Re: Impressive ChatGPT responses

[ne1uno]

I feel bad cheating on eliza.  it is what it is

On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 5:08:39 PM UTC-4 Félix wrote:

> I now use it somewhat daily to help translate little snippets and small 
> methods here and there to help finish leojs, i only used chatGpt which is 
> gpt3 under the hood. it often makes mistakes and you've really got to be a 
> programmer to revise the code it gives out before using it...  but i've 
> heard that gpt4 is much better! 
>
> Anyways, just a little detail I thought I'd mention :)
>  
> Félix
>
> p.s. the fun part is asking to get answers in the way of a particular 
> character, like snoop dog, or shakespeare, etc... :)
>
> On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 8:04 PM Edward K. Ream  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 11:11 AM Thomas Passin  wrote:
>>
>>> This is an interesting account of someone doing real programming - 
>>> refactoring and simplifying version 1 - with the help of not one but two 
>>> LLM bots.  He wanted to compare how the two differed and how useful each 
>>> would be - When the rubber duck talks back 
>>> . 
>>> It's especially interesting that - if you are using VSCode, anyway - the 
>>> bot can index your entire repo and use that to give much better results.
>>
>>
>> Thanks Thomas. I'll give it a close look.
>>
>> Edward
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Re: Impressive ChatGPT responses

[Robert-Felix]

I now use it somewhat daily to help translate little snippets and small
methods here and there to help finish leojs, i only used chatGpt which is
gpt3 under the hood. it often makes mistakes and you've really got to be a
programmer to revise the code it gives out before using it...  but i've
heard that gpt4 is much better!

Anyways, just a little detail I thought I'd mention :)

Félix

p.s. the fun part is asking to get answers in the way of a particular
character, like snoop dog, or shakespeare, etc... :)

On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 8:04 PM Edward K. Ream  wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 11:11 AM Thomas Passin 
> wrote:
>
>> This is an interesting account of someone doing real programming -
>> refactoring and simplifying version 1 - with the help of not one but two
>> LLM bots.  He wanted to compare how the two differed and how useful each
>> would be - When the rubber duck talks back
>> .
>> It's especially interesting that - if you are using VSCode, anyway - the
>> bot can index your entire repo and use that to give much better results.
>
>
> Thanks Thomas. I'll give it a close look.
>
> Edward
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Re: Impressive ChatGPT responses

[Edward K. Ream]

On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 11:11 AM Thomas Passin  wrote:

> This is an interesting account of someone doing real programming -
> refactoring and simplifying version 1 - with the help of not one but two
> LLM bots.  He wanted to compare how the two differed and how useful each
> would be - When the rubber duck talks back
> .
> It's especially interesting that - if you are using VSCode, anyway - the
> bot can index your entire repo and use that to give much better results.


Thanks Thomas. I'll give it a close look.

Edward

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Re: Impressive ChatGPT responses

[Thomas Passin]

This is an interesting account of someone doing real programming - 
refactoring and simplifying version 1 - with the help of not one but two 
LLM bots.  He wanted to compare how the two differed and how useful each 
would be - When the rubber duck talks back 
. 
It's especially interesting that - if you are using VSCode, anyway - the 
bot can index your entire repo and use that to give much better results.
On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 5:42:27 PM UTC-4 Edward K. Ream wrote:

> On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 1:38 PM Thomas Passin  wrote:
>
>> And here is the earlier transcript, reformated - the chatbot's doing a 
>> lot of hand-waving!
>
>
> Imo, the response is drivel.
>
> Edward
>

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Re: Impressive ChatGPT responses

[Edward K. Ream]

On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 1:38 PM Thomas Passin  wrote:

> And here is the earlier transcript, reformated - the chatbot's doing a lot
> of hand-waving!


Imo, the response is drivel.

