Re: [liberationtech] InvestigatingTrump.com

[Jay Cafasso]

I get enough politics from Facebook. Generalized statements about any
government leader is baloney. A specific issue is one thing. Not having a
common frame of reference i. e. the temporary ban from specific middle east
countries only shows the lack of understanding regarding that topic.

Since you opened the door. The ban is temporary. The vetting issue was
raised by the US DNI, D/FBI, D/CIA during Congressional testimonies during
the Obama presidency. These security people thought a temporary halt so
that the vetting process could be reviewed would be justified.

Why did they say that? Because since 911, 20 immigrants/refugees notably
from Iraq have been arrested by the FBI for conspiracy to commit terrorism.

Of course you do not hear that from the babbling idiots we here in the
States call a free press. I know this because part of my career involved
chemical EOD operations in support of counterterrorism contracted to the US
Government.

If your good at a specific science. Stay there otherwise without a common
frame of reference you'll make a fool of yourself.

I have problems with President Trump and his view of pipelines under major
rivers and his lack of concern for the environment.  Otherwise he is and
will be no worse than the last six presidents.

Regards...



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On Feb 5, 2017 23:50, "Yosem Companys" <compa...@tmp.ucsb.edu> wrote:

> The list is about using technology to promote democracy, development, and
> help vulnerable populations, among other things. Some see U.S. President
> Trump as inimical to these goals, especially with his immigrant ban, just
> as there have been many conversations on the list about former U.S.
> President Obama using technology for surveillance.
>
> On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 9:41 PM, Jay Cafasso <jay.cafa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Stupid shit! This listserv is getting further and further away from what
>> it's stated purpose was to be. What's next ? UFO sightings?
>>
>> Jay Cafasso
>> 12559 N400E
>> Wheatfield, IN 46392 USA
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>> www.facebook.com/jay.cafasso.7
>> Robin Storm SIT - A WRN Ambassador
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>> "The last temptation is the greatest treason: To do the right deed for
>> the wrong reason."   Murder in the Cathedral - St. Thomas Becket.
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>> On Feb 5, 2017 22:39, "Yosem Companys" <compa...@tmp.ucsb.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Michael Ravnitzky <mike...@verizon.net>
>>>
>>> Investigative Reporter Peter Lance has started a website called:
>>>
>>> http://www.InvestigatingTrump.com
>>>
>>> Michael Ravnitzky
>>> mike...@verizon.net
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Re: [liberationtech] InvestigatingTrump.com

[Jay Cafasso]

Stupid shit! This listserv is getting further and further away from what
it's stated purpose was to be. What's next ? UFO sightings?

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On Feb 5, 2017 22:39, "Yosem Companys" <compa...@tmp.ucsb.edu> wrote:

> From: Michael Ravnitzky <mike...@verizon.net>
>
> Investigative Reporter Peter Lance has started a website called:
>
> http://www.InvestigatingTrump.com
>
> Michael Ravnitzky
> mike...@verizon.net
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Re: [liberationtech] Report: Messenger apps during humanitarian crises

[Jay Cafasso]

Does anyone know how secure Signal is as a messenger app?


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On Feb 1, 2017 09:22, "Steven Clift" <cl...@e-democracy.org> wrote:

See:
https://engn.it/appsreport


In some situations, messaging apps may be the only way that people caught
up in armed conflict or crises can communicate with family, friends or
humanitarian organisations. Many messaging apps have features that could
help humanitarian organisations to reach people who would otherwise be
impossible to contact, or to collect information that would otherwise be
inaccessible. This information can save lives.

Some humanitarian organisations have already started using messaging apps
to communicate with people and coordinate their activities – and many
others are thinking about it. But there’s still a lot that we don’t know.

How and why are people affected by crises or armed conflict actually using
messaging apps? When and how is it appropriate to introduce a new
technology that not everyone will be able to access? Could communicating
with people through these communication channels put them at greater risk?



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Re: [liberationtech] Price of the #MuslimBan

[Jay Cafasso]

I am reading all the posts and trying to understand why most are going off
topic for what this listserv was meant for?

I am also peaked on how many of you who are posting do not understand the
law and/or seem very biased politically. Since you have strayed off topic,
I have to wonder where everyone has been with last five presidents who have
done the same thing with EO? Yes there could have been better execution of
the Trumps EO and yes I believe we made a big mistake after 911 when we
created DHS. However as soon as Secretary Kelly was notified about the
issues he immediately corrected and clarified the order.

While folk believe this is a "Muslim ban". I do not believe such since a
couple of the largest Muslim countries were not part of the ban. Notably
Saudi Arabia and Indonesia. I would like someone to explain to me why any
administration cannot, based on national security revoke either temporarily
or permanently a Visa or Green Card? Forget morally as an answer. While
noble it's a very naive position and belief.

So why are you protesting? And do you have a double standard in your belief
since 90% of you did not even raise the question when the last
administration did the same?

So what are you really protesting?

Jay



On Jan 30, 2017 11:51, "Rich Kulawiec"  wrote:

> > I've tried to avoid commenting too much on Trump's election to avoid
> > demonizing Republicans and people in my network who support him.
>
> And that's fine, and noble, and nice of you.  But understand very,
> VERY clearly: they will not hesitate to do that to you.
>
> If you're not a (a) white (b) Christian (c) American citizen then you're
> going to be targeted.  It's not a question of "if", only of "when".
> (And some people who are all three will be targeted anyway: women,
> LBGTQ, journalists, academics, scientists come to mind immediately.)
>
> When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag
> and carrying a cross.
> --- Sinclair Lewis
>
> This current episode is just a test to see what kind of reaction ensues.
> It's a probe for weaknesses.  It has NOTHING to do with stopping terrorism:
> in fact, it's designed to increase the probability of attacks -- because
> that will make subsequent steps much easier.  (Note the careful exemption
> of majority-Muslim countries in which Trump owns hotels/resorts.)
>
> ---rsk
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