Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?!

[Inna Malina]

 

In Canada we can go public and can have protection from the authorities
(though I can guarantee opponents can be rather nasty here too) , in
countries with the record of human rights abuse, activists will likely
face immediate persecution. Therefore, they will keep those cases
private and try open new accounts etc. I will see how it goes and what
resources and support I might have available for challenging Facebook
legally. I think it would help improve Facebook policies and procedures
and help activists around the world who don't have the luxury of
protection we might have in Canada. 

The guy who wrote here saying he is from Facebook is the only real
person (if it is Facebook in fact) that came forward. I don't have any
other contacts in FB. 

When I signed in 2007 the rules were different and they have changed
over the years. I personally had no idea about such policies and ID
requirements until being blocked on request of opponents. 

Facebook obviously does not have any real HelpDesk with available
customer support to deal with those cases and automatically favours the
accuser whether it is a legitimate report or not. Then it requires IDs
from those targeted and I question legality of these procedures. They
need to invest into HelpDesk and real people to deal with the reports. I
think it is pretty obvious that if an account opened in last month with
2 friends, no timeline activity reports other accounts, which have been
for years, with tons of friends and photos, there is something wrong
with penalizing the real accounts/people. There should be other ways to
prove that it is someone's account without mining government or other
photo/birth-date IDs. 

If people have been writing and creating petitions with many thousands
signed urging Facebook to stop political blocking and discriminatory
practices, there is something to it. 

 I am sorry I am not an expert on online social software and won't be
useful there, but will definitely support others who are capable. 

Thank you for everyone's insights and help. It is much appreciated. 

So far no media inquiries and my account is still blocked. I tried
alternative account it was blocked as well asking my ID. 

Will keep you posted if there are developments, 

Inna 

On 2015-07-05 10:29 am, hellekin wrote: 

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> On 07/04/2015 03:30 PM, Heather Akers-Healy wrote:
> 
>> Facebook has 1.19 billion monthly active users, making it the largest 
>> community on Earth. Activists will need to use it
> 
> *** I'm sorry but I think the opposite: first Facebook is not a
> community but a large collection of people, unless you consider a
> community as a dead society: one that cannot evolve on its own;
> 
> second, matching online persona with govern-mental ID is Facebook's
> business: this is how they're "valued" so much--and that's an
> anti-privacy feature;
> 
> third, if activists would be serious about preserving their privacy,
> they would support the activists making privacy-by-design online social
> software instead of begging a private surveillance company to help them.
> When activists prefer accepting "privacy policies" that denies them
> their privacy, to supporting decentralized and distributed alternatives
> to Facebook, they should be conscious of the consequences of their
> choice: unfortunately this seems to be happening in tragic circumstances
> .
> 
> Now that your network has been compromised, Inna, you can only trust
> that your ID won't fall into the hands of your opponents when you
> transmit it to Facebook, or that Facebook will make an exception for
> you, which would jeopardize their future claim for "Real Names".
> 
> By accepting their conditions, you accepted to relinquish your privacy,
> and the privacy of all the people in contact with you. No matter what
> privacy activists do, people prefer easy to prudent. That's what happens
> .
> 
> Steve Weis' response, if he's really working at Facebook, demonstrates
> the inanity of Facebook to support activism: the mail should have come
> from a Facebook domain, be signed with a PGP key, and not ask for "a
> membership card". This person, besides its alleged good intention, has
> no clue what he's talking about.
> 
> In your situation Inna, I would send a private message to known Facebook
> employees working in the security department using encrypted messages.
> If you can prove to them that you own the account, it should work,
> bypassing the stupid company policy: that would be an acceptable way for
> Facebook to "have it" without making official statements about
> contradicting their own reason of being.
> 
> Whatever lawsuit you're thinking about (please be my guest), it won't
> solve your current issue fast enough for your immediate need.
> 
> ==
> hk
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Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?!

[hellekin]

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On 07/04/2015 03:30 PM, Heather Akers-Healy wrote:
> Facebook has 1.19 billion monthly active users, making it the largest
> community on Earth. Activists will need to use it
>
*** I'm sorry but I think the opposite: first Facebook is not a
community but a large collection of people, unless you consider a
community as a dead society: one that cannot evolve on its own;

second, matching online persona with govern-mental ID is Facebook's
business: this is how they're "valued" so much--and that's an
anti-privacy feature;

third, if activists would be serious about preserving their privacy,
they would support the activists making privacy-by-design online social
software instead of begging a private surveillance company to help them.
When activists prefer accepting "privacy policies" that denies them
their privacy, to supporting decentralized and distributed alternatives
to Facebook, they should be conscious of the consequences of their
choice: unfortunately this seems to be happening in tragic circumstances
.

Now that your network has been compromised, Inna, you can only trust
that your ID won't fall into the hands of your opponents when you
transmit it to Facebook, or that Facebook will make an exception for
you, which would jeopardize their future claim for "Real Names".

By accepting their conditions, you accepted to relinquish your privacy,
and the privacy of all the people in contact with you. No matter what
privacy activists do, people prefer easy to prudent. That's what happens
.

Steve Weis' response, if he's really working at Facebook, demonstrates
the inanity of Facebook to support activism: the mail should have come
from a Facebook domain, be signed with a PGP key, and not ask for "a
membership card". This person, besides its alleged good intention, has
no clue what he's talking about.

In your situation Inna, I would send a private message to known Facebook
employees working in the security department using encrypted messages.
If you can prove to them that you own the account, it should work,
bypassing the stupid company policy: that would be an acceptable way for
Facebook to "have it" without making official statements about
contradicting their own reason of being.

Whatever lawsuit you're thinking about (please be my guest), it won't
solve your current issue fast enough for your immediate need.

==
hk

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Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?!

[aestetix]

Please let us know how things work out, I will be very interested to see
if they reinstate your account (without sending ID).

On 7/5/15 5:19 PM, Inna Malina wrote:
> Thank you, Arzak!
> 
>  
> 
> They contacted me right away offering help, however it seems they don't
> have a way around Facebook policies requiring IDs.
> 
>  
> 
> I hope the matter can be resolved soon.
> 
>  
> 
> I am now blocked for 5 days.
> 
>  
> 
> Thank you,
> 
>  
> 
> Inna
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> On 2015-07-05 3:46 am, Arzak Khan wrote:
> 
>> Inna,
>>  
>> Access has been pressuring Facebook to change their stance on
>> the real-name policy for some time. Gustaf from Access also on the
>> list shared this email earlier.
>>  
>> I think you should also contact the Access Digital Security Helpline at
>> h...@accessnow.org, the 24/7/365 staff there may be able to assist you
>> get your list of Facebook activist accounts reinstated.
>>
>> We at Internet Policy Observatory Pakistan would be supporting Access
>> in this initiative as it seriously jeopardizes the security of
>> activists from our region.
>>  
>> Best,
>>  
>> Arzak
>>  
>> ----------------------------
>> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2015 21:41:49 -0600
>> From: p.i...@lycos.com
>> To: achu...@riseup.net; liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu
>> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account
>> unblocked on Facebook?!
>>
>> We should change these rules. Facebook should review and improve their
>> policies so they don't discriminate people and should invest into
>> proper Help Desk with human beings reviewing the cases, not automatic
>> blocking. I wonder what might help Facebook, a lawsuit in Canada maybe?
>>  
>>  
>> On 2015-07-04 3:15 pm, A.Chukin wrote:
>>
>> I also have an example of the same problem with negligence in FB account
>> blocking policy. One of the technical activists who supported civil
>> society in Ukraine and help them with cyber defence get blocked by FB by
>> reason of providing ID for unblock. It is obvious that it was happend by
>> some outside "claim" from "well-wishers", but it is absolutely
>> impossible to contact FB directly with explanations and he is completely
>> rule out sending them any of his IDs, becouse it is a question of his
>> personal safety. Very pity situation when many people suffer from
>> burocracy of others.
>>
>> 03.07.2015 13:09, Arzak Khan пишет:
>>
>> I think Facebook real name policy is very hypocritical and is
>> negative against activists working in regions like yourself
>> and ours in Pakistan. We also have a list of Facebook users
>> and activists pages that have been blocked on reports of
>> government supported trolls. I am not sure if you can unblock
>> your ID by submitting a letter only as a user is required as
>> per their policy to submit a photo identification document.
>> Anyone on the list have any experience with it? Cheers! Arzak
>> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 21:57:13 -0600 From: p.i...@lycos.com
>> <mailto:p.i...@lycos.com> To:
>> liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu
>> <mailto:liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu> Subject:
>> [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked
>> on Facebook?! I am a Ukrainian Canadian activist and my
>> country of origin is at war. I created several groups on
>> Facebook, including Russian Speaking Canada for Peace, a
>> political forum, which debunks Kremlin run propaganda, and has
>> over 1800 members. I also run fundraisers on Facebook to help
>> orphaned children evacuated from war-torn areas of Ukraine. I
>> am on Facebook since 2007 and don't pretend to be someone I am
>> not: the birthday, contact info, photos are all mine and my
>> friends know who I am. When Russia invaded and annexed
>> Ukrainian territory Crimea, I changed my legal last name to a
>> pseudonym, to protect my family and people I work with outside
>> social media from bullying by Putin supporters, since the
>> threats and bullying online were/are abundant. Yesterday, on
>> Canada Day, Facebook blocked my account (obviously following a
>> report from someone who tries to stop my activism) and
>> demanded to confirm m

Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?!