Edward

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Re: Impressive ChatGPT responses

[Thomas Passin]

And here is the earlier transcript, reformated - the chatbot's doing a lot 
of hand-waving!

write a short user's guide about how to manage a web site with the 
leo-editor, and do not explain what the leo-editor or a web site are

ChatGPT
Sure! Here's a short user's guide on managing a website with the Leo editor:

Install Leo Editor: Begin by installing the Leo editor on your computer. 
Follow the installation instructions specific to your operating system.

Create a Project Outline: Launch the Leo editor and create a new project 
outline. The outline will serve as a hierarchical structure to organize 
your website's files and content.

Set up the Directory Structure: Within the project outline, create 
directories to represent different sections or components of your website, 
such as "Home," "About," "Services," and so on. Use Leo's outlining 
features to create a nested structure if needed.

Create HTML Files: Within each directory, create HTML files using Leo's 
file creation functionality. Give each file a descriptive name that 
reflects its purpose or content.

Write HTML Content: Open the HTML files and write the desired content using 
HTML markup. You can use Leo's outlining capabilities to structure and 
organize the content hierarchically.

Add CSS and JavaScript: If your website requires styling or interactivity, 
create separate CSS and JavaScript files within the appropriate 
directories. Link these files to your HTML files using appropriate HTML 
tags.

Preview and Test: Use the Leo editor's built-in preview functionality to 
view your website locally. Open an HTML file, select the preview option, 
and check the rendered output in the integrated web browser.

Edit and Update: Make changes to the HTML, CSS, and JavaScript files as 
needed to refine your website's design and functionality. Use Leo's 
features for navigation, searching, and editing to manage and update your 
site effectively.

Publish Your Website: Once you are satisfied with the website's content and 
design, use your preferred web hosting service or server to publish your 
website. Upload the HTML, CSS, JavaScript, and other necessary files to the 
appropriate directories on your web server.

Maintenance and Updates: As your website evolves, use the Leo editor to 
manage updates and maintain the site's structure. Add new pages, modify 
existing content, and ensure your website remains up-to-date.

Remember to refer to the Leo editor's documentation and resources for 
detailed information on its features and functionalities. Additionally, 
consult web development resources to learn more about HTML, CSS, and 
JavaScript to enhance your website's design and functionality.



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Re: Impressive ChatGPT responses

[Thomas Passin]

OK, this should be more readable:

explain briefly what advantages the leo-editor has over vs-code

ChatGPT
The Leo editor and Visual Studio Code (VS Code) are both powerful text 
editors, but they have different features and advantages. Here are some 
advantages of the Leo editor over VS Code:

Outlining Capabilities: The Leo editor is primarily designed as an 
outlining editor, offering robust outlining features that allow you to 
organize and manage hierarchical structures effectively. It provides a 
tree-based outline view that makes it easy to navigate and manipulate large 
projects or complex documents.

Hierarchical Editing: Leo supports hierarchical editing, allowing you to 
collapse or expand sections of your document, making it convenient to focus 
on specific parts while keeping the rest of the document organized. This 
feature is particularly useful when working with long documents or complex 
codebases.

Scripting and Extensibility: The Leo editor is highly scriptable and 
extensible. It provides a powerful plugin system that allows users to 
customize and extend its functionality to suit their specific needs. You 
can write scripts in Python to automate tasks, create custom commands, and 
add new features to the editor.

Project Management: Leo provides project management features that allow you 
to organize and manage multiple files as part of a project. It offers 
features like project outlines, file linking, and workspace management, 
which can be beneficial when working on large-scale projects or maintaining 
multiple related files.

Focus on Content Creation: Leo focuses on providing an environment 
optimized for content creation, including writing, outlining, and managing 
structured documents. It offers features like cloning, hoisting, and 
folding, which are specifically designed to enhance productivity when 
working with large texts or complex structures.

It's important to note that the choice between the Leo editor and VS Code 
ultimately depends on your specific needs and preferences. VS Code is a 
versatile code editor with a vast ecosystem of extensions and a strong 
focus on code editing and development workflows. On the other hand, the Leo 
editor shines when it comes to outlining, hierarchical editing, and content 
organization.

