Code: 1. Outlining Capabilities: The Leo editor is primarily designed as an outlining editor, offering robust outlining features that allow you to organize and manage hierarchical structures effectively. It provides a tree-based outline view that makes it easy to navigate and manipulate large projects or complex documents. 2. Hierarchical Editing: Leo supports hierarchical editing, allowing you to collapse or expand sections of your document, making it convenient to focus on specific parts while keeping the rest of the document organized. This feature is particularly useful when working with long documents or complex codebases. 3. Scripting and Extensibility: The Leo editor is highly scriptable and extensible. It provides a powerful plugin system that allows users to customize and extend its functionality to suit their specific needs. You can write scripts in Python to automate tasks, create custom commands, and add new features to the editor. 4. Project Management: Leo provides project management features that allow you to organize and manage multiple files as part of a project. It offers features like project outlines, file linking, and workspace management, which can be beneficial when working on large-scale projects or maintaining multiple related files. 5. Focus on Content Creation: Leo focuses on providing an environment optimized for content creation, including writing, outlining, and managing structured documents. It offers features like cloning, hoisting, and folding, which are specifically designed to enhance productivity when working with large texts or complex structures. It's important to note that the choice between the Leo editor and VS Code ultimately depends on your specific needs and preferences. VS Code is a versatile code editor with a vast ecosystem of extensions and a strong focus on code editing and development workflows. On the other hand, the Leo editor shines when it comes to outlining, hierarchical editing, and content organization. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/leo-editor/b672e2f9-4e97-4045-bfc9-cacbd2e0856cn%40googlegroups.com.
Re: Impressive ChatGPT responses
Rats! I'll try to reformat that one, too. On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 2:32:57 PM UTC-4 Thomas Passin wrote: > Hmm, that formatting came out weird. I'll see if I can reformat it better > - the above was directly copy-pasted from the browser. In the meantime, > here's another interesting one: > > explain briefly what advantages the leo-editor has over vs-code > > The Leo editor and Visual Studio Code (VS Code) are both powerful text > editors, but they have different features and advantages. Here are some > advantages of the Leo editor over VS Code: > >1. > >Outlining Capabilities: The Leo editor is primarily designed as an >outlining editor, offering robust outlining features that allow you to >organize and manage hierarchical structures effectively. It provides a >tree-based outline view that makes it easy to navigate and manipulate > large >projects or complex documents. >2. > >Hierarchical Editing: Leo supports hierarchical editing, allowing you >to collapse or expand sections of your document, making it convenient to >focus on specific parts while keeping the rest of the document organized. >This feature is particularly useful when working with long documents or >complex codebases. >3. > >Scripting and Extensibility: The Leo editor is highly scriptable and >extensible. It provides a powerful plugin system that allows users to >customize and extend its functionality to suit their specific needs. You >can write scripts in Python to automate tasks, create custom commands, and >add new features to the editor. >4. > >Project Management: Leo provides project management features that >allow you to organize and manage multiple files as part of a project. It >offers features like project outlines, file linking, and workspace >management, which can be beneficial when working on large-scale projects > or >maintaining multiple related files. >5. > >Focus on Content Creation: Leo focuses on providing an environment >optimized for content creation, including writing, outlining, and managing >structured documents. It offers features like cloning, hoisting, and >folding, which are specifically designed to enhance productivity when >working with large texts or complex structures. > > It's important to note that the choice between the Leo editor and VS Code > ultimately depends on your specific needs and preferences. VS Code is a > versatile code editor with a vast ecosystem of extensions and a strong > focus on code editing and development workflows. On the other hand, the Leo > editor shines when it comes to outlining, hierarchical editing, and content > organization. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/leo-editor/69a03d63-aef9-4aa0-9cf6-3280489535abn%40googlegroups.com.
