[liberationtech] FOI of NSA's cryptanalysis of DES

[Yosem Companys]

From: Alfie John 

Hi list,

Just wondering if anyone has made any attempt at FOI'ing the NSA's
cryptanalysis of DES.

Alfie
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[liberationtech] Free ebook to learn ethical hacking techniques

[Yosem Companys]

From: Sparc Flow 

Hello List,

As a way of giving back to the community, I want to share an ebook about
pentesting and ethical hacking. You can have it for free here :
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MTDLGQQ

It illustrates a (fictitious) full hacking scenario: from creating a
malicious file in a phishing campaign, all the way to exfiltrating data
from a Mainframe (while knocking off some windows domains along the way).
I obviously could not do it without the great tools and authors in this
community. Many thanks to all.
If I missed someone when crediting a tool or technique please feel free to
write me :-)

Tchuss people !

S. Flow
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Re: [liberationtech] Price of the #MuslimBan

[R. Jason Cronk]

According to this article, not of the agencies were consulted prior to
the EO. This includes the "intelligence organisms" which makes the list
seem that much more suspicious. I'm certainly not claiming the
relationship to Trump investments, but more likely a singling out of
countries that are not US partners and predominantly Muslim. 

https://lawfareblog.com/malevolence-tempered-incompetence-trumps-horrifying-executive-order-refugees-and-visas


Jason 

On 2017-01-30 19:04, Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes wrote: 

> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 6:02 PM, FL  wrote: 
> 
>> intelligence organisms.
> 
> What are "intelligence organisms? "
> 
> A couple of FACTS
> 
> Birthplace of OSAMA BIN LADIN: SAUDI ARABIA
> 
> SAUDI ARABIA is not included in the BAN
> 
> OOPS!
> 
> Best Regards | Cordiales Saludos | Grato,
> 
> Andrés L. Pacheco Sanfuentes
> 
> +1 (347) 766-5008

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Re: [liberationtech] Price of the #MuslimBan

[ernesto ortiz]

Here’s What Trump’s Immigration Order Says And How It Needs To Be Fixed:
https://t.co/GTWXRcUj3W (at thefederalist.com)


El 31/1/17 a las 1:02 a. m., FL escribió:
> I've read that that information is not completely accurate, since the 
> specific designation of the seven countries included in the infamous list was 
> made by intelligence organisms.
>
> Not that I love Trump, but I try to stay as close to the facts as possible.
>
> FL
>
>> On 30-01-2017, at 14:51, Rich Kulawiec  wrote:
>>
>> (Note the careful exemption
>> of majority-Muslim countries in which Trump owns hotels/resorts.)

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Re: [liberationtech] [activists] Stanford as a Sanctuary Campus?

[Emma Hartung]

Edit: Stanford has not declared itself a sanctuary campus or met all of
Sanctuary Now's demands, but has released a more detailed statement:
http://news.stanford.edu/2017/01/29/stanfords-support-international-undocumented-community/

2017-01-30 12:21 GMT-08:00 Emma Hartung :

> Stanford has issued a vague statement about their support for DACA and
> immigrant students, but hasn't declared itself a sanctuary campus or
> responded to Stanford Sanctuary Now's demands
> . You can get involved at an open
> meeting Tuesday (tomorrow) 7pm!
>
> --
>
> [please forward widely]
>
> With the recent executive orders and the last dozen years of xenophobia
> and deportations, it is vital that we stand up to create a pro-immigrant,
> pro-Muslim, anti-racist university. Friday, the 20th of January, several
> hundred students
> 
> presented a list of demands, crafted by Stanford Sanctuary Now, outside
> the Office of the President. This resulted in an upcoming meeting with
> Stanford administration, and we want your help.
>
> Stanford Sanctuary Now will have an open meeting Tuesday, January 31st
> from 7-8:30 in the Havana Room of the Graduate Community Center (750
> Escondido Rd). We will describe our progress, outline our proposals, and
> break out into small groups to brainstorm actions for Stanford to support
> those at risk. All are welcome. If you are new to our organization, this is
> a good opportunity to get involved. RSVP for the Facebook event
>  and share with others.
>
> We know it is a difficult time and, for many of us, it has been a
> difficult time for far too long. Join us as we continue to work for a
> better Stanford.
>
> All the Best,
> Stanford Sanctuary Now
>
> 2017-01-30 12:14 GMT-08:00 Yosem Companys :
>
>> Does anyone know what Stanford's status is?
>>
>> Yosem
>>
>>
>> From: Paula Chakravartty 
>>
>> As many of you have heard there is increasing pressure to convince the
>> administration to declare NYU a Sanctuary Campus especially given the
>> horrifying events over the weekend and beyond that has already
>> directly affected NYU students, staff and faculty.
>>
>> Here is a link to a letter in support of Sanctuary Status signed by a
>> wide range or centers and campus-based groups and organizations:
>> https://medium.com/@nyusanctuary/dear-president-hamilton-
>> 8f2a82879b98#.br5acsczn
>>
>> We have established a student-faculty Sanctuary Working Group that has
>> put together a handout explaining why Sanctuary status is important
>> both symbolically and in practice (i.e. not just a difference over
>> terminology).
>>
>> https://medium.com/@nyusanctuary/establishing-a-sanctuary-
>> campus-at-nyu-an-explainer-3182592f9a68#.sgztfdyux
>>
>> It would be great if there was efforts within MCC and across
>> Steinhardt to take leadership on supporting this call. Several
>> colleagues, graduate and undergraduate students and staff in MCC are
>> involved in these efforts.
>>
>> Thank you and all best,
>> Paula Chakravartty
>> ___
>> activists mailing list
>> activi...@lists.stanford.edu
>> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/activists
>>
>
>
>
> --
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> Stanford University | 2017
> 646.648.1181 | ehart...@stanford.edu
>