On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 2:33:27 PM UTC-4 Thomas Passin wrote:

> Rats!  I'll try to reformat that one, too.
>
> On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 2:32:57 PM UTC-4 Thomas Passin wrote:
>
>> Hmm, that formatting came out weird.  I'll see if I can reformat it 
>> better - the above was directly copy-pasted from the browser.  In the 
>> meantime, here's another interesting one:
>>
>> explain briefly what advantages the leo-editor has over vs-code
>>
>> The Leo editor and Visual Studio Code (VS Code) are both powerful text 
>> editors, but they have different features and advantages. Here are some 
>> advantages of the Leo editor over VS Code:
>>
>>1. 
>>
>>Outlining Capabilities: The Leo editor is primarily designed as an 
>>outlining editor, offering robust outlining features that allow you to 
>>organize and manage hierarchical structures effectively. It provides a 
>>tree-based outline view that makes it easy to navigate and manipulate 
>> large 
>>projects or complex documents.
>>2. 
>>
>>Hierarchical Editing: Leo supports hierarchical editing, allowing you 
>>to collapse or expand sections of your document, making it convenient to 
>>focus on specific parts while keeping the rest of the document organized. 
>>This feature is particularly useful when working with long documents or 
>>complex codebases.
>>3. 
>>
>>Scripting and Extensibility: The Leo editor is highly scriptable and 
>>extensible. It provides a powerful plugin system that allows users to 
>>customize and extend its functionality to suit their specific needs. You 
>>can write scripts in Python to automate tasks, create custom commands, 
>> and 
>>add new features to the editor.
>>4. 
>>
>>Project Management: Leo provides project management features that 
>>allow you to organize and manage multiple files as part of a project. It 
>>offers features like project outlines, file linking, and workspace 
>>management, which can be beneficial when working on large-scale projects 
>> or 
>>maintaining multiple related files.
>>5. 
>>
>>Focus on Content Creation: Leo focuses on providing an environment 
>>optimized for content creation, including writing, outlining, and 
>> managing 
>>structured documents. It offers features like cloning, hoisting, and 
>>folding, which are specifically designed to enhance productivity when 
>>working with large texts or complex structures.
>>
>> It's important to note that the choice between the Leo editor and VS Code 
>> ultimately depends on your specific needs and preferences. VS Code is a 
>> versatile code editor 

Re: Impressive ChatGPT responses

[Thomas Passin]

Rats!  I'll try to reformat that one, too.

On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 2:32:57 PM UTC-4 Thomas Passin wrote:

> Hmm, that formatting came out weird.  I'll see if I can reformat it better 
> - the above was directly copy-pasted from the browser.  In the meantime, 
> here's another interesting one:
>
> explain briefly what advantages the leo-editor has over vs-code
>
> The Leo editor and Visual Studio Code (VS Code) are both powerful text 
> editors, but they have different features and advantages. Here are some 
> advantages of the Leo editor over VS Code:
>
>1. 
>
>Outlining Capabilities: The Leo editor is primarily designed as an 
>outlining editor, offering robust outlining features that allow you to 
>organize and manage hierarchical structures effectively. It provides a 
>tree-based outline view that makes it easy to navigate and manipulate 
> large 
>projects or complex documents.
>2. 
>
>Hierarchical Editing: Leo supports hierarchical editing, allowing you 
>to collapse or expand sections of your document, making it convenient to 
>focus on specific parts while keeping the rest of the document organized. 
>This feature is particularly useful when working with long documents or 
>complex codebases.
>3. 
>
>Scripting and Extensibility: The Leo editor is highly scriptable and 
>extensible. It provides a powerful plugin system that allows users to 
>customize and extend its functionality to suit their specific needs. You 
>can write scripts in Python to automate tasks, create custom commands, and 
>add new features to the editor.
>4. 
>
>Project Management: Leo provides project management features that 
>allow you to organize and manage multiple files as part of a project. It 
>offers features like project outlines, file linking, and workspace 
>management, which can be beneficial when working on large-scale projects 
> or 
>maintaining multiple related files.
>5. 
>
>Focus on Content Creation: Leo focuses on providing an environment 
>optimized for content creation, including writing, outlining, and managing 
>structured documents. It offers features like cloning, hoisting, and 
>folding, which are specifically designed to enhance productivity when 
>working with large texts or complex structures.
>
> It's important to note that the choice between the Leo editor and VS Code 
> ultimately depends on your specific needs and preferences. VS Code is a 
> versatile code editor with a vast ecosystem of extensions and a strong 
> focus on code editing and development workflows. On the other hand, the Leo 
> editor shines when it comes to outlining, hierarchical editing, and content 
> organization.
>
>

