Re: new entity - generic version
M.Canales.es wrote: El Jueves, 23 de Junio de 2005 08:24, Archaic escribió: I made some changes in my WC and created a diff to see if something like this might be usable and worthwhile. Basically it just keeps us from having to update the test results link in abouttestsuites.xml. Look a good idea to me. Likewise. Feel free to dump this in trunk and testing. Thanks, Matt. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
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libstdc++
I noticed on linking a gtkmm app that the gcc source directory is listed as a library directory. e.g. (snip) -L/tools/build/gcc-build/i686-pc-linux-gnu/libstdc++-v3/src -L/tools/build/gcc-build/i686-pc-linux-gnu/libstdc++-v3/src/.libs -L/tools/build/gcc-build/gcc (/snip) I build in /tools/build, yours will say /sources or whatever you used. Cat /usr/lib/libstdc++.la and libsup++ to see what you have. I expect this is pulled into the .la all c++ libraries, I have 28 more with the noise now. Just wondering if we should remove it when we install gcc. thoughts? -- David Jensen -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: libstdc++
David Jensen wrote: I noticed on linking a gtkmm app that the gcc source directory is listed as a library directory. e.g. (snip) -L/tools/build/gcc-build/i686-pc-linux-gnu/libstdc++-v3/src -L/tools/build/gcc-build/i686-pc-linux-gnu/libstdc++-v3/src/.libs -L/tools/build/gcc-build/gcc This is http://bugs.linuxfromscratch.org/show_bug.cgi?id=884. I'd be prone to just leave it alone for now, seeing as it hasn't caused us any real problems so far. Regards, Matt. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: libstdc++
Matthew Burgess wrote: David Jensen wrote: I noticed on linking a gtkmm app that the gcc source directory is listed as a library directory. e.g. (snip) -L/tools/build/gcc-build/i686-pc-linux-gnu/libstdc++-v3/src -L/tools/build/gcc-build/i686-pc-linux-gnu/libstdc++-v3/src/.libs -L/tools/build/gcc-build/gcc This is http://bugs.linuxfromscratch.org/show_bug.cgi?id=884. I'd be prone to just leave it alone for now, seeing as it hasn't caused us any real problems so far. Regards, Matt. I removed the noise from both libstdc++.la and libsupc++.la then rebuilt Aiksaurus. It worked as I'd hoped. LibAiksurus.la now : dependency_libs=' /usr/lib/libstdc++.la' and the libtool linking did not have the noise I may build a new system with that change, though I'd like to wait for the 2.6.12 headers. fwiw -- David Jensen -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
LFS-Testing (long)
Hi all, I've read recently about an impending release of LFS-6.1. I have rendered the XML sources and looked this version over (Testing). I have most of it installed in my test build right now. However, my question is this: How was/is this version advertised to the community, and more importantly, to new visitors to the LFS web site. As best as I can tell, there is not one place on the web site where it says that LFS-Testing is available, nor can I find a link to the rendered book. It seems with all the dev work being done recently, it would be in our best interests to advertise this version as the next version of LFS (6.1) and encourage folks to try it out. Right now, only the few handfuls of folks who actively read the mailing lists, and keep up with the commits would even have a clue that a Testing version exists. I read on the web site this note: The Testing branch does not always exist at any given time. When the Development branch comes close to a release, a Testing branch is created to finalize the release while regular development continues on the Development branch. When the Testing branch is deemed finished, it will become the new Stable version. Shouldn't there perhaps be a note in this section saying there *is* a current Testing version and provide a link to the rendered book? Please understand, I'm not trying to make waves or disparage the project. I'm simply pointing out that we are weak in advertising our recent work and to me, it presents a lack of progress to the casual guy that drops by. I would be willing to help in getting information to the web site. There are broken links and outdated information on almost every page. I'm not fully certain how the web site is generated, and/or changes are made, so I'm not sure if patches to XML can be sent in. I realize there is an effort to migrate the web site to a new setup. But, I also notice that the only person who does any real work on the web site is also the project lead for the nALFS team, an active LFS editor, and the project lead for the LIVECD project. This, in my opinion stretches one man's efforts *way* too far, and has led to a situation where information is simply not available to the casual guy who drops by and wants to check out our project. -- Randy rmlscsi: [GNU ld version 2.15.94.0.2 20041220] [gcc (GCC) 3.4.3] [GNU C Library stable release version 2.3.4] [Linux 2.6.10 i686] 10:44:00 up 84 days, 10:17, 2 users, load average: 0.48, 0.27, 0.10 -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS-Testing (long)
El Sábado, 25 de Junio de 2005 18:01, Randy McMurchy escribió: Hi all, However, my question is this: All that is a know issue that should be adderssed ASAP: http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-dev/2005-June/051727.html -- Manuel Canales Esparcia Usuario de LFS nº2886: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org LFS en castellano: http://www.escomposlinux.org/lfs-es http://www.lfs-es.com TLDP-ES: http://es.tldp.org -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS-Testing (long)