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Re: [liberationtech] Price of the #MuslimBan

[FL]

Still, we are jumping conclusions. Also consider Trump must have business 
almost on the entire world.

FL

> On 30-01-2017, at 21:04, Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes 
>  wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 6:02 PM, FL  wrote:
>> intelligence organisms.
> 
> 
> What are "intelligence organisms? "
> 
> A couple of FACTS
> 
> Birthplace of OSAMA BIN LADIN: SAUDI ARABIA
> 
> SAUDI ARABIA is not included in the BAN
> 
> 
> OOPS!
> 
> Best Regards | Cordiales Saludos | Grato,
> 
> Andrés L. Pacheco Sanfuentes
> 
> +1 (347) 766-5008
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Re: [liberationtech] Price of the #MuslimBan

[Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes]

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 6:02 PM, FL  wrote:
> intelligence organisms.


What are "intelligence organisms? "

A couple of FACTS

Birthplace of OSAMA BIN LADIN: SAUDI ARABIA

SAUDI ARABIA is not included in the BAN


OOPS!

Best Regards | Cordiales Saludos | Grato,

Andrés L. Pacheco Sanfuentes

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Re: [liberationtech] Price of the #MuslimBan

[Yosem Companys]

Also for a little laugh, check out Cantinflas crossing the wall into the
USA. It is especially funny for those of you who speak Spanish:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7mMueuIAZE

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Yosem Companys 
wrote:

> I second Doc on this one.
>
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Doc Searls <
> dsea...@cyber.law.harvard.edu> wrote:
>
>> We are in new territory here, and need to be careful with
>> characterization—and much more.
>>
>> A few days ago I spoke with a woman I know, a hard-core Orange County
>> (CA) Republican, who held her nose when she voted for Trump. Also a good
>> Catholic, she now prays every day for the country, "because he's crazy."
>> Yet when I asked her how she would vote if the election were today, her
>> answer was "I could never vote for that woman." Would she still vote for
>> Trump? "I don't know," she said.
>>
>> The Times reports a hotel hacked and shaken down for bitcoin, : <
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/30/world/europe/hotel-austr
>> ia-bitcoin-ransom.html> The Verge reports that other reports weren’t
>> quite true: > -hotel-bitcoin-ransom-ransomware>. Bottom line that isn’t: it’s
>> complicated. And there are many "its."
>>
>> No doubt Trump and his boy Bannon are expert at understanding and playing
>> their opponents, which happen to be the news media on which most of the
>> rest of us rely. I could go on about that, the problems here are obvious.
>> As for the consequences, we only see the early and immediate ones, and much
>> of those are (for all their good intentions) knee-jerk blowback.
>>
>> So I caution everybody to take as sober, removed, informed and considered
>> a view as possible—and to avoid falling into the default grooves of thought
>> and sympathy. We all need to be broader than that, just to begin to get
>> handles on what’s going on, then what to do.
>>
>> My 2¢ anyway, on one Monday morning.
>>
>> doc
>>
>> > On Jan 30, 2017, at 10:35 AM, ernesto ortiz 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > El 30/1/17 a las 6:51 p. m., Rich Kulawiec escribió:
>> >>> I've tried to avoid commenting too much on Trump's election to avoid
>> >>> demonizing Republicans and people in my network who support him.
>> >> And that's fine, and noble, and nice of you.  But understand very,
>> >> VERY clearly: they will not hesitate to do that to you.
>> > Really? Are you sure that Republicans here -all of them- are so bad that
>> > undoubtedly do not hesitate to demonize the others? That's precisely the
>> > typical scheme of someone who demonise the people just for having a
>> > different ideology or creed.
>> >>
>> >> If you're not a (a) white (b) Christian (c) American citizen then
>> you're
>> >> going to be targeted.  It's not a question of "if", only of "when".
>> >> (And some people who are all three will be targeted anyway: women,
>> >> LBGTQ, journalists, academics, scientists come to mind immediately.)
>> >>
>> >>  When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag
>> >>  and carrying a cross.
>> >>  --- Sinclair Lewis
>> >>
>> >> This current episode is just a test to see what kind of reaction
>> ensues.
>> >> It's a probe for weaknesses.  It has NOTHING to do with stopping
>> terrorism:
>> >> in fact, it's designed to increase the probability of attacks --
>> because
>> >> that will make subsequent steps much easier.  (Note the careful
>> exemption
>> >> of majority-Muslim countries in which Trump owns hotels/resorts.)
>> >>
>> >> ---rsk
>> >
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Re: [liberationtech] Price of the #MuslimBan