[Inna Malina]

 

Thank you, Arzak! 

They contacted me right away offering help, however it seems they don't
have a way around Facebook policies requiring IDs. 

I hope the matter can be resolved soon. 

I am now blocked for 5 days. 

Thank you, 

Inna 

On 2015-07-05 3:46 am, Arzak Khan wrote: 

> Inna,
> 
> Access has been pressuring Facebook to change their stance on
> the real-name policy for some time. Gustaf from Access also on the list 
> shared this email earlier. 
> 
> I think you should also contact the Access Digital Security Helpline at
> h...@accessnow.org, the 24/7/365 staff there may be able to assist you
> get your list of Facebook activist accounts reinstated.
> 
> We at Internet Policy Observatory Pakistan would be supporting Access in this 
> initiative as it seriously jeopardizes the security of activists from our 
> region. 
> 
> Best,
> 
> Arzak 
> 
> -
> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2015 21:41:49 -0600
> From: p.i...@lycos.com
> To: achu...@riseup.net; liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu
> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on 
> Facebook?!
> 
> We should change these rules. Facebook should review and improve their 
> policies so they don't discriminate people and should invest into proper Help 
> Desk with human beings reviewing the cases, not automatic blocking. I wonder 
> what might help Facebook, a lawsuit in Canada maybe?
> 
> On 2015-07-04 3:15 pm, A.Chukin wrote:
> 
> I also have an example of the same problem with negligence in FB account
> blocking policy. One of the technical activists who supported civil
> society in Ukraine and help them with cyber defence get blocked by FB by
> reason of providing ID for unblock. It is obvious that it was happend by
> some outside "claim" from "well-wishers", but it is absolutely
> impossible to contact FB directly with explanations and he is completely
> rule out sending them any of his IDs, becouse it is a question of his
> personal safety. Very pity situation when many people suffer from
> burocracy of others.
> 
> 03.07.2015 13:09, Arzak Khan пишет:
> I think Facebook real name policy is very hypocritical and is negative 
> against activists working in regions like yourself and ours in Pakistan. We 
> also have a list of Facebook users and activists pages that have been blocked 
> on reports of government supported trolls. I am not sure if you can unblock 
> your ID by submitting a letter only as a user is required as per their policy 
> to submit a photo identification document. Anyone on the list have any 
> experience with it? Cheers! Arzak Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 21:57:13 -0600 From: 
> p.i...@lycos.com To: liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu Subject: 
> [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?! I 
> am a Ukrainian Canadian activist and my country of origin is at war. I 
> created several groups on Facebook, including Russian Speaking Canada for 
> Peace, a political forum, which debunks Kremlin run propaganda, and has over 
> 1800 members. I also run fundraisers on Facebook to help orphaned children 
> evacuated from war-torn areas
of Ukraine. I am on Facebook since 2007 and don't pretend to be someone I am 
not: the birthday, contact info, photos are all mine and my friends know who I 
am. When Russia invaded and annexed Ukrainian territory Crimea, I changed my 
legal last name to a pseudonym, to protect my family and people I work with 
outside social media from bullying by Putin supporters, since the threats and 
bullying online were/are abundant. Yesterday, on Canada Day, Facebook blocked 
my account (obviously following a report from someone who tries to stop my 
activism) and demanded to confirm my name by submitting my ID online. Instead 
of ID I submitted a letter saying that I get regular threats and feel rather 
uncomfortable sending my identification documents via insecure online channels. 
I did add that I can show them to a legitimate representative or even in Skype, 
but they can't expect a photocopy of a driving license or social insurance card 
to be e-mailed or submitted through some suspicious form
online. Only last month Facebook has come under fire for biased political 
blocking of accounts of Russian opposition and Ukrainian activists who are 
constantly cyber-attacked by the paid army of Putin trolls. The petition, which 
has already collected close to 15000 signatures, states: "Facebook 
indiscriminately reacts to these reports by blocking the accounts of prominent 
Ukrainian public figures and Russian dissenters. Lately, the bans have become 
so frequent that we can now claim that Facebook has become an efficient tool of 
the Kremlin." 
https://www.change.org/p/facebook-stop-political-blocking-on-facebook [1] 
Facebook 

Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?!

[Arzak Khan]

Inna,
 
Access has been pressuring Facebook to change their stance on
the real-name policy for some time. Gustaf from Access also on the list shared 
this email earlier. 
 
I think you should also contact the Access Digital Security Helpline at
h...@accessnow.org, the 24/7/365 staff there may be able to assist you
get your list of Facebook activist accounts reinstated.

We at Internet Policy Observatory Pakistan would be supporting Access in this 
initiative as it seriously jeopardizes the security of activists from our 
region. 
 
Best,
 
Arzak 
 
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2015 21:41:49 -0600
From: p.i...@lycos.com
To: achu...@riseup.net; liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu
Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on 
Facebook?!



We should change these rules. Facebook should review and improve their policies 
so they don't discriminate people and should invest into proper Help Desk with 
human beings reviewing the cases, not automatic blocking. I wonder what might 
help Facebook, a lawsuit in Canada maybe?

 

 
On 2015-07-04 3:15 pm, A.Chukin wrote:


I also have an example of the same problem with negligence in FB account
blocking policy. One of the technical activists who supported civil
society in Ukraine and help them with cyber defence get blocked by FB by
reason of providing ID for unblock. It is obvious that it was happend by
some outside "claim" from "well-wishers", but it is absolutely
impossible to contact FB directly with explanations and he is completely
rule out sending them any of his IDs, becouse it is a question of his
personal safety. Very pity situation when many people suffer from
burocracy of others.

03.07.2015 13:09, Arzak Khan пишет:
I think Facebook real name policy is very hypocritical and is negative against 
activists working in regions like yourself and ours in Pakistan. We also have a 
list of Facebook users and activists pages that have been blocked on reports of 
government supported trolls. I am not sure if you can unblock your ID by 
submitting a letter only as a user is required as per their policy to submit a 
photo identification document. Anyone on the list have any experience with it? 
Cheers! Arzak Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 21:57:13 -0600 From: p.i...@lycos.com To: 
liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu Subject: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me 
get my account unblocked on Facebook?! I am a Ukrainian Canadian activist and 
my country of origin is at war. I created several groups on Facebook, including 
Russian Speaking Canada for Peace, a political forum, which debunks Kremlin run 
propaganda, and has over 1800 members. I also run fundraisers on Facebook to 
help orphaned children evacuated from war-torn areas of Ukraine. I am on 
Facebook since 2007 and don't pretend to be someone I am not: the birthday, 
contact info, photos are all mine and my friends know who I am. When Russia 
invaded and annexed Ukrainian territory Crimea, I changed my legal last name to 
a pseudonym, to protect my family and people I work with outside social media 
from bullying by Putin supporters, since the threats and bullying online 
were/are abundant. Yesterday, on Canada Day, Facebook blocked my account 
(obviously following a report from someone who tries to stop my activism) and 
demanded to confirm my name by submitting my ID online. Instead of ID I 
submitted a letter saying that I get regular threats and feel rather 
uncomfortable sending my identification documents via insecure online channels. 
I did add that I can show them to a legitimate representative or even in Skype, 
but they can't expect a photocopy of a driving license or social insurance card 
to be e-mailed or submitted through some suspicious form online. Only last 
month Facebook has come under fire for biased political blocking of accounts of 
Russian opposition and Ukrainian activists who are constantly cyber-attacked by 
the paid army of Putin trolls. The petition, which has already collected close 
to 15000 signatures, states: "Facebook indiscriminately reacts to these reports 
by blocking the accounts of prominent Ukrainian public figures and Russian 
dissenters. Lately, the bans have become so frequent that we can now claim that 
Facebook has become an efficient tool of the Kremlin." 
https://www.change.org/p/facebook-stop-political-blocking-on-facebook Facebook 
"real name" policy has also come under scrutiny multiple times and has been 
called discriminatory. Petition by performers, which collected over 4 
signatures asserts: "Facebook tells us that "it looks like you're not using 
your real name," before requiring us to change it. We cannot emphasize enough 
that Facebook is a poor arbiter of what is or isn't a "real name." Performers 
with legitimate-appearing names get locked out of their accounts while people 
with account names like "Jane ICanBeBadAllByMyself Doe" go without scrut

Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?!