M.Canales.es wrote these words on 06/25/05 11:19 CST: All that is a know issue that should be adderssed ASAP: http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-dev/2005-June/051727.html I apparently overlooked this thread, or have forgotten about it. Either way, thanks for the link to the recent thread, Manuel. However, I'm volunteering to do something about it *now*. ASAP is meaningless. As Soon As Possible. Possible may be months from now. I'll rephrase my long email in this manner: What can I do *right now* to assist in the dissemination of information (as it pertains to the web site)? I mentioned previously, I'm not sure how generation/creation of the web site is accomplished. If someone could provide an answer to my question, which is, is it in SVN and everything is done via XML?, then I'll be happy to send in patches to the XML. Is there anyone who can review these patches, and apply them if they are deemed worthy? -- Randy rmlscsi: [GNU ld version 2.15.94.0.2 20041220] [gcc (GCC) 3.4.3] [GNU C Library stable release version 2.3.4] [Linux 2.6.10 i686] 11:25:01 up 84 days, 10:58, 2 users, load average: 0.08, 0.10, 0.09 -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: Section 7.9 - The Bash shell startup files
On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 02:02:57AM -0600, Archaic wrote: Anyone else have any comments? Matt? Randy? -- Archaic Want control, education, and security from your operating system? Hardened Linux From Scratch http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/hlfs -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS-Testing (long)
On Sat, Jun 25, 2005 at 12:14:15PM -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote: Is there a timeline for converting to the new website? Hopefully less than 2 weeks. Trying to roll it out before or at the same time as 6.1 for marketing reasons. IIRC, news items are the only thing lacking a roll out. -- Archaic Want control, education, and security from your operating system? Hardened Linux From Scratch http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/hlfs -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: Section 7.9 - The Bash shell startup files
On Sat, Jun 25, 2005 at 01:39:55PM -0400, Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Hrm. This doesn't really seem to do it for me either, though. I think something needs to show that 'info program-name' is a command to run. Of course in xml it will be commandinfo program-name/command. I just didn't think I needed to be that pedantic here. -- Archaic Want control, education, and security from your operating system? Hardened Linux From Scratch http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/hlfs -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: ramfs vs tmpfs
Archaic wrote: I would have agreed with you before glibc required tmpfs to pass it's checks and shared memory became common. Are you aware of any popular distro that *doesn't* include tmpfs in the default configuration? The reason is that the bootscripts use tmpfs, so when explaining the manual mounting of /dev at the beginning of chapter6 it would be nice to explain it how it will be done at bootup without having to explain why we aren't doing it that way during the manual phase. This might be a good time to specify enabling tmpfs in the kernel page where hotplug is explicitly mentioned. I'll BZ this. If we can be confident that the majority of host systems will natively support tmpfs (which it certainly appears we can) and the change of command offers the same (or better) functionality, then I see no reason not to change it. It would also, perhaps in a small way, prepare the reader for using a tmpfs and understanding what it is. If and when they start editing their bootscripts, they won't be surprised to see it used there. -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS-Testing (long)
Randy McMurchy wrote: I realize there is an effort to migrate the web site to a new setup. But, I also notice that the only person who does any real work on the web site is also the project lead for the nALFS team, an active LFS editor, and the project lead for the LIVECD project. Sorry, being the one you're speaking about here, I feel a little impelled so say something on this note. I agree with your point about my time and efforts being stretched, and would definitely appreciate more hands for the work. However, I'm not the only one that's been working on the site. Anderson has done an *excellent* job on the back-end scripts that generate the site and in conceptualizing and implementing new scripts. Some of his work may not always be directly visible, but it's there. And Justin Knierim has been a great help recently in getting the beta site filled with some real content. Those guys deserve more credit than you've given them. -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS-Testing (long)
Randy McMurchy wrote: My initial post was an offer to help get something current on the *web site that we currently have*. Apparently, there is no interest there, so please disregard the noise. Did you see my other message in this thread? I told you what you could do to help *now*. I can't just make you a part of the website team, because that's not within my authority. I *can* however apply patches of things that you send me, so if you see something that's broken, send a patch of the html from the repo to the website list and I will do my best to get it applied. -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
BugZilla 2.18.1
All,
I have been playing with BZ 2.18.1 in my lab. I want to upgrade our two
instances as soon as possible - probably this evening if possible. The
product now supports a bug move function that lets you take bugs from
one bz instance and move it to another. Perfect for our needs of
merging the two together.
If you have comments or general suggestions, please post to the lfs-dev
list.
Thanks
James
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Re: Section 7.9 - The Bash shell startup files
Archaic wrote: Sorry, I thought I'd already replied to this :( Issue 1: I really can't tell which method of referencing an 'info' page is better. Issue 2: A base /etc/profile below sets sed s/A/The/ Agreed. Issue 3: such locales are not supported by LFS in any way. suggested: such locales are not yet supported by LFS. Agreed. Cheers, Matt. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: BugZilla 2.18.1
James Robertson wrote: All, It has also come to my attention that not all are happy with the way bz is set up in our shop. The tool has an extensive template system that we can take advantage of as well to customize certain pieces. Post here if you have a wish list of some kind. Thanks James -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
