Re: [Fwd: [LFS Trac] #2063: Man-DB upstream bugfixes]

2007-08-20 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
 I need to get some discussion about putting this into 6.3.  I was going
 to release 6.3 final in the next two days.  Do we need to do an rc-3?
 Can we just put this in and release?
Yes, the patch is in Debian since May. So IMHO it is sufficiently tested.

 I would also appreciate links to the problems reported on the list.
   
http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-dev/2007-August/059900.html

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Re: Additional wget-list renders

2007-08-20 Thread M.Canales.es
El Lunes, 20 de Agosto de 2007 07:25, Justin Robert Knierim escribió:
 For the ftp repos, I make heavy use of the wget scripts.  Some are
 already rendered with the book, such as:

 http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/development/wget-list

 If it isn't too much trouble, could this be added for blfs and hlfs as
 well?  The command is the same, make wget-list with whatever BASEDIR
 you need.  If it is too much a pain, I can keep rendering them manually
 on quandary (my server) instead.

Updated the Makefile for both, HLFS and BLFS. If the server is using that 
Makefile to render the books (I think so), its wget-list files should be 
available on-line at the next render.

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Bootstrap GCC Pass 1 or 2? (was Re: Resolution)

2007-08-20 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Greg Schafer wrote:
 Hmmm, thinking about this some more, there might actually be another
 option and that's the one already raised by Alex ie: don't bootstrap GCC
 pass1 (possibly move the bootstrap to pass2 as suggested by Jeremy). As it
 currently stands, the new tools start being used in combo with the host
 glibc during stage2 of the bootstrap. We could avoid this by dropping the
 bootstrap of pass1. That leaves the only exposed areas as kernel headers
 installation and glibc configure, but if they cause problems, we might be
 able to get away some PATH twiddling. There might be some merit here..
 I'll chew on it for a while and maybe try some tests.

Alright, I've done some testing on this. (Greg, have you been able to 
look at anything related on your end?) Let me just say first of all, 
that the more I think about it, the saner it seems to save bootstrapping 
GCC until pass 2. Bootstrapping in pass 1 only tells us that GCC can 
compile itself fully and correctly using our new ld (in stages 2 and 3) 
and the host's libc. That's well and good, but we don't necessarily need 
that. What we _do_ need, is for a minimal GCC to be able to flawlessly 
build a new Glibc. On broken(?) hosts, that is a subtle but important 
difference.

The host that Alexander suggested, multilib Debian Lenny for x86_64 with 
32-bit userspace makes a good testcase. On this system we can't 
bootstrap GCC right away, even if using HJL Binutils. But, if we forgo 
bootstrapping and disable building of libmudflap, we can build what 
appears to be a solid Glibc. Note that I still need to set up the 
testcase that Greg has mentioned on the diy-linux-dev list so that I can 
run a full testsuite on the temporary Glibc. However, I was able to 
bootstrap GCC pass 2 on the aforementioned broken host. Here's what i did:

  * Install Debian testing (lenny) for amd64
  * apt-get install debootstrap
  * debootstrap --arch i386 --variant=buildd --exclude=mawk \
--include=gawk,gcc-4.1-multilib,m4,bison,flex,bzip2,texinfo \
lenny /mnt/testbed http://debian.osuosl.org/debian
  * chroot /mnt/testbed /bin/bash --login
  * mount -t proc proc /proc
  * mount -t sysfs sysfs /sys
  * Build up to Chapter 5 ncurses from the instructions here:
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~jhuntwork/lfs-JH/
(This currently has changes that have not been committed to
 the branch.)

Logs of my build to chapter 5 ncurses are here:
   http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~jhuntwork/build-logs-20070820/
   (The gcc-pass1-with-libmudflap.log used the same configure commands
   but without '--disable-libmudflap'.)

The diff of my working copy for the relevant changes:
   http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~jhuntwork/lfs-jh-20070820.diff

As usual, any insights or suggestions you may have are welcome.

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Re: Bootstrap GCC Pass 1 or 2? (was Re: Resolution)

2007-08-20 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
 Here's what i did:

   * Install Debian testing (lenny) for amd64
   * apt-get install debootstrap
   * debootstrap --arch i386 --variant=buildd --exclude=mawk \
 --include=gawk,gcc-4.1-multilib,m4,bison,flex,bzip2,texinfo \
 lenny /mnt/testbed http://debian.osuosl.org/debian
   

This can be simplified to:

 * Install Debian Testing (lenny) for x86
 * apt-get install build-essential gawk gcc-4.1-multilib m4 bison flex 
bzip2 terminfo linux-image-2.6-amd64
 * Reboot into the new kernel

The point of my message is to show that the suggested setup is not an 
insane hybrid of two distros.

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