[Yosem Companys]

I second Doc on this one.

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Doc Searls 
wrote:

> We are in new territory here, and need to be careful with
> characterization—and much more.
>
> A few days ago I spoke with a woman I know, a hard-core Orange County (CA)
> Republican, who held her nose when she voted for Trump. Also a good
> Catholic, she now prays every day for the country, "because he's crazy."
> Yet when I asked her how she would vote if the election were today, her
> answer was "I could never vote for that woman." Would she still vote for
> Trump? "I don't know," she said.
>
> The Times reports a hotel hacked and shaken down for bitcoin, : <
> https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/30/world/europe/hotel-
> austria-bitcoin-ransom.html> The Verge reports that other reports weren’t
> quite true:  austrian-hotel-bitcoin-ransom-ransomware>. Bottom line that isn’t: it’s
> complicated. And there are many "its."
>
> No doubt Trump and his boy Bannon are expert at understanding and playing
> their opponents, which happen to be the news media on which most of the
> rest of us rely. I could go on about that, the problems here are obvious.
> As for the consequences, we only see the early and immediate ones, and much
> of those are (for all their good intentions) knee-jerk blowback.
>
> So I caution everybody to take as sober, removed, informed and considered
> a view as possible—and to avoid falling into the default grooves of thought
> and sympathy. We all need to be broader than that, just to begin to get
> handles on what’s going on, then what to do.
>
> My 2¢ anyway, on one Monday morning.
>
> doc
>
> > On Jan 30, 2017, at 10:35 AM, ernesto ortiz 
> wrote:
> >
> > El 30/1/17 a las 6:51 p. m., Rich Kulawiec escribió:
> >>> I've tried to avoid commenting too much on Trump's election to avoid
> >>> demonizing Republicans and people in my network who support him.
> >> And that's fine, and noble, and nice of you.  But understand very,
> >> VERY clearly: they will not hesitate to do that to you.
> > Really? Are you sure that Republicans here -all of them- are so bad that
> > undoubtedly do not hesitate to demonize the others? That's precisely the
> > typical scheme of someone who demonise the people just for having a
> > different ideology or creed.
> >>
> >> If you're not a (a) white (b) Christian (c) American citizen then you're
> >> going to be targeted.  It's not a question of "if", only of "when".
> >> (And some people who are all three will be targeted anyway: women,
> >> LBGTQ, journalists, academics, scientists come to mind immediately.)
> >>
> >>  When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag
> >>  and carrying a cross.
> >>  --- Sinclair Lewis
> >>
> >> This current episode is just a test to see what kind of reaction ensues.
> >> It's a probe for weaknesses.  It has NOTHING to do with stopping
> terrorism:
> >> in fact, it's designed to increase the probability of attacks -- because
> >> that will make subsequent steps much easier.  (Note the careful
> exemption
> >> of majority-Muslim countries in which Trump owns hotels/resorts.)
> >>
> >> ---rsk
> >
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Re: [liberationtech] Price of the #MuslimBan

[Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes]

TIme to read "The Awakening," by Kate Chopin

Last night at DFW airport I saw so many Muslim women with their
children, little girls handing out little cards with THANK YOU or
LOADS OF THANKS or TONS OF SUPPORT colorfully written on them, to
people that had gone there to stand with the Muslims.

