Re: [lfs-dev] SVN 2020-08-11 chapter 8.4 tcl
On 8/19/20 9:24 PM, Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev wrote: Either way, actually, given the four PoIs above, make that, whichever way, the LFS 10.0 TCL would seem to need a little more work, as it is missing the manual installation of the HTML docs. I came to realize that earlier today. It will be done before the final release. -- Bruce -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [lfs-dev] SVN 2020-08-11 chapter 8.4 tcl
On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 at 20:39, Roger via lfs-dev
wrote:
> >
> >Meant to follow up on this one by asking if the TCL docs
> >are now required, or are still optional ?
>
> Optional, in that not having the docs hasn't caused any problem
> so far. Currently doing a mixed partition build with updated
> mpc-1.2.0. The gcc make check is taking hours and hours and...
> --
> Roger
That "Optional" is less surprising, given the name of the "docs" tarball, vis
tar -xf ../tcl8.6.10-html.tar.gz --strip-components=1
Indeed, if you unpack the src tarball, you will see a docs subdirectory
that contains the man pages for TCL.
I could see that the optional HTML docs would have been added
into the LFS Book, so as to avoid having to have a TCL section
in BLFS that was only really there to ensure the HTML docs got
installed.
Having said that,
1) there's no HTML reader in LFS anyway
2) The TCL HTML docs come as pre-built HTML files (OK, so dot-htm) and unpack
into a single directory
tcl8.6.10/html/
which suggests that they could be installed into place, as a one-off separate
action, as opposed to needing to be done in the "core" install.
3) If you don't put the HTML tarball's pre-built contents in place, then the
Makefile has a target that will try and build HTML pages from the man-pages
a using TCL tool anyway, vis:
#--
# This target creates the HTML folder for Tcl & Tk and places it in
# DISTDIR/html. It uses the tcltk-man2html.tcl tool from the Tcl group's tool
# workspace. It depends on the Tcl & Tk being in directories called tcl8.* &
# tk8.* up two directories from the TOOL_DIR.
#
# Note that for platforms where this is important, it is more common to use a
# build of this HTML documentation that has already been placed online. As
# such, this rule is not guaranteed to work well on all systems; it only needs
# to function on those of the Tcl/Tk maintainers.
#
# Also note that the 8.6 tool build requires an installed 8.6 native Tcl
# interpreter in order to be able to run.
#--
... some HTML targets ...
# You'd better have these programs or you will have problems creating Makefile
# from Makefile.in in the first place...
HTML_VERSION = `basename $(TOP_DIR) | sed s/tcl//`
BUILD_HTML = \
@${NATIVE_TCLSH} $(TOOL_DIR)/tcltk-man2html.tcl \
--useversion=$(HTML_VERSION) --htmldir="$(HTML_INSTALL_DIR)" \
--srcdir=$(TOP_DIR)/.. $(BUILD_HTML_FLAGS)
4) In the BLFS 9.1 Book, even if you do unpack the optional docs,
you still have to manually install them, from the unpacked location
with the following commands
If you downloaded the optional documentation, install it by issuing
the following commands as the root user:
mkdir -v -p /usr/share/doc/tcl-8.6.10 &&
cp -v -r ../html/* /usr/share/doc/tcl-8.6.10
that are missing from the 10.0 LFS Book.
Either way, actually, given the four PoIs above, make that, whichever way,
the LFS 10.0 TCL would seem to need a little more work, as it is missing
the manual installation of the HTML docs.
Kevin
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Re: [lfs-dev] SVN 2020-08-11 chapter 8.4 tcl
On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 13:34:12 +0100, Roger via lfs-dev wrote: >On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 19:13:45 +0800, Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev > wrote: > >>Meant to follow up on this one by asking if the TCL docs >>are now required, or are still optional ? > >Optional, in that not having the docs hasn't caused any problem >so far. Currently doing a mixed partition build with updated >mpc-1.2.0. The gcc make check is taking hours and hours and... The build, without tcl docs, has completed with /usr on a separate partition. Booted up okay, logged in as root and issued shutdown. Enough excitement for one day. -- Roger -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [lfs-dev] SVN 2020-08-11 chapter 8.4 tcl
On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 19:13:45 +0800, Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev wrote: >On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 at 16:31, Roger via lfs-dev > wrote: >> >> The second paragraph begins "First, unpack the documentation..." >> >> This threw me until I remembered that with every package we >> start by unpacking the source code and cd'ing into it. Perhaps >> it would be as well to stop any possible confusion by starting >> the second paragraph with something like: >> >> Having unpacked the source code and cd'd into it, unpack the >> documentation... >> >> or >> >> As usual unpack the source code, cd into it, then unpack the >> documentation... > >Meant to follow up on this one by asking if the TCL docs >are now required, or are still optional ? Optional, in that not having the docs hasn't caused any problem so far. Currently doing a mixed partition build with updated mpc-1.2.0. The gcc make check is taking hours and hours and... -- Roger -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [lfs-dev] SVN 2020-08-11 chapter 8.4 tcl
On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 at 16:31, Roger via lfs-dev wrote: > > The second paragraph begins "First, unpack the documentation..." > > This threw me until I remembered that with every package we > start by unpacking the source code and cd'ing into it. Perhaps > it would be as well to stop any possible confusion by starting > the second paragraph with something like: > > Having unpacked the source code and cd'd into it, unpack the > documentation... > > or > > As usual unpack the source code, cd into it, then unpack the > documentation... Meant to follow up on this one by asking if the TCL docs are now required, or are still optional ? The BLFS Book in 9.1 certainly had them as optional, in which case, the text from there, --- If you downloaded the optional documentation, unpack the tarball by issuing the following command: --- or some version of it that points out the optional status, might make more sense, especially as the introductory text talks about TCL, Expect and DejaGNU only being needed to run GCC tests, rather than being sine qua non packages. -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
[lfs-dev] SVN 2020-08-11 chapter 8.4 tcl
The second paragraph begins "First, unpack the documentation..." This threw me until I remembered that with every package we start by unpacking the source code and cd'ing into it. Perhaps it would be as well to stop any possible confusion by starting the second paragraph with something like: Having unpacked the source code and cd'd into it, unpack the documentation... or As usual unpack the source code, cd into it, then unpack the documentation... -- Roger -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page