[Inna Malina]

 

We should change these rules. Facebook should review and improve their
policies so they don't discriminate people and should invest into proper
Help Desk with human beings reviewing the cases, not automatic blocking.
I wonder what might help Facebook, a lawsuit in Canada maybe? 

On 2015-07-04 3:15 pm, A.Chukin wrote: 

> I also have an example of the same problem with negligence in FB account
> blocking policy. One of the technical activists who supported civil
> society in Ukraine and help them with cyber defence get blocked by FB by
> reason of providing ID for unblock. It is obvious that it was happend by
> some outside "claim" from "well-wishers", but it is absolutely
> impossible to contact FB directly with explanations and he is completely
> rule out sending them any of his IDs, becouse it is a question of his
> personal safety. Very pity situation when many people suffer from
> burocracy of others.
> 
> 03.07.2015 13:09, Arzak Khan пишет:
> 
>> I think Facebook real name policy is very hypocritical and is negative 
>> against activists working in regions like yourself and ours in Pakistan. We 
>> also have a list of Facebook users and activists pages that have been 
>> blocked on reports of government supported trolls. I am not sure if you can 
>> unblock your ID by submitting a letter only as a user is required as per 
>> their policy to submit a photo identification document. Anyone on the list 
>> have any experience with it? Cheers! Arzak Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 21:57:13 
>> -0600 From: p.i...@lycos.com To: liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu Subject: 
>> [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?! I 
>> am a Ukrainian Canadian activist and my country of origin is at war. I 
>> created several groups on Facebook, including Russian Speaking Canada for 
>> Peace, a political forum, which debunks Kremlin run propaganda, and has over 
>> 1800 members. I also run fundraisers on Facebook to help orphaned children 
>> evacuated from war-torn areas
of Ukraine. I am on Facebook since 2007 and don't pretend to be someone I am 
not: the birthday, contact info, photos are all mine and my friends know who I 
am. When Russia invaded and annexed Ukrainian territory Crimea, I changed my 
legal last name to a pseudonym, to protect my family and people I work with 
outside social media from bullying by Putin supporters, since the threats and 
bullying online were/are abundant. Yesterday, on Canada Day, Facebook blocked 
my account (obviously following a report from someone who tries to stop my 
activism) and demanded to confirm my name by submitting my ID online. Instead 
of ID I submitted a letter saying that I get regular threats and feel rather 
uncomfortable sending my identification documents via insecure online channels. 
I did add that I can show them to a legitimate representative or even in Skype, 
but they can't expect a photocopy of a driving license or social insurance card 
to be e-mailed or submitted through some suspicious form
online. Only last month Facebook has come under fire for biased political 
blocking of accounts of Russian opposition and Ukrainian activists who are 
constantly cyber-attacked by the paid army of Putin trolls. The petition, which 
has already collected close to 15000 signatures, states: "Facebook 
indiscriminately reacts to these reports by blocking the accounts of prominent 
Ukrainian public figures and Russian dissenters. Lately, the bans have become 
so frequent that we can now claim that Facebook has become an efficient tool of 
the Kremlin." 
https://www.change.org/p/facebook-stop-political-blocking-on-facebook [1] 
Facebook "real name" policy has also come under scrutiny multiple times and has 
been called discriminatory. Petition by performers, which collected over 4 
signatures asserts: "Facebook tells us that "it looks like you're not using 
your real name," before requiring us to change it. We cannot emphasize enough 
that Facebook is a poor arbiter of what is or isn't a "real
name." Performers with legitimate-appearing names get locked out of their 
accounts while people with account names like "Jane ICanBeBadAllByMyself Doe" 
go without scrutiny." 
https://www.change.org/p/facebook-allow-performers-to-use-their-stage-names-on-their-facebook-accounts
 [2] People using aboriginal names were discriminated by Facebook too. 
http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/facebook-flags-aboriginal-names-as-not-authentic-1.2970993
 [3] Just few days back, on June 30, Zuckerberg explained: "If your friends all 
call you by a nickname and you want to use that name on Facebook, you should be 
able to do that," he said. In this case, he said, the policy "should be able to 
support everyone using their own real nam

Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?!

[A.Chukin]

I also have an example of the same problem with negligence in FB account
blocking policy. One of the technical activists who supported civil
society in Ukraine and help them with cyber defence get blocked by FB by
reason of providing ID for unblock. It is obvious that it was happend by
some outside "claim" from "well-wishers", but it is absolutely
impossible to contact FB directly with explanations and he is completely
rule out sending them any of his IDs, becouse it is a question of his
personal safety. Very pity situation when many people suffer from
burocracy of others.

03.07.2015 13:09, Arzak Khan пишет:
> I think Facebook real name policy is very hypocritical and is negative 
> against activists working in regions like yourself and ours in Pakistan. We 
> also have a list of Facebook users and activists pages that have been blocked 
> on reports of government supported trolls. 
> I am not sure if you can unblock your ID by submitting a letter only as a 
> user is required as per their policy to submit a photo identification 
> document. 
> Anyone on the list have any experience with it?
> Cheers!
> Arzak 
> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 21:57:13 -0600
> From: p.i...@lycos.com
> To: liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu
> Subject: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on 
> Facebook?!
> 
> 
> 
> I am a Ukrainian Canadian activist and my country of origin is at war. I 
> created several groups on Facebook, including Russian Speaking Canada for 
> Peace, a political forum, which debunks Kremlin run propaganda, and has over 
> 1800 members. I also run fundraisers on Facebook to help orphaned children 
> evacuated from war-torn areas of Ukraine. I am on Facebook since 2007 and 
> don’t pretend to be someone I am not: the birthday, contact info, photos are 
> all mine and my friends know who I am. When Russia invaded and annexed 
> Ukrainian territory Crimea, I changed my legal last name to a pseudonym, to 
> protect my family and people I work with outside social media from bullying 
> by Putin supporters, since the threats and bullying online were/are abundant. 
>  
> 
> Yesterday, on Canada Day, Facebook blocked my account (obviously following a 
> report from someone who tries to stop my activism) and demanded to confirm my 
> name by submitting my ID online. Instead of ID I submitted a letter saying 
> that I get regular threats and feel rather uncomfortable sending my 
> identification documents via insecure online channels. I did add that I can 
> show them to a legitimate representative or even in Skype, but they can’t 
> expect a photocopy of a driving license or social insurance card to be 
> e-mailed or submitted through some suspicious form online.
> 
> Only last month Facebook has come under fire for biased political blocking of 
> accounts of Russian opposition and Ukrainian activists who are constantly 
> cyber-attacked by the paid army of Putin trolls. The petition, which has 
> already collected close to 15000 signatures, states:  “Facebook 
> indiscriminately reacts to these reports by blocking the accounts of 
> prominent Ukrainian public figures and Russian dissenters. Lately, the bans 
> have become so frequent that we can now claim that Facebook has become an 
> efficient tool of the Kremlin.” 
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-stop-political-blocking-on-facebook
> 
>  
> 
> Facebook "real name" policy has also come under scrutiny multiple times and 
> has been called discriminatory. Petition by performers, which collected over 
> 4 signatures asserts:  “Facebook tells us that "it looks like you're not 
> using your real name," before requiring us to change it. We cannot emphasize 
> enough that Facebook is a poor arbiter of what is or isn't a "real name." 
> Performers with legitimate-appearing names get locked out of their accounts 
> while people with account names like "Jane ICanBeBadAllByMyself Doe" go 
> without scrutiny.” 
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-allow-performers-to-use-their-stage-names-on-their-facebook-accounts
>  People using aboriginal names were discriminated by Facebook too. 
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/facebook-flags-aboriginal-names-as-not-authentic-1.2970993
> 
> Just few days back, on June 30, Zuckerberg explained: “If your friends all 
> call you by a nickname and you want to use that name on Facebook, you should 
> be able to do that,” he said. In this case, he said, the policy “should be 
> able to support everyone using their own real names, including everyone in 
> the transgender community.”
> 
> So it is not clear anymore, is Zuckerberg lying to Facebook users or is he 
> simply ignorant of what his staff does. When will Facebook start tre

Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?!

[Shelley]

On July 4, 2015 11:24:46 AM Al Billings  wrote:


Maybe people should just not use Facebook?


People should just not use Facebook.  Fixed that for you!


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Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?!

[Inna Malina]

 

Obviously Facebook senior management wants to run it cheap, put their
users at risk and put their staff into a position where they have to
enforce for them discriminatory and possible illegal procedures and
policies. 

How about investing like "real" companies do into an actual HelpDesk
instead of demanding what a government agency or employer would do.
Facebook, you don't employ me or own me! You don't provide my health
care either! Why do I need to submit my ID?! Where is phone number and
real people to talk to?! Anyone who have ever requested my ID had an
office or desk I could come to. This anarchy should stop. 

On 2015-07-04 12:30 pm, Heather Akers-Healy wrote: 

> Facebook has 1.19 billion monthly active users, making it the largest 
> community on Earth. Activists will need to use it despite not agreeing or not 
> being able to comply with their stupid real name policy. 
> 
> On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Al Billings  wrote:
> 
>> Maybe people should just not use Facebook?
>> 
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Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?!