Another kid wrote a sign on the spot: Let's build a wall around TRUMP
and I'll pay for it! - when I told the father that it may be a bit
expensive, considering Trump's EGO size, he said: we'll surely have
plenty of help!.

Bottom Line: Trump is awakening the political conscience of this
country like noone before, and once you light that match it spreads
like wildfire

Best Regards | Cordiales Saludos | Grato,

Andrés L. Pacheco Sanfuentes

+1 (347) 766-5008


On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 2:50 PM, José María Mateos  wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Doc Searls
>  wrote:
>> No doubt Trump and his boy Bannon
>
> Or the other way around, I am still not sure.
>
> JMM.
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Re: [liberationtech] Price of the #MuslimBan

[José María Mateos]

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Doc Searls
 wrote:
> No doubt Trump and his boy Bannon

Or the other way around, I am still not sure.

JMM.
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Re: [liberationtech] [activists] Stanford as a Sanctuary Campus?

[Emma Hartung]

Stanford has issued a vague statement about their support for DACA and
immigrant students, but hasn't declared itself a sanctuary campus or
responded to Stanford Sanctuary Now's demands
. You can get involved at an open
meeting Tuesday (tomorrow) 7pm!

--

[please forward widely]

With the recent executive orders and the last dozen years of xenophobia and
deportations, it is vital that we stand up to create a pro-immigrant,
pro-Muslim, anti-racist university. Friday, the 20th of January, several
hundred students

presented a list of demands, crafted by Stanford Sanctuary Now, outside the
Office of the President. This resulted in an upcoming meeting with Stanford
administration, and we want your help.

Stanford Sanctuary Now will have an open meeting Tuesday, January 31st from
7-8:30 in the Havana Room of the Graduate Community Center (750 Escondido
Rd). We will describe our progress, outline our proposals, and break out
into small groups to brainstorm actions for Stanford to support those at
risk. All are welcome. If you are new to our organization, this is a good
opportunity to get involved. RSVP for the Facebook event
 and share with others.

We know it is a difficult time and, for many of us, it has been a difficult
time for far too long. Join us as we continue to work for a better Stanford.

All the Best,
Stanford Sanctuary Now

2017-01-30 12:14 GMT-08:00 Yosem Companys :

> Does anyone know what Stanford's status is?
>
> Yosem
>
>
> From: Paula Chakravartty 
>
> As many of you have heard there is increasing pressure to convince the
> administration to declare NYU a Sanctuary Campus especially given the
> horrifying events over the weekend and beyond that has already
> directly affected NYU students, staff and faculty.
>
> Here is a link to a letter in support of Sanctuary Status signed by a
> wide range or centers and campus-based groups and organizations:
> https://medium.com/@nyusanctuary/dear-president-hamilton-8f2a82879b98#.
> br5acsczn
>
> We have established a student-faculty Sanctuary Working Group that has
> put together a handout explaining why Sanctuary status is important
> both symbolically and in practice (i.e. not just a difference over
> terminology).
>
> https://medium.com/@nyusanctuary/establishing-a-
> sanctuary-campus-at-nyu-an-explainer-3182592f9a68#.sgztfdyux
>
> It would be great if there was efforts within MCC and across
> Steinhardt to take leadership on supporting this call. Several
> colleagues, graduate and undergraduate students and staff in MCC are
> involved in these efforts.
>
> Thank you and all best,
> Paula Chakravartty
> ___
> activists mailing list
> activi...@lists.stanford.edu
> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/activists
>



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Re: [liberationtech] Price of the #MuslimBan

[Doc Searls]

We are in new territory here, and need to be careful with characterization—and 
much more.

A few days ago I spoke with a woman I know, a hard-core Orange County (CA) 
Republican, who held her nose when she voted for Trump. Also a good Catholic, 
she now prays every day for the country, "because he's crazy." Yet when I asked 
her how she would vote if the election were today, her answer was "I could 
never vote for that woman." Would she still vote for Trump? "I don't know," she 
said.

The Times reports a hotel hacked and shaken down for bitcoin, : 

 The Verge reports that other reports weren’t quite true: 
.
 Bottom line that isn’t: it’s complicated. And there are many "its."

No doubt Trump and his boy Bannon are expert at understanding and playing their 
opponents, which happen to be the news media on which most of the rest of us 
rely. I could go on about that, the problems here are obvious. As for the 
consequences, we only see the early and immediate ones, and much of those are 
(for all their good intentions) knee-jerk blowback.

So I caution everybody to take as sober, removed, informed and considered a 
view as possible—and to avoid falling into the default grooves of thought and 
sympathy. We all need to be broader than that, just to begin to get handles on 
what’s going on, then what to do.