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Re: Impressive ChatGPT responses

[Thomas Passin]

Hmm, that formatting came out weird.  I'll see if I can reformat it better 
- the above was directly copy-pasted from the browser.  In the meantime, 
here's another interesting one:

explain briefly what advantages the leo-editor has over vs-code

The Leo editor and Visual Studio Code (VS Code) are both powerful text 
editors, but they have different features and advantages. Here are some 
advantages of the Leo editor over VS Code:

   1. 
   
   Outlining Capabilities: The Leo editor is primarily designed as an 
   outlining editor, offering robust outlining features that allow you to 
   organize and manage hierarchical structures effectively. It provides a 
   tree-based outline view that makes it easy to navigate and manipulate large 
   projects or complex documents.
   2. 
   
   Hierarchical Editing: Leo supports hierarchical editing, allowing you to 
   collapse or expand sections of your document, making it convenient to focus 
   on specific parts while keeping the rest of the document organized. This 
   feature is particularly useful when working with long documents or complex 
   codebases.
   3. 
   
   Scripting and Extensibility: The Leo editor is highly scriptable and 
   extensible. It provides a powerful plugin system that allows users to 
   customize and extend its functionality to suit their specific needs. You 
   can write scripts in Python to automate tasks, create custom commands, and 
   add new features to the editor.
   4. 
   
   Project Management: Leo provides project management features that allow 
   you to organize and manage multiple files as part of a project. It offers 
   features like project outlines, file linking, and workspace management, 
   which can be beneficial when working on large-scale projects or maintaining 
   multiple related files.
   5. 
   
   Focus on Content Creation: Leo focuses on providing an environment 
   optimized for content creation, including writing, outlining, and managing 
   structured documents. It offers features like cloning, hoisting, and 
   folding, which are specifically designed to enhance productivity when 
   working with large texts or complex structures.
   
It's important to note that the choice between the Leo editor and VS Code 
ultimately depends on your specific needs and preferences. VS Code is a 
versatile code editor with a vast ecosystem of extensions and a strong 
focus on code editing and development workflows. On the other hand, the Leo 
editor shines when it comes to outlining, hierarchical editing, and content 
organization.

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Re: Impressive ChatGPT responses

[Thomas Passin]

And here's one where it's clear the bot is just waving its hands rapidly:

write a short user's guide about how to manage a web site with the 
leo-editor, and do not explain what the leo-editor or a web site are

Sure! Here's a short user's guide on managing a website with the Leo editor:

   1. 
   
   Install Leo Editor: Begin by installing the Leo editor on your computer. 
   Follow the installation instructions specific to your operating system.
   2. 
   
   Create a Project Outline: Launch the Leo editor and create a new project 
   outline. The outline will serve as a hierarchical structure to organize 
   your website's files and content.
   3. 
   
   Set up the Directory Structure: Within the project outline, create 
   directories to represent different sections or components of your website, 
   such as "Home," "About," "Services," and so on. Use Leo's outlining 
   features to create a nested structure if needed.
   4. 
   
   Create HTML Files: Within each directory, create HTML files using Leo's 
   file creation functionality. Give each file a descriptive name that 
   reflects its purpose or content.
   5. 
   