[Heather Akers-Healy]

Facebook has 1.19 billion monthly active users, making it the largest
community on Earth. Activists will need to use it despite not agreeing or
not being able to comply with their stupid real name policy.

On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Al Billings  wrote:

> Maybe people should just not use Facebook?
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Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?!

[Inna Malina]

 

If I knew Facebook will abuse me like this, I would have quit it long
ago. However, with the war in Ukraine, we use Facebook to combat
propaganda, plan and coordinate global protests, raise funds to support
those who suffered from war. At this point, it will be detrimental not
to be able to continue with those activities. 

On 2015-07-04 12:24 pm, Al Billings wrote: 

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Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?!

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Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?!

[Inna Malina]

 

I don't have "membership card" with my birth-date on, I only have
driving license, health card and passport with my birthday on. I don't
remember seeing any membership cards here with birthdate on. 

Heather is raising important points. I also tried to have an alternative
FB account and I was locked out there too two days ago. I wonder if
someone is praying on me via my IP address. 

All of this is more than frustrating. Facebook should treat its users
with basic respect. I feel none of that, 

Thank you, 

Inna 

On 2015-07-04 10:57 am, Heather Akers-Healy wrote: 

> Steve, I don't expect a public reply to the comments I'm writing below, but 
> perhaps internally at FB you might make some headway. 
> 
> You write: 
> 
> "Regardless, for future reference, under "Option 2" there is a set of 
> acceptable forms of ID that are not government issued:
> https://www.facebook.com/help/159096464162185 [1]
> 
> For example, a "membership card" with your birthdate and a piece of mail 
> would suffice." 
> 
> An activist using a pseudonym on Facebook and working in a country or 
> situation where it is dangerous to reveal their identity would be smart to 
> not have *any* personally identifying information tied to their account at 
> all. Facebook would do well to get rid of any name or identity requirements 
> and instead focus on how users are behaving. Reporting based solely on 
> behavior can still be abused so there should be some threshold to meet before 
> an account is suspended. Facebook is a large, profitable company. Surely they 
> can afford to beef up the staff handling account suspensions so that more 
> actual human review takes place *before* situations like these occur. 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Steve Weis  wrote:
> 
> Hello Inna. I work at Facebook and have contacted you from my work account. 
> 
> I'm not in a position to discuss the merits of the policy.
> 
> Regardless, for future reference, under "Option 2" there is a set of 
> acceptable forms of ID that are not government issued:
> https://www.facebook.com/help/159096464162185 [1]
> 
> For example, a "membership card" with your birthdate and a piece of mail 
> would suffice. 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Inna Malina  wrote: 
> 
> I am a Ukrainian Canadian activist and my country of origin is at war. I 
> created several groups on Facebook, including Russian Speaking Canada for 
> Peace, a political forum, which debunks Kremlin run propaganda, and has over 
> 1800 members. I also run fundraisers on Facebook to help orphaned children 
> evacuated from war-torn areas of Ukraine. I am on Facebook since 2007 and 
> don't pretend to be someone I am not: the birthday, contact info, photos are 
> all mine and my friends know who I am. When Russia invaded and annexed 
> Ukrainian territory Crimea, I changed my legal last name to a pseudonym, to 
> protect my family and people I work with outside social media from bullying 
> by Putin supporters, since the threats and bullying online were/are abundant. 
> 
> Yesterday, on Canada Day, Facebook blocked my account (obviously following a 
> report from someone who tries to stop my activism) and demanded to confirm my 
> name by submitting my ID online. Instead of ID I submitted a letter saying 
> that I get regular threats and feel rather uncomfortable sending my 
> identification documents via insecure online channels. I did add that I can 
> show them to a legitimate representative or even in Skype, but they can't 
> expect a photocopy of a driving license or social insurance card to be 
> e-mailed or submitted through some suspicious form online. 
> 
> Only last month Facebook has come under fire for biased political blocking of 
> accounts of Russian opposition and Ukrainian activists who are constantly 
> cyber-attacked by the paid army of Putin trolls. The petition, which has 
> already collected close to 15000 signatures, states: "Facebook 
> indiscriminately reacts to these reports by blocking the accounts of 
> prominent Ukrainian public figures and Russian dissenters. Lately, the bans 
> have become so frequent that we can now claim that Facebook has become an 
> efficient tool of the Kremlin." 
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-stop-political-blocking-on-facebook [2] 
> 
> Facebook "real name" policy has also come under scrutiny multiple times and 
> has been called discriminatory. Petition by performers, which collected over 
> 4 signatures asserts: "Facebook tells us that "it looks like you're not 
> using your real name," before requiring us to change it. We cannot emphasize 
> enough that Facebook is a poor arbiter of what is or isn't a "real name." 
> Performers with legitimate-appearing names get locked out of their accounts 
> while people with account names like "Jane ICanBeBadAllByMyself Doe" go 
> without scrutiny." 
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-allow-performers-to-use-their-stage-names-on-their-facebook-accounts
>  [3] People using aboriginal names w

Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?!

[Inna Malina]

 

Dear Steve, 

Thank you for your response. Finally a real person from Facebook to talk
to. I am completely locked out (since mid-day July 1, 2015) and I
received two more e-mails presumably from Facebook or someone
impersonating it under name "Kalin". How I can trust my ID to someone
who does not even state a real name. I no longer have access to a
Facebook dashboard referred to in those e-mails. 

I wrote to Facebook that I will show any ID in person or Skype, but no
ID will be submitted to be stored in some database, security of which I
am not assured off. 

I looked at the Option 2: 

* 
Check 
* 
Credit card 
* 
Employment verification 
* Social Security card
* Paycheck stub
* etc

I really wonder legality of such requests. 

As per "real name policy", June 30, 2015 Zuckerberg explained: "If your
friends all call you by a nickname and you want to use that name on
Facebook, you should be able to do that." 

So I am really confused now. Is Mr. Zuckerberg lying to his users or is
he ignorant of what Faebook staff does. 

I don't want my name change on Facebook to be forced upon me. I am also
questioning the legality of mining government IDs of users. 

There are zillions fake accounts with no activity on timeline, with no
photos and few friends to harass other people, like myself. Yet, they
get a green light and I get penalized. It is obvious to anyone who would
look at my account, that it is indeed not a fake identity. Why do I need
to submit my credit card or SIN number to prove the opposite. It is
discriminatory and possible illegal. 

I think we have a juicy lawsuit emerging here. 

I would appreciate if you could communicate this issue up to those who
are responsible for setting up such discriminatory policies. 

Thank you, 

Inna 

On 2015-07-03 8:54 pm, Steve Weis wrote: 

> Hello Inna. I work at Facebook and have contacted you from my work account. 
> 
> I'm not in a position to discuss the merits of the policy.
> 
> Regardless, for future reference, under "Option 2" there is a set of 
> acceptable forms of ID that are not government issued:
> https://www.facebook.com/help/159096464162185 [5]
> 
> For example, a "membership card" with your birthdate and a piece of mail 
> would suffice. 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Inna Malina  wrote:
> 
>> I am a Ukrainian Canadian activist and my country of origin is at war. I 
>> created several groups on Facebook, including Russian Speaking Canada for 
>> Peace, a political forum, which debunks Kremlin run propaganda, and has over 
>> 1800 members. I also run fundraisers on Facebook to help orphaned children 
>> evacuated from war-torn areas of Ukraine. I am on Facebook since 2007 and 
>> don't pretend to be someone I am not: the birthday, contact info, photos are 
>> all mine and my friends know who I am. When Russia invaded and annexed 
>> Ukrainian territory Crimea, I changed my legal last name to a pseudonym, to 
>> protect my family and people I work with outside social media from bullying 
>> by Putin supporters, since the threats and bullying online were/are 
>> abundant. 
>> 
>> Yesterday, on Canada Day, Facebook blocked my account (obviously following a 
>> report from someone who tries to stop my activism) and demanded to confirm 
>> my name by submitting my ID online. Instead of ID I submitted a letter 
>> saying that I get regular threats and feel rather uncomfortable sending my 
>> identification documents via insecure online channels. I did add that I can 
>> show them to a legitimate representative or even in Skype, but they can't 
>> expect a photocopy of a driving license or social insurance card to be 
>> e-mailed or submitted through some suspicious form online. 
>> 
>> Only last month Facebook has come under fire for biased political blocking 
>> of accounts of Russian opposition and Ukrainian activists who are constantly 
>> cyber-attacked by the paid army of Putin trolls. The petition, which has 
>> already collected close to 15000 signatures, states: "Facebook 
>> indiscriminately reacts to these reports by blocking the accounts of 
>> prominent Ukrainian public figures and Russian dissenters. Lately, the bans 
>> have become so frequent that we can now claim that Facebook has become an 
>> efficient tool of the Kremlin." 
>> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-stop-political-blocking-on-facebook [1] 
>> 
>> Facebook "real name" policy has also come under scrutiny multiple times and 
>> has been called discriminatory. Petition by performers, which collected over 
>> 4 signatures asserts: "Facebook tells us that "it looks like you're not 
>> using your real name," before requiring us to change it. We cannot emphasize 
>> enough that Facebook is a poor arbiter of what is or isn't a "real name." 
>> Performers with legitimate-appearing names get locked out of their accounts 
>> while people with account names like "Jane ICanBeBadAllByMyself Doe" go 
>> without scrutiny." 
>> http

Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?!