My 2¢ anyway, on one Monday morning.

doc

> On Jan 30, 2017, at 10:35 AM, ernesto ortiz  wrote:
> 
> El 30/1/17 a las 6:51 p. m., Rich Kulawiec escribió:
>>> I've tried to avoid commenting too much on Trump's election to avoid
>>> demonizing Republicans and people in my network who support him.
>> And that's fine, and noble, and nice of you.  But understand very,
>> VERY clearly: they will not hesitate to do that to you.
> Really? Are you sure that Republicans here -all of them- are so bad that
> undoubtedly do not hesitate to demonize the others? That's precisely the
> typical scheme of someone who demonise the people just for having a
> different ideology or creed.
>> 
>> If you're not a (a) white (b) Christian (c) American citizen then you're
>> going to be targeted.  It's not a question of "if", only of "when".
>> (And some people who are all three will be targeted anyway: women,
>> LBGTQ, journalists, academics, scientists come to mind immediately.)
>> 
>>  When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag
>>  and carrying a cross.
>>  --- Sinclair Lewis
>> 
>> This current episode is just a test to see what kind of reaction ensues.
>> It's a probe for weaknesses.  It has NOTHING to do with stopping terrorism:
>> in fact, it's designed to increase the probability of attacks -- because
>> that will make subsequent steps much easier.  (Note the careful exemption
>> of majority-Muslim countries in which Trump owns hotels/resorts.)
>> 
>> ---rsk
> 
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[liberationtech] Stanford as a Sanctuary Campus?

[Yosem Companys]

Does anyone know what Stanford's status is?

Yosem


From: Paula Chakravartty 

As many of you have heard there is increasing pressure to convince the
administration to declare NYU a Sanctuary Campus especially given the
horrifying events over the weekend and beyond that has already
directly affected NYU students, staff and faculty.

Here is a link to a letter in support of Sanctuary Status signed by a
wide range or centers and campus-based groups and organizations:
https://medium.com/@nyusanctuary/dear-president-hamilton-8f2a82879b98#.br5acsczn

We have established a student-faculty Sanctuary Working Group that has
put together a handout explaining why Sanctuary status is important
both symbolically and in practice (i.e. not just a difference over
terminology).

https://medium.com/@nyusanctuary/establishing-a-sanctuary-campus-at-nyu-an-explainer-3182592f9a68#.sgztfdyux

It would be great if there was efforts within MCC and across
Steinhardt to take leadership on supporting this call. Several
colleagues, graduate and undergraduate students and staff in MCC are
involved in these efforts.

Thank you and all best,
Paula Chakravartty
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Re: [liberationtech] Price of the #MuslimBan

[ernesto ortiz]

Some people think that hiring 1 refugees is above all (and without
other consideration) an act of compassion; some others think that to do
it per se (without meditate the pros and cons) is an act of
irresponsibility. As remarked by Yosem Companys, the reality and our
thinkings (and feelings) are not (usually) black or white. We should
avoid to make a war in the name (or with the guns) of our absolute point
of view.


El 30/1/17 a las 8:33 p. m., Rich Kulawiec escribió:
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 07:35:40PM +0100, ernesto ortiz wrote:
>> Really? Are you sure that Republicans here -all of them- are so bad that
>> undoubtedly do not hesitate to demonize the others? 
> I am quite certain that Trump's supporters (which is the set of people
> I'm talking about and is clearly a set that only partially overlaps
> "Republicans") will do exactly that because they have been saying so,
> very loudly, very often, very unmistakably, for a long time.  And you
> know what?  I take them at their word.  I believe them.
>
> Have you not been listening?
>
> ---rsk
>
> p.s. They're doing it again RIGHT NOW, as you're reading this.
> They're thrashing Starbucks because the CEO announced that they would
> hire 10,000 refugees over the next 5 years.  Now we could all nitpick
> that (and we probably will) but at least it's an attempt to do
> something humane and decent and compassionate.  Consider carefully
> what kind of a person has a problem with that and then tell me how
> I could possibly demonize them any more than they already have.
>

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Re: [liberationtech] Price of the #MuslimBan

[Rich Kulawiec]

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 07:35:40PM +0100, ernesto ortiz wrote:
> Really? Are you sure that Republicans here -all of them- are so bad that
> undoubtedly do not hesitate to demonize the others? 

I am quite certain that Trump's supporters (which is the set of people
I'm talking about and is clearly a set that only partially overlaps
"Republicans") will do exactly that because they have been saying so,
very loudly, very often, very unmistakably, for a long time.  And you
know what?  I take them at their word.  I believe them.

