Re: [lfs-support] Host Distribution
Em 26-09-2012 17:54, Wally Lepore escreveu: I will be running windows and utilizing a host distro simultaneously. Thus I am using windows for my everyday computer tasks. Yes, I do prefer to utilize a host distro to also perform my everyday computer tasks but one step at a time for me as I am slowly making the changeover. I have many applications in windows that I utilize daily and attempting to convert them all over to a 100% Linux platform would be a monumental task. I can't afford that much downtime thus running both platforms simultaneously eases the conversion process. Some years ago, I bought a notebook for my sister. She wanted Windows Vista, not XP, but computers are not easy, for her. It was used during some time without connecting to internet. One day, it blocked, as had not registered the OS. I solved the problem for her. Meanwhile, I was often reading about Linux wonders, meaning Ubuntu-8.04, from a Brazilian informatics newsletter. The incident with my sister was the drop of water. I installed Ubuntu inside Windows, to discover if I was capable of working with it: OpenOffice, Gnucash, etc, then I decided to partition the disk, for a proper Ubuntu install. I used Netscape, then Firefox and Seamonkey, so this part was not a problem I started installing packages as I did with Windows, only later understood the repository idea. Made all mistakes, having often to reinstall everything, Windows included. From this day on, Linux became my main system, Windows only for some things, until I stopped using it, other than maintaining for relatives when they came here. One day, I wanted to learn how Linux worked, after having used some other distros, and discovered LFS. I believe this describes how you could make the transition. Easier distros: Ubuntu, Lubuntu (more similar to Windows), Mint, Mageia or OpenSUSE (it is no more OpenSuSE) would be better starting points. Debian has old packages. More difficult: Fedora (due to the security issues with SELinux crashing some programs), Gentoo, Sabayon, Arch, which is even more cutting the edge than Fedora, and which I like very much, (I have not used Slackware). First, I used it, only later, started understanding it. This seems to be the better attitude, if one starts from Windows. I believe any above can be used as host to build LFS, only you have to figure out which packages need to be installed, from LFS vii. Host System Requirements I have used Ubuntu, Lubuntu, SUSE and Mint, to build LFS. Proudly, my latest builf of LFS7.2 was with LFS7.1 host. -- []s, Fernando -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [lfs-support] Host Distribution
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: ...(continued) ...I believe this describes how you could make the transition. Easier distros: Ubuntu, Lubuntu (more similar to Windows), Mint, Mageia or OpenSUSE (it is no more OpenSuSE) would be better starting points. Debian has old packages. More difficult: Fedora (due to the security issues with SELinux crashing some programs), Gentoo, Sabayon, Arch, which is even more cutting the edge than Fedora, and which I like very much, (I have not used Slackware). First, I used it, only later, started understanding it. This seems to be the better attitude, if one starts from Windows. I believe any above can be used as host to build LFS, only you have to figure out which packages need to be installed, from LFS vii. Host System Requirements I have used Ubuntu, Lubuntu, SUSE and Mint, to build LFS. Proudly, my latest builf of LFS7.2 was with LFS7.1 host(continued) Hi Fernando, I appreciate reading your introduction and experience with GNU/Linux. It was certainly very informative. Lots to consider. Thank you very much Wally On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Fernando de Oliveira fam...@yahoo.com.br wrote: Em 26-09-2012 17:54, Wally Lepore escreveu: I will be running windows and utilizing a host distro simultaneously. Thus I am using windows for my everyday computer tasks. Yes, I do prefer to utilize a host distro to also perform my everyday computer tasks but one step at a time for me as I am slowly making the changeover. I have many applications in windows that I utilize daily and attempting to convert them all over to a 100% Linux platform would be a monumental task. I can't afford that much downtime thus running both platforms simultaneously eases the conversion process. Some years ago, I bought a notebook for my sister. She wanted Windows Vista, not XP, but computers are not easy, for her. It was used during some time without connecting to internet. One day, it blocked, as had not registered the OS. I solved the problem for her. Meanwhile, I was often reading about Linux wonders, meaning Ubuntu-8.04, from a Brazilian informatics newsletter. The incident with my sister was the drop of water. I