[Inna Malina]

 

Dear Steve, 

Thank you for your response. Finally a real person from Facebook to talk
to. I am completely locked out (since mid-day July 1, 2015) and I
received two more e-mails presumably from Facebook or someone
impersonating it under name "Kalin". How I can trust my ID to someone
who does not even state a real name. I no longer have access to a
Facebook dashboard referred to in those e-mails. 

I wrote to Facebook that I will show any ID in person or Skype, but no
ID will be submitted to be stored in some database, security of which I
am not assured off. 

I looked at the Option 2: 

* 
Check 
* 
Credit card 
* 
Employment verification 
* Social Security card
* Paycheck stub
* etc

I really wonder legality of such requests. 

As per "real name policy", June 30, 2015 Zuckerberg explained: "If your
friends all call you by a nickname and you want to use that name on
Facebook, you should be able to do that." 

So I am really confused now. Is Mr. Zuckerberg lying to his users or is
he ignorant of what Faebook staff does. 

I don't want my name change on Facebook to be forced upon me. I am also
questioning the legality of mining government IDs of users. 

There are zillions fake accounts with no activity on timeline, with no
photos and few friends to harass other people, like myself. Yet, they
get a green light and I get penalized. It is obvious to anyone who would
look at my account, that it is indeed not a fake identity. Why do I need
to submit my credit card or SIN number to prove the opposite. It is
discriminatory and possible illegal. 

I think we have a juicy lawsuit emerging here. 

I would appreciate if you could communicate this issue up to those who
are responsible for setting up such discriminatory policies. 

Thank you, 

Inna 

On 2015-07-03 8:54 pm, Steve Weis wrote: 

> Hello Inna. I work at Facebook and have contacted you from my work account. 
> 
> I'm not in a position to discuss the merits of the policy.
> 
> Regardless, for future reference, under "Option 2" there is a set of 
> acceptable forms of ID that are not government issued:
> https://www.facebook.com/help/159096464162185 [5]
> 
> For example, a "membership card" with your birthdate and a piece of mail 
> would suffice. 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Inna Malina  wrote:
> 
>> I am a Ukrainian Canadian activist and my country of origin is at war. I 
>> created several groups on Facebook, including Russian Speaking Canada for 
>> Peace, a political forum, which debunks Kremlin run propaganda, and has over 
>> 1800 members. I also run fundraisers on Facebook to help orphaned children 
>> evacuated from war-torn areas of Ukraine. I am on Facebook since 2007 and 
>> don't pretend to be someone I am not: the birthday, contact info, photos are 
>> all mine and my friends know who I am. When Russia invaded and annexed 
>> Ukrainian territory Crimea, I changed my legal last name to a pseudonym, to 
>> protect my family and people I work with outside social media from bullying 
>> by Putin supporters, since the threats and bullying online were/are 
>> abundant. 
>> 
>> Yesterday, on Canada Day, Facebook blocked my account (obviously following a 
>> report from someone who tries to stop my activism) and demanded to confirm 
>> my name by submitting my ID online. Instead of ID I submitted a letter 
>> saying that I get regular threats and feel rather uncomfortable sending my 
>> identification documents via insecure online channels. I did add that I can 
>> show them to a legitimate representative or even in Skype, but they can't 
>> expect a photocopy of a driving license or social insurance card to be 
>> e-mailed or submitted through some suspicious form online. 
>> 
>> Only last month Facebook has come under fire for biased political blocking 
>> of accounts of Russian opposition and Ukrainian activists who are constantly 
>> cyber-attacked by the paid army of Putin trolls. The petition, which has 
>> already collected close to 15000 signatures, states: "Facebook 
>> indiscriminately reacts to these reports by blocking the accounts of 
>> prominent Ukrainian public figures and Russian dissenters. Lately, the bans 
>> have become so frequent that we can now claim that Facebook has become an 
>> efficient tool of the Kremlin." 
>> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-stop-political-blocking-on-facebook [1] 
>> 
>> Facebook "real name" policy has also come under scrutiny multiple times and 
>> has been called discriminatory. Petition by performers, which collected over 
>> 4 signatures asserts: "Facebook tells us that "it looks like you're not 
>> using your real name," before requiring us to change it. We cannot emphasize 
>> enough that Facebook is a poor arbiter of what is or isn't a "real name." 
>> Performers with legitimate-appearing names get locked out of their accounts 
>> while people with account names like "Jane ICanBeBadAllByMyself Doe" go 
>> without scrutiny." 
>> http

Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?!

[Inna Malina]

 

These are all valid points from aestetix and I am questioning the
legality and security of mining government and other personal
identification documents by Facebook. Who guarantees their safety? With
the identity theft on a rise, why I am forced to submit ID online? Who
will guarantee my and my family safety if my personal data becomes
accessible to Putin trolls? 

I called non-emergency line for police in Canada. They did not recommend
to submit any ID online, second, they could not locate any phone number
for Facebook. 

By submitting my IDs, the issue won't be resolved. I think Facebook
should really look at their policies and invest into a HelpDesk where
those issues can be addressed with real people instead of users seeking
help all over Internet in another country and through media. It is 4th
day I am locked out and there is no end to it. 

Happy Independence Day to our friends in US! 

Kind regards, 

Inna 

On 2015-07-04 4:11 am, aestetix wrote: 

> Is there an appropriate way to call for Facebook to be more transparent
> about their data security and rentention policies?
> 
> My concern here is not that Facebook wouldn't use SSL to collect an ID,
> but why they can demand the ID in the first place. Do they treat the ID
> (sensitive data) differently than just an email attachment? Who has
> access to it? How do they delete it? Do they have a big hard drive
> filled with ID documents? Will they share ID information with
> governments when subpoenaed?
> 
> There are many more questions, but Facebook would do well to at least
> answer these to start with.
> 
> On 7/4/15 12:03 PM, Hassen wrote:
> Hi Steve, I think Inna has worries to submit her ID through an insecure 
> online channel. I know the contact form use HTTPS but is there a way that she 
> use the PGP encryption feature that Facebook announced lately? Thank you. 
> Hassen On 04 يول, 2015 ص 03:54, Steve Weis wrote: Hello Inna. I work at 
> Facebook and have contacted you from my work account. I'm not in a position 
> to discuss the merits of the policy. Regardless, for future reference, under 
> "Option 2" there is a set of acceptable forms of ID that are not government 
> issued: https://www.facebook.com/help/159096464162185 [1] For example, a 
> "membership card" with your birthdate and a piece of mail would suffice. On 
> Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Inna Malina  > wrote: I am a Ukrainian Canadian activist and my 
> country of origin is at war. I created several groups on Facebook, including 
> Russian Speaking Canada for Peace, a political forum, which debunks Kremlin 
> run propaganda, and has over
1800 members. I also run fundraisers on Facebook to help orphaned children 
evacuated from war-torn areas of Ukraine. I am on Facebook since 2007 and don't 
pretend to be someone I am not: the birthday, contact info, photos are all mine 
and my friends know who I am. When Russia invaded and annexed Ukrainian 
territory Crimea, I changed my legal last name to a pseudonym, to protect my 
family and people I work with outside social media from bullying by Putin 
supporters, since the threats and bullying online were/are abundant. Yesterday, 
on Canada Day, Facebook blocked my account (obviously following a report from 
someone who tries to stop my activism) and demanded to confirm my name by 
submitting my ID online. Instead of ID I submitted a letter saying that I get 
regular threats and feel rather uncomfortable sending my identification 
documents via insecure online channels. I did add that I can show them to a 
legitimate representative or even in Skype, but they can't expect a photocopy 
of a
driving license or social insurance card to be e-mailed or submitted through 
some suspicious form online. Only last month Facebook has come under fire for 
biased political blocking of accounts of Russian opposition and Ukrainian 
activists who are constantly cyber-attacked by the paid army of Putin trolls. 
The petition, which has already collected close to 15000 signatures, states: 
"Facebook indiscriminately reacts to these reports by blocking the accounts of 
prominent Ukrainian public figures and Russian dissenters. Lately, the bans 
have become so frequent that we can now claim that Facebook has become an 
efficient tool of the Kremlin." 
https://www.change.org/p/facebook-stop-political-blocking-on-facebook [2] 
Facebook "real name" policy has also come under scrutiny multiple times and has 
been called discriminatory. Petition by performers, which collected over 4 
signatures asserts: "Facebook tells us that "it looks like you're not using 
your real name," before requiring us to
change it. We cannot emphasize enough that Facebook is a poor arbiter of what 
is or isn't a "real name." Performers with legitimate-appearing names get 
locked out of their accounts while people with account names like "Jane 
ICanBeBadAllByMyself Doe" go without scrutiny." 
https://www.change.org/p/facebook-allow-performers-to-use-their

Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?!