Have you not been listening?

---rsk

p.s. They're doing it again RIGHT NOW, as you're reading this.
They're thrashing Starbucks because the CEO announced that they would
hire 10,000 refugees over the next 5 years.  Now we could all nitpick
that (and we probably will) but at least it's an attempt to do
something humane and decent and compassionate.  Consider carefully
what kind of a person has a problem with that and then tell me how
I could possibly demonize them any more than they already have.

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Re: [liberationtech] Price of the #MuslimBan

[Yosem Companys]

There are good Democrats and bad Democrats. There are good Republicans and
bad Republicans. And then everyone, depending on their idiosyncratic
backgrounds and experiences, has their definition of what good and bad is.

The truth is that people -- Democrats or Republicans, Greens or
Libertarians -- are just those affected by circumstances and trying to do
the best they can under those circumstances or take advantage of them.

The truth is that people are complicated: As we know from psychology,
people have biases -- they sometimes hold seemingly contradictory and
conflicting political views.

For example, Antonin Scalia was despised by liberals for his conservatism
but did a lot to protect privacy rights. The Koch family gives a lot to the
arts and cancer research but funds conservative causes.

Nothing is black or white.

That brings us to President Trump: President Trump has managed to annoy
most of the country and the world, many Republicans and Democrats included.
He is a bit of an enigma. His policies are neither traditionally Republican
nor traditionally Democratic.

Social psychology teaches us that people form in-groups and out-groups.
People in in-groups form bonds of attachment and support with each other.
People in out-groups are often demonized if they don't conform to certain
political views. People in in-groups create their own beliefs about the
out-groups and judge them accordingly, whether rightly or wrongly. In
today's parlance, you could call some of these beliefs "fake news."

But people are typically more complex than their orthodox views. And, when
they are forced to choose, they can always opt to withdraw.

As far as I can tell, Republicans and Democrats pretty much hate each other
on everything except on the need to have a strong foreign policy and strong
military and become involved in foreign entanglements around the world.

As Eisenhower warned,

"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of
unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military
industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced
power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this
combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take
nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel
the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense
with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may
prosper together."

Eisenhower also said,

"Down the long lane of the history yet to be written America knows that
this world of ours, ever growing smaller, must avoid becoming a community
of dreadful fear and hate, and be instead, a proud confederation of mutual
trust and respect. Such a confederation must be one of equals. The weakest
must come to the conference table with the same confidence as do we,
protected as we are by our moral, economic, and military strength."

"To all the peoples of the world, I once more give expression to America's
prayerful and continuing aspiration: We pray that peoples of all faiths,
all races, all nations, may have their great human needs satisfied; that
those now denied opportunity shall come to enjoy it to the full; that all
who yearn for freedom may experience its spiritual blessings; that those
who have freedom will understand, also, its heavy responsibilities; that
all who are insensitive to the needs of others will learn charity; that the
scourges of poverty, disease and ignorance will be made to disappear from
the earth, and that, in the goodness of time, all peoples will come to live
together in a peace guaranteed by the binding force of mutual respect and
love."

From: http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~hst306/documents/indust.html

This message should bring us all together regardless of political
orientation, creed, religion, gender, race, ethnicity, and so on.

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:35 AM, ernesto ortiz 
wrote:

>
> El 30/1/17 a las 6:51 p. m., Rich Kulawiec escribió:
> >> I've tried to avoid commenting too much on Trump's election to avoid
> >> demonizing Republicans and people in my network who support him.
> > And that's fine, and noble, and nice of you.  But understand very,
> > VERY clearly: they will not hesitate to do that to you.
> Really? Are you sure that Republicans here -all of them- are so bad that
> undoubtedly do not hesitate to demonize the others? That's precisely the
> typical scheme of someone who demonise the people just for having a
> different ideology or creed.
> >
> > If you're not a (a) white (b) Christian (c) American citizen then you're
> > going to be targeted.  It's not a question of "if", only of "when".
> > (And some people who are all three will be targeted anyway: women,
> > LBGTQ, journalists, academics, scientists come to mind immediately.)
> >
> >   When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag
> >   and carrying a cross.
> >   --- 

Re: [liberationtech] Price of the #MuslimBan

[Rich Kulawiec]

> I've tried to avoid commenting too much on Trump's election to avoid
> demonizing Republicans and people in my network who support him.

And that's fine, and noble, and nice of you.  But understand very,
VERY clearly: they will not hesitate to do that to you.

