Re: How many of you must still use Python 2?

[Edward K. Ream]

On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 at 9:24:41 AM UTC-5, Terry Brown wrote:

But I'm not arguing for 2.6, the above doesn't affect my use of Leo ;-) and 
> not being able to use 2.7 features in Python code is very annoying.
>

I agree.  Leo should officially state that it requires Python 2.7.  This 
should not be a big problem for anyone.

EKR

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Re: How many of you must still use Python 2?

['Terry Brown' via leo-editor]

Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) 6 uses 2.6 as its system python. RHEL 6 is 
superseded by RHEL 7, but RHEL 6 is still a long way from its end of life, 
people are still using it.
But I'm not arguing for 2.6, the above doesn't affect my use of Leo ;-) and not 
being able to use 2.7 features in Python code is very annoying.
Cheers -Terry
 
  From: Propadovic Nenad <npropado...@gmail.com>
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 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 1:17 AM
 Subject: Re: How many of you must still use Python 2?
   
"Is there any need for Python 2 support earlier than 2.7?"
That's a completely different kind of question.
If I remember well, last time I used Python 2.6 was in 2012.

2016-09-21 7:42 GMT+02:00 Viktor Ransmayr <viktor.ransm...@gmail.com>:

Am Montag, 19. September 2016 13:43:34 UTC+2 schrieb Edward K. Ream:
I do most of my testing these days using Python 3.  I am wondering how many Leo 
users still must use Python 2.

Don't panic.  I have no plans to remove support for Python 2 in the near future.


I think in order to reduce the test & support effort for Leo a refinement of 
this question would be:

Is there any need for Python 2 support earlier than 2.7?

With kind regards,

Viktor 
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Re: How many of you must still use Python 2?

[Edward K. Ream]

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 12:42 AM, Viktor Ransmayr  wrote:

>
> Is there any need for Python 2 support earlier than 2.7?
>

​No, imo.  I use 2.7 for all Python 2 testing.  Leo's docs mention that it
will work with Python 2.6, but I see no reason not to require 2.7.

I'll change the docs (and Leo's web site) unless I hear from somebody who
must use Python 2.6.

Edward

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Re: How many of you must still use Python 2?

[Propadovic Nenad]

"Is there any need for Python 2 support earlier than 2.7?"
That's a completely different kind of question.
If I remember well, last time I used Python 2.6 was in 2012.

2016-09-21 7:42 GMT+02:00 Viktor Ransmayr :

> Am Montag, 19. September 2016 13:43:34 UTC+2 schrieb Edward K. Ream:
>>
>> I do most of my testing these days using Python 3.  I am wondering how
>> many Leo users still must use Python 2.
>>
>> Don't panic.  I have no plans to remove support for Python 2 in the near
>> future.
>>
>
> I think in order to reduce the test & support effort for Leo a refinement
> of this question would be:
>
> Is there any need for Python 2 support earlier than 2.7?
>
> With kind regards,
>
> Viktor
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Re: How many of you must still use Python 2?

[Viktor Ransmayr]

Am Montag, 19. September 2016 13:43:34 UTC+2 schrieb Edward K. Ream:
>
> I do most of my testing these days using Python 3.  I am wondering how 
> many Leo users still must use Python 2.
>
> Don't panic.  I have no plans to remove support for Python 2 in the near 
> future.
>

I think in order to reduce the test & support effort for Leo a refinement 
of this question would be:

Is there any need for Python 2 support earlier than 2.7?

With kind regards,

Viktor 

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Re: How many of you must still use Python 2?

['Terry Brown' via leo-editor]

My use of Leo at work, which is very important to me ;-) really depends on it 
being Python 2.7.
Note to self: At home, I should switch to 3 for Leo, just to make sure my 
chosen plugins work.
Cheers -Terry
 
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 Subject: How many of you must still use Python 2?
   
I do most of my testing these days using Python 3.  I am wondering how many Leo 
users still must use Python 2.

Don't panic.  I have no plans to remove support for Python 2 in the near future.

Edward
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Re: How many of you must still use Python 2?

[Zoom.Quiet]

i always base py 2, because all project is in py 2 ...
and also all linux default installed is py 2.

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 6:43 AM, Edward K. Ream  wrote:
> I do most of my testing these days using Python 3.  I am wondering how many
> Leo users still must use Python 2.
>
> Don't panic.  I have no plans to remove support for Python 2 in the near
> future.
>
> Edward
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Re: How many of you must still use Python 2?