[Heather Akers-Healy]

Steve, I don't expect a public reply to the comments I'm writing below, but
perhaps internally at FB you might make some headway.

You write:

"Regardless, for future reference, under "Option 2" there is a set of
acceptable forms of ID that are not government issued:
https://www.facebook.com/help/159096464162185

For example, a "membership card" with your birthdate and a piece of mail
would suffice."

An activist using a pseudonym on Facebook and working in a country or
situation where it is dangerous to reveal their identity would be smart to
not have *any* personally identifying information tied to their account at
all. Facebook would do well to get rid of any name or identity requirements
and instead focus on how users are behaving. Reporting based solely on
behavior can still be abused so there should be some threshold to meet
before an account is suspended. Facebook is a large, profitable company.
Surely they can afford to beef up the staff handling account suspensions so
that more actual human review takes place *before* situations like these
occur.

On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Steve Weis  wrote:

> Hello Inna. I work at Facebook and have contacted you from my work account.
>
> I'm not in a position to discuss the merits of the policy.
>
> Regardless, for future reference, under "Option 2" there is a set of
> acceptable forms of ID that are not government issued:
> https://www.facebook.com/help/159096464162185
>
> For example, a "membership card" with your birthdate and a piece of mail
> would suffice.
>
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Inna Malina  wrote:
>
>>  I am a Ukrainian Canadian activist and my country of origin is at war.
>> I created several groups on Facebook, including Russian Speaking Canada for
>> Peace, a political forum, which debunks Kremlin run propaganda, and has
>> over 1800 members. I also run fundraisers on Facebook to help orphaned
>> children evacuated from war-torn areas of Ukraine. I am on Facebook since
>> 2007 and don’t pretend to be someone I am not: the birthday, contact info,
>> photos are all mine and my friends know who I am. When Russia invaded and
>> annexed Ukrainian territory Crimea, I changed my legal last name to a
>> pseudonym, to protect my family and people I work with outside social media
>> from bullying by Putin supporters, since the threats and bullying online
>> were/are abundant.
>>
>> Yesterday, on Canada Day, Facebook blocked my account (obviously
>> following a report from someone who tries to stop my activism) and demanded
>> to confirm my name by submitting my ID online. Instead of ID I submitted a
>> letter saying that I get regular threats and feel rather uncomfortable
>> sending my identification documents via insecure online channels. I did add
>> that I can show them to a legitimate representative or even in Skype, but
>> they can’t expect a photocopy of a driving license or social insurance card
>> to be e-mailed or submitted through some suspicious form online.
>>
>> Only last month Facebook has come under fire for biased political
>> blocking of accounts of Russian opposition and Ukrainian activists who are
>> constantly cyber-attacked by the paid army of Putin trolls. The petition,
>> which has already collected close to 15000 signatures, states:  “Facebook
>> indiscriminately reacts to these reports by blocking the accounts of
>> prominent Ukrainian public figures and Russian dissenters. Lately, the bans
>> have become so frequent that we can now claim that Facebook has become an
>> efficient tool of the Kremlin.”
>> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-stop-political-blocking-on-facebook
>>
>>
>>
>> Facebook "real name" policy has also come under scrutiny multiple times
>> and has been called discriminatory. Petition by performers, which collected
>> over 4 signatures asserts:  “Facebook tells us that "it looks like
>> you're not using your real name," before requiring us to change it. We
>> cannot emphasize enough that Facebook is a poor arbiter of what is or isn't
>> a "real name." Performers with legitimate-appearing names get locked out of
>> their accounts while people with account names like "Jane
>> ICanBeBadAllByMyself Doe" go without scrutiny.”
>> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-allow-performers-to-use-their-stage-names-on-their-facebook-accounts
>> People using aboriginal names were discriminated by Facebook too.
>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/facebook-flags-aboriginal-names-as-not-authentic-1.2970993
>>
>> Just few days back, on June 30, Zuckerberg explained: “If your friends
>> all call you by a nickname and you want to use that name on Facebook, you
>> should be able to do that,” he said. In this case, he said, the policy
>> “should be able to support everyone using their own real names, including
>> everyone in the transgender community.”
>>
>> So it is not clear anymore, is Zuckerberg lying to Facebook users or is
>> he simply ignorant of what his staff does. *When will Facebook start
>> treating its users wit

Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?!

[Steve Weis]

Hello Hassan. The PGP encryption feature is used only for outbound email
from Facebook. For example, password reset emails sent to you may be
encrypted.

I think in this case, submitting documentation over TLS is preferable to
attaching it in a PGP-encrypted email both for security and usability. If
it was the case where I could only submit sensitive documents via email or
a shared file system, then PGP would make complete sense.

On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 3:03 AM, Hassen  wrote:

> I think Inna has worries to submit her ID through an insecure online
> channel. I know the contact form use HTTPS but is there a way that she use
> the PGP encryption feature that Facebook announced lately?
>
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Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?!

[lilo]

Il 03/07/2015 05:57, Inna Malina ha scritto:

hi :)

> Yesterday, on Canada Day, Facebook blocked my account (obviously
> following a report from someone who tries to stop my activism) and
> demanded to confirm my name by submitting my ID online. Instead of ID I
> submitted a letter saying that I get regular threats and feel rather

activism, or hacktivism, or "people that report", isnt the answer, but
the answer is new facebook's policy and a software that is seraching
random people that NOT stay signed with *real name and surname*.  with
the nickname, for exemple :)

and for more BAD, seems the policy is RETROACTIVE.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook_real-name_policy_controversy

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/29/facebooks-real-names-policy-is-legal-but-its-also-problematic-for-free-speech


mine the same, but i think in italy only DIGOS/POLICE/VATTELAVA can ask
me a document ID, or a bank :D i dont upload a document neither if they
become purple, but a LOT of people are doing  for take their account.

i'm on third one, and i will go until they will die.

lol

yep, i'm an hacktivist, but they dont care, they care profiling and
tracking, and send notices to police o other shit regarding JOB, for
exemple.  or for business.

i'm in hackerberg mode_on.

cheers, lilo

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Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?!

[aestetix]

Is there an appropriate way to call for Facebook to be more transparent
about their data security and rentention policies?

My concern here is not that Facebook wouldn't use SSL to collect an ID,
but why they can demand the ID in the first place. Do they treat the ID
(sensitive data) differently than just an email attachment? Who has
access to it? How do they delete it? Do they have a big hard drive
filled with ID documents? Will they share ID information with
governments when subpoenaed?

There are many more questions, but Facebook would do well to at least
answer these to start with.

On 7/4/15 12:03 PM, Hassen wrote:
> Hi Steve,
> 
> I think Inna has worries to submit her ID through an insecure online
> channel. I know the contact form use HTTPS but is there a way that she
> use the PGP encryption feature that Facebook announced lately?
> 
> Thank you.
> Hassen
> 
> On 04 يول, 2015 ص 03:54, Steve Weis wrote:
>> Hello Inna. I work at Facebook and have contacted you from my work
>> account.
>>
>> I'm not in a position to discuss the merits of the policy.
>>
>> Regardless, for future reference, under "Option 2" there is a set of
>> acceptable forms of ID that are not government issued:
>> https://www.facebook.com/help/159096464162185
>>
>> For example, a "membership card" with your birthdate and a piece of
>> mail would suffice.
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Inna Malina > > wrote:
>>
>> I am a Ukrainian Canadian activist and my country of origin is at
>> war. I created several groups on Facebook, including Russian
>> Speaking Canada for Peace, a political forum, which debunks
>> Kremlin run propaganda, and has over 1800 members. I also run
>> fundraisers on Facebook to help orphaned children evacuated from
>> war-torn areas of Ukraine. I am on Facebook since 2007 and don’t
>> pretend to be someone I am not: the birthday, contact info, photos
>> are all mine and my friends know who I am. When Russia invaded and
>> annexed Ukrainian territory Crimea, I changed my legal last name
>> to a pseudonym, to protect my family and people I work with
>> outside social media from bullying by Putin supporters, since the
>> threats and bullying online were/are abundant.  
>>
>> Yesterday, on Canada Day, Facebook blocked my account (obviously
>> following a report from someone who tries to stop my activism) and
>> demanded to confirm my name by submitting my ID online. Instead of
>> ID I submitted a letter saying that I get regular threats and feel
>> rather uncomfortable sending my identification documents via
>> insecure online channels. I did add that I can show them to a
>> legitimate representative or even in Skype, but they can’t expect
>> a photocopy of a driving license or social insurance card to be
>> e-mailed or submitted through some suspicious form online.
>>
>> Only last month Facebook has come under fire for biased political
>> blocking of accounts of Russian opposition and Ukrainian activists
>> who are constantly cyber-attacked by the paid army of Putin
>> trolls. The petition, which has already collected close to 15000
>> signatures, states:  “Facebook indiscriminately reacts to these
>> reports by blocking the accounts of prominent Ukrainian public
>> figures and Russian dissenters. Lately, the bans have become so
>> frequent that we can now claim that Facebook has become an
>> efficient tool of the Kremlin.”
>> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-stop-political-blocking-on-facebook
>>
>>  
>>
>> Facebook "real name" policy has also come under scrutiny multiple
>> times and has been called discriminatory. Petition by performers,
>> which collected over 4 signatures asserts:  “Facebook tells us
>> that "it looks like you're not using your real name," before
>> requiring us to change it. We cannot emphasize enough that
>> Facebook is a poor arbiter of what is or isn't a "real name."
>> Performers with legitimate-appearing names get locked out of their
>> accounts while people with account names like "Jane
>> ICanBeBadAllByMyself Doe" go without scrutiny.”
>> 
>> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-allow-performers-to-use-their-stage-names-on-their-facebook-accounts
>> People using aboriginal names were discriminated by Facebook too.
>> 
>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/facebook-flags-aboriginal-names-as-not-authentic-1.2970993
>>
>> Just few days back, on June 30, Zuckerberg explained: “If your
>> friends all call you by a nickname and you want to use that name
>> on Facebook, you should be able to do that,” he said. In this
>> case, he said, the policy “should be able to support everyone
>> using their own real names, including everyone in the transgender
>> community.”
>>
>> So it is not clear anymore, is Zuckerberg lying to Facebook users
>> or is he simply ignora

Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?!

[Hassen]

Hi Steve,

I think Inna has worries to submit her ID through an insecure online
channel. I know the contact form use HTTPS but is there a way that she
use the PGP encryption feature that Facebook announced lately?

Thank you.
Hassen

On 04 يول, 2015 ص 03:54, Steve Weis wrote:
> Hello Inna. I work at Facebook and have contacted you from my work
> account.
>
> I'm not in a position to discuss the merits of the policy.
>
> Regardless, for future reference, under "Option 2" there is a set of
> acceptable forms of ID that are not government issued:
> https://www.facebook.com/help/159096464162185
>
> For example, a "membership card" with your birthdate and a piece of
> mail would suffice.
>
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Inna Malina  > wrote:
>
> I am a Ukrainian Canadian activist and my country of origin is at
> war. I created several groups on Facebook, including Russian
> Speaking Canada for Peace, a political forum, which debunks
> Kremlin run propaganda, and has over 1800 members. I also run
> fundraisers on Facebook to help orphaned children evacuated from
> war-torn areas of Ukraine. I am on Facebook since 2007 and don’t
> pretend to be someone I am not: the birthday, contact info, photos
> are all mine and my friends know who I am. When Russia invaded and
> annexed Ukrainian territory Crimea, I changed my legal last name
> to a pseudonym, to protect my family and people I work with
> outside social media from bullying by Putin supporters, since the
> threats and bullying online were/are abundant.  
>
> Yesterday, on Canada Day, Facebook blocked my account (obviously
> following a report from someone who tries to stop my activism) and
> demanded to confirm my name by submitting my ID online. Instead of
> ID I submitted a letter saying that I get regular threats and feel
> rather uncomfortable sending my identification documents via
> insecure online channels. I did add that I can show them to a
> legitimate representative or even in Skype, but they can’t expect
> a photocopy of a driving license or social insurance card to be
> e-mailed or submitted through some suspicious form online.
>
> Only last month Facebook has come under fire for biased political
> blocking of accounts of Russian opposition and Ukrainian activists
> who are constantly cyber-attacked by the paid army of Putin
> trolls. The petition, which has already collected close to 15000
> signatures, states:  “Facebook indiscriminately reacts to these
> reports by blocking the accounts of prominent Ukrainian public
> figures and Russian dissenters. Lately, the bans have become so
> frequent that we can now claim that Facebook has become an
> efficient tool of the Kremlin.”
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-stop-political-blocking-on-facebook
>
>  
>
> Facebook "real name" policy has also come under scrutiny multiple
> times and has been called discriminatory. Petition by performers,
> which collected over 4 signatures asserts:  “Facebook tells us
> that "it looks like you're not using your real name," before
> requiring us to change it. We cannot emphasize enough that
> Facebook is a poor arbiter of what is or isn't a "real name."
> Performers with legitimate-appearing names get locked out of their
> accounts while people with account names like "Jane
> ICanBeBadAllByMyself Doe" go without scrutiny.”
> 
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-allow-performers-to-use-their-stage-names-on-their-facebook-accounts
> People using aboriginal names were discriminated by Facebook too.
> 
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/facebook-flags-aboriginal-names-as-not-authentic-1.2970993
>
> Just few days back, on June 30, Zuckerberg explained: “If your
> friends all call you by a nickname and you want to use that name
> on Facebook, you should be able to do that,” he said. In this
> case, he said, the policy “should be able to support everyone
> using their own real names, including everyone in the transgender
> community.”
>
> So it is not clear anymore, is Zuckerberg lying to Facebook users
> or is he simply ignorant of what his staff does. *When will
> Facebook start treating its users with basic respect, when will it
> stop political blocking and discrimination?*
>
>  
>
>  
>
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Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?!

[Steve Weis]

Hello Inna. I work at Facebook and have contacted you from my work account.

I'm not in a position to discuss the merits of the policy.

Regardless, for future reference, under "Option 2" there is a set of
acceptable forms of ID that are not government issued:
https://www.facebook.com/help/159096464162185

For example, a "membership card" with your birthdate and a piece of mail
would suffice.

On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Inna Malina  wrote:

>  I am a Ukrainian Canadian activist and my country of origin is at war. I
> created several groups on Facebook, including Russian Speaking Canada for
> Peace, a political forum, which debunks Kremlin run propaganda, and has
> over 1800 members. I also run fundraisers on Facebook to help orphaned
> children evacuated from war-torn areas of Ukraine. I am on Facebook since
> 2007 and don’t pretend to be someone I am not: the birthday, contact info,
> photos are all mine and my friends know who I am. When Russia invaded and
> annexed Ukrainian territory Crimea, I changed my legal last name to a
> pseudonym, to protect my family and people I work with outside social media
> from bullying by Putin supporters, since the threats and bullying online
> were/are abundant.
>
> Yesterday, on Canada Day, Facebook blocked my account (obviously following
> a report from someone who tries to stop my activism) and demanded to
> confirm my name by submitting my ID online. Instead of ID I submitted a
> letter saying that I get regular threats and feel rather uncomfortable
> sending my identification documents via insecure online channels. I did add
> that I can show them to a legitimate representative or even in Skype, but
> they can’t expect a photocopy of a driving license or social insurance card
> to be e-mailed or submitted through some suspicious form online.
>
> Only last month Facebook has come under fire for biased political blocking
> of accounts of Russian opposition and Ukrainian activists who are
> constantly cyber-attacked by the paid army of Putin trolls. The petition,
> which has already collected close to 15000 signatures, states:  “Facebook
> indiscriminately reacts to these reports by blocking the accounts of
> prominent Ukrainian public figures and Russian dissenters. Lately, the bans
> have become so frequent that we can now claim that Facebook has become an
> efficient tool of the Kremlin.”
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-stop-political-blocking-on-facebook
>
>
>
> Facebook "real name" policy has also come under scrutiny multiple times
> and has been called discriminatory. Petition by performers, which collected
> over 4 signatures asserts:  “Facebook tells us that "it looks like
> you're not using your real name," before requiring us to change it. We
> cannot emphasize enough that Facebook is a poor arbiter of what is or isn't
> a "real name." Performers with legitimate-appearing names get locked out of
> their accounts while people with account names like "Jane
> ICanBeBadAllByMyself Doe" go without scrutiny.”
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-allow-performers-to-use-their-stage-names-on-their-facebook-accounts
> People using aboriginal names were discriminated by Facebook too.
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/facebook-flags-aboriginal-names-as-not-authentic-1.2970993
>
> Just few days back, on June 30, Zuckerberg explained: “If your friends all
> call you by a nickname and you want to use that name on Facebook, you
> should be able to do that,” he said. In this case, he said, the policy
> “should be able to support everyone using their own real names, including
> everyone in the transgender community.”
>
> So it is not clear anymore, is Zuckerberg lying to Facebook users or is he
> simply ignorant of what his staff does. *When will Facebook start
> treating its users with basic respect, when will it stop political blocking
> and discrimination?*
>
>
>
>
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Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?!

[Inna Malina]

 
I fully agree, Arzak. It is discriminatory policy and it is illegal to
demand government ID to be submitted online through insecure channels. 

Maybe we can use this case to change the policy. 