If you're not a (a) white (b) Christian (c) American citizen then you're
going to be targeted.  It's not a question of "if", only of "when".
(And some people who are all three will be targeted anyway: women,
LBGTQ, journalists, academics, scientists come to mind immediately.)

When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag
and carrying a cross.
--- Sinclair Lewis

This current episode is just a test to see what kind of reaction ensues.
It's a probe for weaknesses.  It has NOTHING to do with stopping terrorism:
in fact, it's designed to increase the probability of attacks -- because
that will make subsequent steps much easier.  (Note the careful exemption
of majority-Muslim countries in which Trump owns hotels/resorts.)

---rsk
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Re: [liberationtech] DRL Internet Freedom pages hit the memory hole

[The Doctor]

https://www.humanrights.gov/dyn/issues/internet-freedom.html is showing up
right now.  I did a quick visual comparison to the latest copy at the
Archive, and they seem to match up.

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No PGP signature, so this may not be me.  Is it?

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 8:32 AM, Griffin Boyce 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>   This morning, a colleague visited the DRL website only to find that the
> content had been deleted.  I checked another page and found it had was no
> longer available.
>
> - https://www.state.gov/netfreedom/index.htm
> - https://www.humanrights.gov/issues/internet-freedom/
>
>   So... yeah... That's bad.  =(  Guess the fascists figured out this whole
> "free speech" thing wasn't working out for them.
>
> ~Griffin
>
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Re: [liberationtech] DRL Internet Freedom pages hit the memory hole

[R. Jason Cronk]

I'm still seeing it on the government website. 

https://www.humanrights.gov/dyn/issues/internet-freedom.html 

Jason 

On 2017-01-30 11:54, Jayne Cravens wrote: 

> On 2017-01-30 08:32, Griffin Boyce wrote: 
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> This morning, a colleague visited the DRL website only to find that
>> the content had been deleted.  I checked another page and found it had
>> was no longer available.
>> 
>> - https://www.state.gov/netfreedom/index.htm
>> - https://www.humanrights.gov/issues/internet-freedom/
> 
> Thank goodness for archive.org!
> 
> http://web.archive.org/web/20161120012233/http://www.humanrights.gov/dyn/issues/internet-freedom.html
> 
> http://web.archive.org/web/20161203214623/http://www.humanrights.gov/dyn/issues/internet-freedom.html
> 
> I notice the search function on the DRL website doesn't work - it says
> these pages are there, but when you click on the link -  nope.
> 
> ---
> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
> Ms. Jayne Cravens MSc
> Portland, Oregon, USA
> 
> The web site - http://www.coyotecommunications.com
> The email - j...@coyotecommunications.com
> Me on Twitter, other social networks, & my blog:
> http://www.coyotecommunications.com/me/jayneonline.shtml
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> More about the book, and how to buy it
> (as a paperback or as an e-book):
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-- 
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CIPM, CIPT, CIPP/US, PbD Ambassador
PRIVACY AND TRUST CONSULTANT
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Re: [liberationtech] DRL Internet Freedom pages hit the memory hole

[The Doctor]

Pages and data are disappearing faster than we can archive them.  Did
anybody notice the page for the Judicial Branch vanished from whitehouse.gov
yesterday?

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On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 8:54 AM, Jayne Cravens 
wrote:

> On 2017-01-30 08:32, Griffin Boyce wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>   This morning, a colleague visited the DRL website only to find that
>> the content had been deleted.  I checked another page and found it had
>> was no longer available.
>>
>> - https://www.state.gov/netfreedom/index.htm
>> - https://www.humanrights.gov/issues/internet-freedom/
>>
>
> Thank goodness for archive.org!
>
> http://web.archive.org/web/20161120012233/http://www.humanri
> ghts.gov/dyn/issues/internet-freedom.html
>
> http://web.archive.org/web/20161203214623/http://www.humanri
> ghts.gov/dyn/issues/internet-freedom.html
>
> I notice the search function on the DRL website doesn't work - it says
> these pages are there, but when you click on the link -  nope.
>
> ---
> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
> Ms. Jayne Cravens MSc
> Portland, Oregon, USA
>
> The web site - http://www.coyotecommunications.com
> The email - j...@coyotecommunications.com
> Me on Twitter, other social networks, & my blog:
> http://www.coyotecommunications.com/me/jayneonline.shtml
>
> Author: The Last Virtual Volunteering Guidebook
> More about the book, and how to buy it
> (as a paperback or as an e-book):
> http://www.energizeinc.com/store/1-222-E-1
>
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Re: [liberationtech] DRL Internet Freedom pages hit the memory hole

[Jayne Cravens]

On 2017-01-30 08:32, Griffin Boyce wrote:

Hi all,

  This morning, a colleague visited the DRL website only to find that
the content had been deleted.  I checked another page and found it had
was no longer available.