installed Ubuntu inside Windows, to discover if I was capable of working with it: OpenOffice, Gnucash, etc, then I decided to partition the disk, for a proper Ubuntu install. I used Netscape, then Firefox and Seamonkey, so this part was not a problem I started installing packages as I did with Windows, only later understood the repository idea. Made all mistakes, having often to reinstall everything, Windows included. From this day on, Linux became my main system, Windows only for some things, until I stopped using it, other than maintaining for relatives when they came here. One day, I wanted to learn how Linux worked, after having used some other distros, and discovered LFS. I believe this describes how you could make the transition. Easier distros: Ubuntu, Lubuntu (more similar to Windows), Mint, Mageia or OpenSUSE (it is no more OpenSuSE) would be better starting points. Debian has old packages. More difficult: Fedora (due to the security issues with SELinux crashing some programs), Gentoo, Sabayon, Arch, which is even more cutting the edge than Fedora, and which I like very much, (I have not used Slackware). First, I used it, only later, started understanding it. This seems to be the better attitude, if one starts from Windows. I believe any above can be used as host to build LFS, only you have to figure out which packages need to be installed, from LFS vii. Host System Requirements I have used Ubuntu, Lubuntu, SUSE and Mint, to build LFS. Proudly, my latest builf of LFS7.2 was with LFS7.1 host. -- []s, Fernando -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [lfs-support] Host Distribution
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Debian has old packages. Hi Fernando, I understand that old packages contain programs that have been updated etc. but the Linux community seems to make this an important issue to consider when choosing a distro. What is defined as old packages'? Can you please give me an example (perhaps point to a link) and why old' packages would affect my distro choice? I'm just trying to understand. Thank you very much Wally On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Fernando de Oliveira fam...@yahoo.com.br wrote: Em 26-09-2012 17:54, Wally Lepore escreveu: I will be running windows and utilizing a host distro simultaneously. Thus I am using windows for my everyday computer tasks. Yes, I do prefer to utilize a host distro to also perform my everyday computer tasks but one step at a time for me as I am slowly making the changeover. I have many applications in windows that I utilize daily and attempting to convert them all over to a 100% Linux platform would be a monumental task. I can't afford that much downtime thus running both platforms simultaneously eases the conversion process. Some years ago, I bought a notebook for my sister. She wanted Windows Vista, not XP, but computers are not easy, for her. It was used during some time without connecting to internet. One day, it blocked, as had not registered the OS. I solved the problem for her. Meanwhile, I was often reading about Linux wonders, meaning Ubuntu-8.04, from a Brazilian informatics newsletter. The incident with my sister was the drop of water. I installed Ubuntu inside Windows, to discover if I was capable of working with it: OpenOffice, Gnucash, etc, then I decided to partition the disk, for a proper Ubuntu install. I used Netscape, then Firefox and Seamonkey, so this part was not a problem I started installing packages as I did with Windows, only later understood the repository idea. Made all mistakes, having often to reinstall everything, Windows included. From this day on, Linux became my main system, Windows only for some things, until I stopped using it, other than maintaining for relatives when they came here. One day, I wanted to learn how Linux worked, after having used some other distros, and discovered LFS. I believe this describes how you could make the transition. Easier distros: Ubuntu, Lubuntu (more similar to Windows), Mint, Mageia or OpenSUSE (it is no more OpenSuSE) would be better starting points. Debian has old packages. More difficult: Fedora (due to the security issues with SELinux crashing some programs), Gentoo, Sabayon, Arch, which is even more cutting the edge than Fedora, and which I like very much, (I have not used Slackware). First, I used it, only later, started understanding it. This seems to be the better attitude, if one starts from Windows. I believe any above can be used as host to build LFS, only you have to figure out which packages need to be installed, from LFS vii. Host System Requirements I have used Ubuntu, Lubuntu, SUSE and Mint, to build LFS. Proudly, my latest builf of LFS7.2 was with LFS7.1 host. -- []s, Fernando -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-support] gnome-power-manager