Re: Impressive ChatGPT responses
OK, this should be more readable: explain briefly what advantages the leo-editor has over vs-code ChatGPT The Leo editor and Visual Studio Code (VS Code) are both powerful text editors, but they have different features and advantages. Here are some advantages of the Leo editor over VS Code: Outlining Capabilities: The Leo editor is primarily designed as an outlining editor, offering robust outlining features that allow you to organize and manage hierarchical structures effectively. It provides a tree-based outline view that makes it easy to navigate and manipulate large projects or complex documents. Hierarchical Editing: Leo supports hierarchical editing, allowing you to collapse or expand sections of your document, making it convenient to focus on specific parts while keeping the rest of the document organized. This feature is particularly useful when working with long documents or complex codebases. Scripting and Extensibility: The Leo editor is highly scriptable and extensible. It provides a powerful plugin system that allows users to customize and extend its functionality to suit their specific needs. You can write scripts in Python to automate tasks, create custom commands, and add new features to the editor. Project Management: Leo provides project management features that allow you to organize and manage multiple files as part of a project. It offers features like project outlines, file linking, and workspace management, which can be beneficial when working on large-scale projects or maintaining multiple related files. Focus on Content Creation: Leo focuses on providing an environment optimized for content creation, including writing, outlining, and managing structured documents. It offers features like cloning, hoisting, and folding, which are specifically designed to enhance productivity when working with large texts or complex structures. It's important to note that the choice between the Leo editor and VS Code ultimately depends on your specific needs and preferences. VS Code is a versatile code editor with a vast ecosystem of extensions and a strong focus on code editing and development workflows. On the other hand, the Leo editor shines when it comes to outlining, hierarchical editing, and content organization. On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 2:33:27 PM UTC-4 Thomas Passin wrote: > Rats! I'll try to reformat that one, too. > > On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 2:32:57 PM UTC-4 Thomas Passin wrote: > >> Hmm, that formatting came out weird. I'll see if I can reformat it >> better - the above was directly copy-pasted from the browser. In the >> meantime, here's another interesting one: >> >> explain briefly what advantages the leo-editor has over vs-code >> >> The Leo editor and Visual Studio Code (VS Code) are both powerful text >> editors, but they have different features and advantages. Here are some >> advantages of the Leo editor over VS Code: >> >>1. >> >>Outlining Capabilities: The Leo editor is primarily designed as an >>outlining editor, offering robust outlining features that allow you to >>organize and manage hierarchical structures effectively. It provides a >>tree-based outline view that makes it easy to navigate and manipulate >> large >>projects or complex documents. >>2. >> >>Hierarchical Editing: Leo supports hierarchical editing, allowing you >>to collapse or expand sections of your document, making it convenient to >>focus on specific parts while keeping the rest of the document organized. >>This feature is particularly useful when working with long documents or >>complex codebases. >>3. >> >>Scripting and Extensibility: The Leo editor is highly scriptable and >>extensible. It provides a powerful plugin system that allows users to >>customize and extend its functionality to suit their specific needs. You >>can write scripts in Python to automate tasks, create custom commands, >> and >>add new features to the editor. >>4. >> >>Project Management: Leo provides project management features that >>allow you to organize and manage multiple files as part of a project. It >>offers features like project outlines, file linking, and workspace >>management, which can be beneficial when working on large-scale projects >> or >>maintaining multiple related files. >>5. >> >>Focus on Content Creation: Leo focuses on providing an environment >>optimized for content creation, including writing, outlining, and >> managing >>structured documents. It offers features like cloning, hoisting, and >>folding, which are specifically designed to enhance productivity when >>working with large texts or complex structures. >> >> It's important to note that the choice between the Leo editor and VS Code >> ultimately depends on your specific needs and preferences. VS Code is a >> versatile code editor w
Re: Impressive ChatGPT responses