- https://www.state.gov/netfreedom/index.htm
- https://www.humanrights.gov/issues/internet-freedom/


Thank goodness for archive.org!

http://web.archive.org/web/20161120012233/http://www.humanrights.gov/dyn/issues/internet-freedom.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20161203214623/http://www.humanrights.gov/dyn/issues/internet-freedom.html

I notice the search function on the DRL website doesn't work - it says 
these pages are there, but when you click on the link -  nope.


---
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
Ms. Jayne Cravens MSc
Portland, Oregon, USA

The web site - http://www.coyotecommunications.com
The email - j...@coyotecommunications.com
Me on Twitter, other social networks, & my blog:
http://www.coyotecommunications.com/me/jayneonline.shtml

Author: The Last Virtual Volunteering Guidebook
More about the book, and how to buy it
(as a paperback or as an e-book):
http://www.energizeinc.com/store/1-222-E-1
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Re: [liberationtech] DRL Internet Freedom pages hit the memory hole

[Griffin Boyce]

On 2017-01-30 11:44, Collin Anderson wrote:

Google cache indicates it was up yesterday, with references to Sec.
Kerry and Ambassador Power, etc. Humanrights.gov looks like a complete
mess overall right now, so perhaps what we are seeing in an artifact
of transition rather than a purging according to policy?


  Normally, that would be my guess, but a colleague was directed to that 
page by DRL for something specific, which to me implies that maybe DRL 
didn't know.  But that's just speculation on my part.


~Griffin
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Re: [liberationtech] DRL Internet Freedom pages hit the memory hole

[Collin Anderson]

Google cache indicates it was up yesterday, with references to Sec. Kerry
and Ambassador Power, etc. Humanrights.gov looks like a complete mess
overall right now, so perhaps what we are seeing in an artifact of
transition rather than a purging according to policy?

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.humanrights.gov%2Fissues%2Finternet-freedom%2F=cache%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.humanrights.gov%2Fissues%2Finternet-freedom%2F=chrome..69i57j69i58.1544j0j4=chrome=UTF-8

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 11:32 AM, Griffin Boyce 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>   This morning, a colleague visited the DRL website only to find that the
> content had been deleted.  I checked another page and found it had was no
> longer available.
>
> - https://www.state.gov/netfreedom/index.htm
> - https://www.humanrights.gov/issues/internet-freedom/
>
>   So... yeah... That's bad.  =(  Guess the fascists figured out this whole
> "free speech" thing wasn't working out for them.
>
> ~Griffin
>
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[liberationtech] DRL Internet Freedom pages hit the memory hole

[Griffin Boyce]

Hi all,

  This morning, a colleague visited the DRL website only to find that 
the content had been deleted.  I checked another page and found it had 
was no longer available.


- https://www.state.gov/netfreedom/index.htm
- https://www.humanrights.gov/issues/internet-freedom/

  So... yeah... That's bad.  =(  Guess the fascists figured out this 
whole "free speech" thing wasn't working out for them.


~Griffin

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Re: [liberationtech] A research about the ICT infrastructure

[Thomas Ball]

Luciano Floridi's foundational work in ethics and ICTs is among the best
thinking out there. Watch this video on 'Ethics in the Age of Information'
given to the Alan Turing Institute or get his book *The Fourth Revolution*.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEvyHf7xJa0

Thomas Ball

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 6:56 AM, Amin Sabeti  wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> Currently, I'm working on a research about how the ICT infrastructure
> could help suppressive governments around the world to prosecute its
> citizens.
>
> As I am in the initial stage of the research, I need someone(s) who can
> help me to create a list with details that how the ICT infrastructure
> (i.e. Telecommunication Company) can help a government to collect data
> against its citizen and prosecute them.
>
> I appreciate if someone in this list can help me regarding this research.
> You can contact me via aminsabeti [at] gmail [dot] com.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Amin
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[liberationtech] A research about the ICT infrastructure

[Amin Sabeti]

Hi folks,

Currently, I'm working on a research about how the ICT infrastructure could
help suppressive governments around the world to prosecute its citizens.

As I am in the initial stage of the research, I need someone(s) who can
help me to create a list with details that how the ICT infrastructure
(i.e. Telecommunication Company) can help a government to collect data
against its citizen and prosecute them.

I appreciate if someone in this list can help me regarding this research.
You can contact me via aminsabeti [at] gmail [dot] com.

Thanks,

Amin
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