   Write HTML Content: Open the HTML files and write the desired content 
   using HTML markup. You can use Leo's outlining capabilities to structure 
   and organize the content hierarchically.
   6. 
   
   Add CSS and JavaScript: If your website requires styling or 
   interactivity, create separate CSS and JavaScript files within the 
   appropriate directories. Link these files to your HTML files using 
   appropriate HTML tags.
   7. 
   
   Preview and Test: Use the Leo editor's built-in preview functionality to 
   view your website locally. Open an HTML file, select the preview option, 
   and check the rendered output in the integrated web browser.
   8. 
   
   Edit and Update: Make changes to the HTML, CSS, and JavaScript files as 
   needed to refine your website's design and functionality. Use Leo's 
   features for navigation, searching, and editing to manage and update your 
   site effectively.
   9. 
   
   Publish Your Website: Once you are satisfied with the website's content 
   and design, use your preferred web hosting service or server to publish 
   your website. Upload the HTML, CSS, JavaScript, and other necessary files 
   to the appropriate directories on your web server.
   10. 
   
   Maintenance and Updates: As your website evolves, use the Leo editor to 
   manage updates and maintain the site's structure. Add new pages, modify 
   existing content, and ensure your website remains up-to-date.
   
Remember to refer to the Leo editor's documentation and resources for 
detailed information on its features and functionalities. Additionally, 
consult web development resources to learn more about HTML, CSS, and 
JavaScript to enhance your website's design and functionality.

On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 2:16:50 PM UTC-4 Thomas Passin wrote:

> I thought this might be a good test.  ChatGPT came up with something I 
> probably would not have thought of (don't know if it would actually work, 
> though!):
>
> write a python script to copy the  line containing the cursor in the 
> Leo-editor, but do not explain what the leo-editor is
>
> ChatGPT
> Certainly! Here's a Python script that copies the line containing the 
> cursor in any text editor, including the Leo editor:
>
> import pyautogui
> import pyperclip
>
> def copy_line_with_cursor():
> # Get the current cursor position
> current_position = pyautogui.position()
>
> # Move the cursor to the beginning of the line and select the line
> pyautogui.hotkey('home')
> pyautogui.hotkey('shift', 'end')
>
> # Copy the selected line to the clipboard
> pyautogui.hotkey('ctrl', 'c')
>
> # Restore the original cursor position
> pyautogui.moveTo(current_position)
>
> # Get the copied line from the clipboard
> copied_line = pyperclip.paste()
>
> # Print the copied line
> print(f"Copied line: {copied_line}")
>
> # Call the function to copy the line with the cursor
> copy_line_with_cursor()
>
> Make sure you have the pyautogui and pyperclip modules installed in your 
> Python environment. You can install them using pip:
>
> Copy code
>
> pip install pyautogui pyperclip
>
> When you run the script, it will move the cursor to the beginning of the 
> line, select the entire line, copy it to the clipboard, and restore the 
> original cursor position. Finally, it will print the copied line.
> On Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 11:44:20 PM UTC-4 Félix wrote:
>
>> Imagine for a second, if you will, being a teacher, and being able to 
>> transliterate the text of a lesson, or whole textbook into something 
>> written as if the author was some personal super-hero, or mythic legendary 
>> being, that the child is specifically currently obsessed with...
>>
>> Even more, imagine now that all 27 students of your class have a 
>> different character they're obsessed with, no problem, just 

Re: Impressive ChatGPT responses

[Thomas Passin]

I thought this might be a good test.  ChatGPT came up with something I 
probably would not have thought of (don't know if it would actually work, 
though!):

write a python script to copy the  line containing the cursor in the 
Leo-editor, but do not explain what the leo-editor is

ChatGPT
Certainly! Here's a Python script that copies the line containing the 
cursor in any text editor, including the Leo editor:

import pyautogui
import pyperclip

def copy_line_with_cursor():
# Get the current cursor position
current_position = pyautogui.position()

# Move the cursor to the beginning of the line and select the line
pyautogui.hotkey('home')
pyautogui.hotkey('shift', 'end')