And here is the earlier transcript, reformated - the chatbot's doing a lot of hand-waving! write a short user's guide about how to manage a web site with the leo-editor, and do not explain what the leo-editor or a web site are ChatGPT Sure! Here's a short user's guide on managing a website with the Leo editor: Install Leo Editor: Begin by installing the Leo editor on your computer. Follow the installation instructions specific to your operating system. Create a Project Outline: Launch the Leo editor and create a new project outline. The outline will serve as a hierarchical structure to organize your website's files and content. Set up the Directory Structure: Within the project outline, create directories to represent different sections or components of your website, such as "Home," "About," "Services," and so on. Use Leo's outlining features to create a nested structure if needed. Create HTML Files: Within each directory, create HTML files using Leo's file creation functionality. Give each file a descriptive name that reflects its purpose or content. Write HTML Content: Open the HTML files and write the desired content using HTML markup. You can use Leo's outlining capabilities to structure and organize the content hierarchically. Add CSS and JavaScript: If your website requires styling or interactivity, create separate CSS and JavaScript files within the appropriate directories. Link these files to your HTML files using appropriate HTML tags. Preview and Test: Use the Leo editor's built-in preview functionality to view your website locally. Open an HTML file, select the preview option, and check the rendered output in the integrated web browser. Edit and Update: Make changes to the HTML, CSS, and JavaScript files as needed to refine your website's design and functionality. Use Leo's features for navigation, searching, and editing to manage and update your site effectively. Publish Your Website: Once you are satisfied with the website's content and design, use your preferred web hosting service or server to publish your website. Upload the HTML, CSS, JavaScript, and other necessary files to the appropriate directories on your web server. Maintenance and Updates: As your website evolves, use the Leo editor to manage updates and maintain the site's structure. Add new pages, modify existing content, and ensure your website remains up-to-date. Remember to refer to the Leo editor's documentation and resources for detailed information on its features and functionalities. Additionally, consult web development resources to learn more about HTML, CSS, and JavaScript to enhance your website's design and functionality. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/leo-editor/8e8dfeb9-01d0-4931-a4d0-313f80ee1c4fn%40googlegroups.com.
Re: Impressive ChatGPT responses
On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 1:38 PM Thomas Passin wrote: > And here is the earlier transcript, reformated - the chatbot's doing a lot > of hand-waving! Imo, the response is drivel. Edward -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/leo-editor/CAMF8tS3okdN6aiS4ZTT6t4vHr0j90jkXcL9a--YVT0A54vRW0g%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: New User's Guide To Leo
Ben, I have used Leo successfully for many years in your examples 2 and 3. I'd be glad to write up typical workflows that I use if that would be useful, However, I agree w/ Thomas these probably aren't best suited for a new user guide. Rob... On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 11:17:52 AM UTC-4 Ben Hancock wrote: Thomas writes: I've been thinking that there should be a book on Leo. I don't think I've got another book left in me, but I'm not completely happy with the existing docs because I don't think they really match what a new user faces when trying to fire up Leo and use it the first few times. I'm a new Leo user -- I've been programming in Python for 5+ years, but somehow only recently managed to discover it -- and think something like this would be very helpful. The tutorials, documentation, and Edward's YouTube videos are great. But what I think might be really useful are some step-by-step examples of common user stories. For example: * I'm a developer working on a small-ish Python project that I collaborate on with other people. How can I effectively use Leo to start editing my existing code base? How should I go about breaking up parts of the existing code into an outline (without actually breaking things)? * I'm a technical writer working on a publication. How can I start writing my outline in Leo, and then save/export it to be shared with others in a plain text format (ReST, Markdown, etc.)? * I manage a small website that's mostly just HTML and CSS. How can I use Leo's outlining framework to keep things more manageable and reduce duplication? Those are just some ideas. And I apologize in advance if these things *should* be obvious to a newcomer. I've climbed a few text editor hills (vim, Emacs, acme, etc.) and I really like what I've seen of Leo, but I do find myself puzzling at what seem like basic questions. Thanks all. Ben -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/leo-editor/450ef076-02b1-4b0e-acfd-c155b2f3cf7fn%40googlegroups.com.