On 27.09.2012 21:03, Michael C. Robinson wrote: michael [ /usr/gnome/gnome-power-manager-3.4.0 ]$ make make all-recursive make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/gnome/gnome-power-manager-3.4.0' Making all in src make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/gnome/gnome-power-manager-3.4.0/src' make all-am make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/gnome/gnome-power-manager-3.4.0/src' make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/gnome/gnome-power-manager-3.4.0/src' make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/gnome/gnome-power-manager-3.4.0/src' Making all in po make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/gnome/gnome-power-manager-3.4.0/po' make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'. make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/gnome/gnome-power-manager-3.4.0/po' Making all in man make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/gnome/gnome-power-manager-3.4.0/man' docbook2man gnome-power-statistics.sgml /dev/null make[2]: *** [gnome-power-statistics.1] Error 8 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/gnome/gnome-power-manager-3.4.0/man' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/gnome/gnome-power-manager-3.4.0' make: *** [all] Error 2 My base system is LFS 7.1. I have docbook2man, so that probably isn't the reason for this. Let me guess, have you installed SGMLSpm Perl module? -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
[lfs-support] glibc
I got the following for gclibc, any ideas? make[1]: Leaving directory `/mnt/lfs/sources/Chapter-5/5.7._Glibc-2.16.0/glibc-2.16.0' /mnt/lfs/tools/bin/../lib/gcc/i686-lfs-linux-gnu/4.7.1/../../../../i686-lfs-linux-gnu/bin/ld: cannot find crt1.o: No such file or directory /mnt/lfs/tools/bin/../lib/gcc/i686-lfs-linux-gnu/4.7.1/../../../../i686-lfs-linux-gnu/bin/ld: cannot find crti.o: No such file or directory collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [lfs-support] glibc
Garrett Gaston wrote: I got the following for gclibc, any ideas? make[1]: Leaving directory `/mnt/lfs/sources/Chapter-5/5.7._Glibc-2.16.0/glibc-2.16.0' /mnt/lfs/tools/bin/../lib/gcc/i686-lfs-linux-gnu/4.7.1/../../../../i686-lfs-linux-gnu/bin/ld: cannot find crt1.o: No such file or directory /mnt/lfs/tools/bin/../lib/gcc/i686-lfs-linux-gnu/4.7.1/../../../../i686-lfs-linux-gnu/bin/ld: cannot find crti.o: No such file or directory collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status Those files should be in /tools/lib, but they are put there by glibc. We need more context in order to help. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [lfs-support] glibc
On 09/27/2012 06:40 PM, Garrett Gaston wrote: I got the following for gclibc, any ideas? make[1]: Leaving directory `/mnt/lfs/sources/Chapter-5/5.7._Glibc-2.16.0/glibc-2.16.0' /mnt/lfs/tools/bin/../lib/gcc/i686-lfs-linux-gnu/4.7.1/../../../../i686-lfs-linux-gnu/bin/ld: cannot find crt1.o: No such file or directory /mnt/lfs/tools/bin/../lib/gcc/i686-lfs-linux-gnu/4.7.1/../../../../i686-lfs-linux-gnu/bin/ld: cannot find crti.o: No such file or directory collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status Every time that I have run into this it was because I messed up the symlink in the root directory pointing to /mnt/lfs/tools Should be as follows ls -l / lrwxrwxrwx1 root root14 Sep 10 11:19 tools - /mnt/lfs/tools You might have lrwxrwxrwx1 root root14 Sep 10 11:19 /tools -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [lfs-support] glibc baho-utot
Thanks. Do you happen to know exactly what chapter/page of LFS that this symlink is created? Thanks. Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 19:05:01 -0400 From: baho-u...@columbus.rr.com To: lfs-support@linuxfromscratch.org Subject: Re: [lfs-support] glibc On 09/27/2012 06:40 PM, Garrett Gaston wrote: I got the following for gclibc, any ideas? make[1]: Leaving directory `/mnt/lfs/sources/Chapter-5/5.7._Glibc-2.16.0/glibc-2.16.0' /mnt/lfs/tools/bin/../lib/gcc/i686-lfs-linux-gnu/4.7.1/../../../../i686-lfs-linux-gnu/bin/ld: cannot find crt1.o: No such file or directory /mnt/lfs/tools/bin/../lib/gcc/i686-lfs-linux-gnu/4.7.1/../../../../i686-lfs-linux-gnu/bin/ld: cannot find crti.o: No such file or directory collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status Every time that I have run into this it was because I messed up the symlink in the root directory pointing to /mnt/lfs/tools Should be as follows ls -l / lrwxrwxrwx1 root root14 Sep 10 11:19 tools - /mnt/lfs/tools You might have lrwxrwxrwx1 root root14 Sep 10 11:19 /tools -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [lfs-support] glibc baho-utot
Garrett Gaston wrote: Thanks. Do you happen to know exactly what chapter/page of LFS that this symlink is created? Thanks. Section 4.2. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