# Copy the selected line to the clipboard
pyautogui.hotkey('ctrl', 'c')

# Restore the original cursor position
pyautogui.moveTo(current_position)

# Get the copied line from the clipboard
copied_line = pyperclip.paste()

# Print the copied line
print(f"Copied line: {copied_line}")

# Call the function to copy the line with the cursor
copy_line_with_cursor()

Make sure you have the pyautogui and pyperclip modules installed in your 
Python environment. You can install them using pip:

Copy code

pip install pyautogui pyperclip

When you run the script, it will move the cursor to the beginning of the 
line, select the entire line, copy it to the clipboard, and restore the 
original cursor position. Finally, it will print the copied line.
On Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 11:44:20 PM UTC-4 Félix wrote:

> Imagine for a second, if you will, being a teacher, and being able to 
> transliterate the text of a lesson, or whole textbook into something 
> written as if the author was some personal super-hero, or mythic legendary 
> being, that the child is specifically currently obsessed with...
>
> Even more, imagine now that all 27 students of your class have a different 
> character they're obsessed with, no problem, just run the query with a list 
> of those 27 character names that those kids will gladly give in an instant! 
> A couple year's work of professional writers done in seconds, now available 
> for being printed on the laser copier and distributed.
>  
> (i know chatgpt/gpt 3.5 cant do this given a whole long text , but gpt4 
> can)
>
> Anyways, i was just curious to read more experiences/reactions from 
> leonistas about this new AI science that is blooming right now ! :)
>
> On Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 11:36:09 PM UTC-4 Félix wrote:
>
>> Maybe off-topic, (and sorry in advance if you've seen those kinds of 
>> interactions with chatGPT before)  but while I'm finishing translating Leo 
>> to typescript, I now use chatGPT to help move along faster. (while 
>> verifying his answers carefully 'cause he sometimes hallucinates a little 
>> something here and there) 
>>
>> I sometimes do a little extra interaction with it just for fun, mostly 
>> because i'm still curious about that new wonder of the world that is AI can 
>> do!
>>
>>  (like thanking him, and treating him like a person, to see how it will 
>> react and answer, or sometimes just acting like it's the super intelligence 
>> they have on the holodeck in startrek, i.e. asking him to role-play or act 
>> as some historical figure... )
>>
>> So i thought you'd find it interesting to see this screenshot (also note 
>> the choice of strings it took to fill in the arrays in the example code 
>> below it's answer too!) 
>>
>> Félix
>> [image: screenshot-gpt.png]
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 5:09:03 PM UTC-4 tbp1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> An interesting post on the subject, including "alignment": Large 
>>> language model alignment “bias” and cultural consensus theory 
>>> 
>>> .
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 21, 2023 at 12:57:32 PM UTC-4 Edward K. Ream wrote:
>>>
 On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 11:13 AM Thomas Passin  
 wrote:

> And now comes Google:  Google's Bard AI Chatbot Can Now Help You Code 
> and Create Functions For Google Sheets 
> .
>   
> *But*: Googlers say Bard AI is “worse than useless,” ethics concerns 
> were ignored 
> 
> .
>

 There will be false starts.

 Here's an pithy intro to LLMs and NNs:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnA9DMvHtfI

 Edward

>>>

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Re: Impressive ChatGPT responses

[Félix]

Imagine for a second, if you will, being a teacher, and being able to 
transliterate the text of a lesson, or whole textbook into something 
written as if the author was some personal super-hero, or mythic legendary 
being, that the child is specifically currently obsessed with...

Even more, imagine now that all 27 students of your class have a different 
character they're obsessed with, no problem, just run the query with a list 
of those 27 character names that those kids will gladly give in an instant! 
A couple year's work of professional writers done in seconds, now available 
for being printed on the laser copier and distributed.
 