[Chris George]

I find myself learning python, so chose to stick with python3. I have 
always used Leo for prose and poetry,; this is the first crack at learning 
to code for me.

On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 5:28:51 AM UTC-7, Propadovic Nenad wrote:
>
> * I'm sorry not to be able to say for the current project, as the decision 
> to move back to Python 2 was made before I joined the project some 4 months 
> ago. (I'm a contractor, historically switching 
> projects/departments/projects at least once a year).
> * For the previous project, it was not a library, but a whole environment 
> built within BMW where the team who built it was released after they 
> finished their job. Nobody of the people currently in charge would even 
> dare to touch anything, least starting to move to Python 3.
> * Previous to that, it was a Test Automation tool, built upon Python 2, 
> and sold for some 10K € for a workplace. Maybe the company who sells it 
> will care to move to Python 3 some time, but they're probably in no hurry. 
> In the german automotive industry the time stands still.
> * Before that, it was some Websocket library not available in Python 3. In 
> a startup, a quite up-beat one, doing a very nice web application.
> The last project I mentioned ended in January 2015. The other three came 
> later.
>
> 2016-09-19 13:56 GMT+02:00 Edward K. Ream  >:
>
>> On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 6:52:41 AM UTC-5, Propadovic Nenad wrote:
>>
>> I use Python 2 daily, not by choice, neither mine nor by the companie(s) 
>>> I work for. It just happens so that here and there some library we need is 
>>> lacking, so, I must say, I've never done a pure Python 3 project by now.
>>>
>>
>> Which library is that, if you don't mind my asking? 
>>
>> Thanks for the reply.  I'm sure there are others in your situation.  I am 
>> curious to know about how many.  So please let me know if you are someone 
>> else in the same situation.
>>
>> EKR
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Re: How many of you must still use Python 2?

[Propadovic Nenad]

* I'm sorry not to be able to say for the current project, as the decision
to move back to Python 2 was made before I joined the project some 4 months
ago. (I'm a contractor, historically switching
projects/departments/projects at least once a year).
* For the previous project, it was not a library, but a whole environment
built within BMW where the team who built it was released after they
finished their job. Nobody of the people currently in charge would even
dare to touch anything, least starting to move to Python 3.
* Previous to that, it was a Test Automation tool, built upon Python 2, and
sold for some 10K € for a workplace. Maybe the company who sells it will
care to move to Python 3 some time, but they're probably in no hurry. In
the german automotive industry the time stands still.
* Before that, it was some Websocket library not available in Python 3. In
a startup, a quite up-beat one, doing a very nice web application.
The last project I mentioned ended in January 2015. The other three came
later.

2016-09-19 13:56 GMT+02:00 Edward K. Ream :

> On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 6:52:41 AM UTC-5, Propadovic Nenad wrote:
>
> I use Python 2 daily, not by choice, neither mine nor by the companie(s) I
>> work for. It just happens so that here and there some library we need is
>> lacking, so, I must say, I've never done a pure Python 3 project by now.
>>
>
> Which library is that, if you don't mind my asking?
>
> Thanks for the reply.  I'm sure there are others in your situation.  I am
> curious to know about how many.  So please let me know if you are someone
> else in the same situation.
>
> EKR
>
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Re: How many of you must still use Python 2?

[Edward K. Ream]

On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 6:52:41 AM UTC-5, Propadovic Nenad wrote:

I use Python 2 daily, not by choice, neither mine nor by the companie(s) I 
> work for. It just happens so that here and there some library we need is 
> lacking, so, I must say, I've never done a pure Python 3 project by now.
>

Which library is that, if you don't mind my asking? 

Thanks for the reply.  I'm sure there are others in your situation.  I am 
curious to know about how many.  So please let me know if you are someone 
else in the same situation.

EKR

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Re: How many of you must still use Python 2?

[Propadovic Nenad]

I use Python 2 daily, not by choice, neither mine nor by the companie(s) I
work for. It just happens so that here and there some library we need is
lacking, so, I must say, I've never done a pure Python 3 project by now.

2016-09-19 13:43 GMT+02:00 Edward K. Ream :

> I do most of my testing these days using Python 3.  I am wondering how
> many Leo users still must use Python 2.
>
> Don't panic.  I have no plans to remove support for Python 2 in the near
> future.
>
> Edward
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How many of you must still use Python 2?

[Edward K. Ream]

I do most of my testing these days using Python 3.  I am wondering how many 
Leo users still must use Python 2.

Don't panic.  I have no plans to remove support for Python 2 in the near 
future.

Edward

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