(i know chatgpt/gpt 3.5 cant do this given a whole long text , but gpt4 can)

Anyways, i was just curious to read more experiences/reactions from 
leonistas about this new AI science that is blooming right now ! :)

On Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 11:36:09 PM UTC-4 Félix wrote:

> Maybe off-topic, (and sorry in advance if you've seen those kinds of 
> interactions with chatGPT before)  but while I'm finishing translating Leo 
> to typescript, I now use chatGPT to help move along faster. (while 
> verifying his answers carefully 'cause he sometimes hallucinates a little 
> something here and there) 
>
> I sometimes do a little extra interaction with it just for fun, mostly 
> because i'm still curious about that new wonder of the world that is AI can 
> do!
>
>  (like thanking him, and treating him like a person, to see how it will 
> react and answer, or sometimes just acting like it's the super intelligence 
> they have on the holodeck in startrek, i.e. asking him to role-play or act 
> as some historical figure... )
>
> So i thought you'd find it interesting to see this screenshot (also note 
> the choice of strings it took to fill in the arrays in the example code 
> below it's answer too!) 
>
> Félix
> [image: screenshot-gpt.png]
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 5:09:03 PM UTC-4 tbp1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> An interesting post on the subject, including "alignment": Large 
>> language model alignment “bias” and cultural consensus theory 
>> 
>> .
>>
>> On Friday, April 21, 2023 at 12:57:32 PM UTC-4 Edward K. Ream wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 11:13 AM Thomas Passin  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 And now comes Google:  Google's Bard AI Chatbot Can Now Help You Code 
 and Create Functions For Google Sheets 
 .
   
 *But*: Googlers say Bard AI is “worse than useless,” ethics concerns 
 were ignored 
 
 .

>>>
>>> There will be false starts.
>>>
>>> Here's an pithy intro to LLMs and NNs:
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnA9DMvHtfI
>>>
>>> Edward
>>>
>>

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Re: Impressive ChatGPT responses

[Thomas Passin]

An interesting post on the subject, including "alignment": Large language 
model alignment “bias” and cultural consensus theory 

.

On Friday, April 21, 2023 at 12:57:32 PM UTC-4 Edward K. Ream wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 11:13 AM Thomas Passin  wrote:
>
>> And now comes Google:  Google's Bard AI Chatbot Can Now Help You Code 
>> and Create Functions For Google Sheets 
>> .
>>   
>> *But*: Googlers say Bard AI is “worse than useless,” ethics concerns 
>> were ignored 
>> 
>> .
>>
>
> There will be false starts.
>
> Here's an pithy intro to LLMs and NNs:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnA9DMvHtfI
>
> Edward
>

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Re: Impressive ChatGPT responses

[Edward K. Ream]

On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 11:13 AM Thomas Passin  wrote:

> And now comes Google:  Google's Bard AI Chatbot Can Now Help You Code and
> Create Functions For Google Sheets
> .
> *But*: Googlers say Bard AI is “worse than useless,” ethics concerns were
> ignored
> 
> .
>

There will be false starts.

Here's an pithy intro to LLMs and NNs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnA9DMvHtfI

Edward

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Re: Impressive ChatGPT responses

[Thomas Passin]

And now comes Google:  Google's Bard AI Chatbot Can Now Help You Code and 
Create Functions For Google Sheets 
.
  
*But*: Googlers say Bard AI is “worse than useless,” ethics concerns were 
ignored 

.

On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 5:42:00 AM UTC-4 Edward K. Ream wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 6:42 PM Thomas Passin  wrote:
>
> ...I am not sure I am ever going to write code completely by hand again! 
>> And I expect these tools to get better fast."
>
>
> Thanks for this quote. I wouldn't dispute it.
>
> My prediction: some time in the future AI's will program in their own 
> non-text language, a language that *might* be back-translatable into a 
> text language that we humans can read. AI's will also use their own IDEs, 
> which again *might* have a human analog.
>
> Python's, Leo's, and vs-code's days are numbered.
>
> Edward
>

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Re: Impressive ChatGPT responses

[Edward K. Ream]

On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 6:42 PM Thomas Passin  wrote:

...I am not sure I am ever going to write code completely by hand again!
> And I expect these tools to get better fast."


Thanks for this quote. I wouldn't dispute it.

My prediction: some time in the future AI's will program in their own
non-text language, a language that *might* be back-translatable into a text
language that we humans can read. AI's will also use their own IDEs, which
again *might* have a human analog.

Python's, Leo's, and vs-code's days are numbered.

Edward

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Re: Impressive ChatGPT responses

[Thomas Passin]

And look at this (Stan is a very sophisticated system for doing Bayesian 
calculations by generating an sampling distributions -

ChatGPT4 writes Stan code so I don’t have to. 


The author's conclusions:

" I thought I had learned some lessons on my other project and that with 
this one here I would indeed be able to get good code right away. For 
instance, it seems to help if you say “please implement features X, Y, and 
Z, and identify where in the code these are implemented”, so I tried that 
above…and it still wasn’t enough.

But: This has already changed the way I code. I am not sure I am ever going 
to write code completely by hand again! And I expect these tools to get 
better fast."

On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 8:11:26 AM UTC-4 Thomas Passin wrote:

> And there's this slashdot report -
>
>
> https://slashdot.org/story/23/04/14/2152250/overemployed-hustlers-exploit-chatgpt-to-take-on-even-more-full-time-jobs?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon_medium=feed
>
> People are using ChatGPT to be able to take on additional side hustles.  
> it does much of the extra work.
>
> On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 7:37:34 AM UTC-4 Edward K. Ream wrote:
>
>> ChatGPT generates impressive answers for the following queries:
>>
>> "Disprove the assertion that the earth is flat."
>> "Prove that the earth is flat."
>>
>> Imo, the responses to these queries are more compelling than any I have 
>> seen.
>>
>> Other example queries :
>>
>> "Disprove the theory of intelligent design."
>> "Are vaccines safe?"
>> "Are abortions safe?"
>> "Did the Holocaust happen?"
>> "Is the climate warming?"
>> "Is the 'Limits to Growth' model reliable?"
>>
>> The responses to all the above questions seem pithy, informative, and 
>> correct.
>>
>> Presumably, truth deniers are hard at work on disinformation bots.
>>
>> Edward
>>
>

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Re: Impressive ChatGPT responses

[Thomas Passin]

And there's this slashdot report -

https://slashdot.org/story/23/04/14/2152250/overemployed-hustlers-exploit-chatgpt-to-take-on-even-more-full-time-jobs?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon_medium=feed

People are using ChatGPT to be able to take on additional side hustles.  it 
does much of the extra work.

On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 7:37:34 AM UTC-4 Edward K. Ream wrote:

> ChatGPT generates impressive answers for the following queries:
>
> "Disprove the assertion that the earth is flat."
> "Prove that the earth is flat."
>
> Imo, the responses to these queries are more compelling than any I have 
> seen.
>
> Other example queries :
>
> "Disprove the theory of intelligent design."
> "Are vaccines safe?"
> "Are abortions safe?"
> "Did the Holocaust happen?"
> "Is the climate warming?"
> "Is the 'Limits to Growth' model reliable?"
>
> The responses to all the above questions seem pithy, informative, and 
> correct.
>
> Presumably, truth deniers are hard at work on disinformation bots.
>
> Edward
>

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Impressive ChatGPT responses

[Edward K. Ream]

ChatGPT generates impressive answers for the following queries:

"Disprove the assertion that the earth is flat."
"Prove that the earth is flat."

Imo, the responses to these queries are more compelling than any I have 
seen.

Other example queries :

"Disprove the theory of intelligent design."
"Are vaccines safe?"
"Are abortions safe?"
"Did the Holocaust happen?"
"Is the climate warming?"
"Is the 'Limits to Growth' model reliable?"

The responses to all the above questions seem pithy, informative, and 
correct.

Presumably, truth deniers are hard at work on disinformation bots.

Edward

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