Thanks, 

Inna 

On 2015-07-03 1:09 am, Arzak Khan wrote: 

> I think Facebook real name policy is very hypocritical and is negative 
> against activists working in regions like yourself and ours in Pakistan. We 
> also have a list of Facebook users and activists pages that have been blocked 
> on reports of government supported trolls. 
> 
> I am not sure if you can unblock your ID by submitting a letter only as a 
> user is required as per their policy to submit a photo identification 
> document. 
> 
> Anyone on the list have any experience with it? 
> 
> Cheers! 
> 
> Arzak 
> 
> -
> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 21:57:13 -0600
> From: p.i...@lycos.com
> To: liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu
> Subject: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on 
> Facebook?!
> 
> I am a Ukrainian Canadian activist and my country of origin is at war. I 
> created several groups on Facebook, including Russian Speaking Canada for 
> Peace, a political forum, which debunks Kremlin run propaganda, and has over 
> 1800 members. I also run fundraisers on Facebook to help orphaned children 
> evacuated from war-torn areas of Ukraine. I am on Facebook since 2007 and 
> don't pretend to be someone I am not: the birthday, contact info, photos are 
> all mine and my friends know who I am. When Russia invaded and annexed 
> Ukrainian territory Crimea, I changed my legal last name to a pseudonym, to 
> protect my family and people I work with outside social media from bullying 
> by Putin supporters, since the threats and bullying online were/are abundant. 
> Yesterday, on Canada Day, Facebook blocked my account (obviously following a 
> report from someone who tries to stop my activism) and demanded to confirm my 
> name by submitting my ID online. Instead of ID I submitted a letter saying 
> that I get regular threats and feel rather uncomfortable sending my 
> identification documents via insecure online channels. I did add that I can 
> show them to a legitimate representative or even in Skype, but they can't 
> expect a photocopy of a driving license or social insurance card to be 
> e-mailed or submitted through some suspicious form online.
> Only last month Facebook has come under fire for biased political blocking of 
> accounts of Russian opposition and Ukrainian activists who are constantly 
> cyber-attacked by the paid army of Putin trolls. The petition, which has 
> already collected close to 15000 signatures, states: "Facebook 
> indiscriminately reacts to these reports by blocking the accounts of 
> prominent Ukrainian public figures and Russian dissenters. Lately, the bans 
> have become so frequent that we can now claim that Facebook has become an 
> efficient tool of the Kremlin." 
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-stop-political-blocking-on-facebook [1]
> 
> Facebook "real name" policy has also come under scrutiny multiple times and 
> has been called discriminatory. Petition by performers, which collected over 
> 4 signatures asserts: "Facebook tells us that "it looks like you're not 
> using your real name," before requiring us to change it. We cannot emphasize 
> enough that Facebook is a poor arbiter of what is or isn't a "real name." 
> Performers with legitimate-appearing names get locked out of their accounts 
> while people with account names like "Jane ICanBeBadAllByMyself Doe" go 
> without scrutiny." 
> https://www.change.org/p/facebook-allow-performers-to-use-their-stage-names-on-their-facebook-accounts
>  [2] People using aboriginal names were discriminated by Facebook too. 
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/facebook-flags-aboriginal-names-as-not-authentic-1.2970993
>  [3]
> Just few days back, on June 30, Zuckerberg explained: "If your friends all 
> call you by a nickname and you want to use that name on Facebook, you should 
> be able to do that," he said. In this case, he said, the policy "should be 
> able to support everyone using their own real names, including everyone in 
> the transgender community."
> So it is not clear anymore, is Zuckerberg lying to Facebook users or is he 
> simply ignorant of what his staff does. WHEN WILL FACEBOOK START TREATING ITS 
> USERS WITH BASIC RESPECT, WHEN WILL IT STOP POLITICAL BLOCKING AND 
> DISCRIMINATION?
> 
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Re: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?!

[Arzak Khan]

I think Facebook real name policy is very hypocritical and is negative against 
activists working in regions like yourself and ours in Pakistan. We also have a 
list of Facebook users and activists pages that have been blocked on reports of 
government supported trolls. 
I am not sure if you can unblock your ID by submitting a letter only as a user 
is required as per their policy to submit a photo identification document. 
Anyone on the list have any experience with it?
Cheers!
Arzak 
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 21:57:13 -0600
From: p.i...@lycos.com
To: liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu
Subject: [liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on 
Facebook?!



I am a Ukrainian Canadian activist and my country of origin is at war. I 
created several groups on Facebook, including Russian Speaking Canada for 
Peace, a political forum, which debunks Kremlin run propaganda, and has over 
1800 members. I also run fundraisers on Facebook to help orphaned children 
evacuated from war-torn areas of Ukraine. I am on Facebook since 2007 and don’t 
pretend to be someone I am not: the birthday, contact info, photos are all mine 
and my friends know who I am. When Russia invaded and annexed Ukrainian 
territory Crimea, I changed my legal last name to a pseudonym, to protect my 
family and people I work with outside social media from bullying by Putin 
supporters, since the threats and bullying online were/are abundant.  

Yesterday, on Canada Day, Facebook blocked my account (obviously following a 
report from someone who tries to stop my activism) and demanded to confirm my 
name by submitting my ID online. Instead of ID I submitted a letter saying that 
I get regular threats and feel rather uncomfortable sending my identification 
documents via insecure online channels. I did add that I can show them to a 
legitimate representative or even in Skype, but they can’t expect a photocopy 
of a driving license or social insurance card to be e-mailed or submitted 
through some suspicious form online.

Only last month Facebook has come under fire for biased political blocking of 
accounts of Russian opposition and Ukrainian activists who are constantly 
cyber-attacked by the paid army of Putin trolls. The petition, which has 
already collected close to 15000 signatures, states:  “Facebook 
indiscriminately reacts to these reports by blocking the accounts of prominent 
Ukrainian public figures and Russian dissenters. Lately, the bans have become 
so frequent that we can now claim that Facebook has become an efficient tool of 
the Kremlin.” 
https://www.change.org/p/facebook-stop-political-blocking-on-facebook

 

Facebook "real name" policy has also come under scrutiny multiple times and has 
been called discriminatory. Petition by performers, which collected over 4 
signatures asserts:  “Facebook tells us that "it looks like you're not using 
your real name," before requiring us to change it. We cannot emphasize enough 
that Facebook is a poor arbiter of what is or isn't a "real name." Performers 
with legitimate-appearing names get locked out of their accounts while people 
with account names like "Jane ICanBeBadAllByMyself Doe" go without scrutiny.” 
https://www.change.org/p/facebook-allow-performers-to-use-their-stage-names-on-their-facebook-accounts
 People using aboriginal names were discriminated by Facebook too. 
http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/facebook-flags-aboriginal-names-as-not-authentic-1.2970993

Just few days back, on June 30, Zuckerberg explained: “If your friends all call 
you by a nickname and you want to use that name on Facebook, you should be able 
to do that,” he said. In this case, he said, the policy “should be able to 
support everyone using their own real names, including everyone in the 
transgender community.”

So it is not clear anymore, is Zuckerberg lying to Facebook users or is he 
simply ignorant of what his staff does. When will Facebook start treating its 
users with basic respect, when will it stop political blocking and 
discrimination?

 

 


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[liberationtech] Can anyone help me get my account unblocked on Facebook?!

[Inna Malina]

 

I am a Ukrainian Canadian activist and my country of origin is at war. I
created several groups on Facebook, including Russian Speaking Canada
for Peace, a political forum, which debunks Kremlin run propaganda, and
has over 1800 members. I also run fundraisers on Facebook to help
orphaned children evacuated from war-torn areas of Ukraine. I am on
Facebook since 2007 and don't pretend to be someone I am not: the
birthday, contact info, photos are all mine and my friends know who I
am. When Russia invaded and annexed Ukrainian territory Crimea, I
changed my legal last name to a pseudonym, to protect my family and
people I work with outside social media from bullying by Putin
supporters, since the threats and bullying online were/are abundant. 

Yesterday, on Canada Day, Facebook blocked my account (obviously
following a report from someone who tries to stop my activism) and
demanded to confirm my name by submitting my ID online. Instead of ID I
submitted a letter saying that I get regular threats and feel rather
uncomfortable sending my identification documents via insecure online
channels. I did add that I can show them to a legitimate representative
or even in Skype, but they can't expect a photocopy of a driving license
or social insurance card to be e-mailed or submitted through some
suspicious form online. 

Only last month Facebook has come under fire for biased political
blocking of accounts of Russian opposition and Ukrainian activists who
are constantly cyber-attacked by the paid army of Putin trolls. The
petition, which has already collected close to 15000 signatures, states:
"Facebook indiscriminately reacts to these reports by blocking the
accounts of prominent Ukrainian public figures and Russian dissenters.
Lately, the bans have become so frequent that we can now claim that
Facebook has become an efficient tool of the Kremlin."
https://www.change.org/p/facebook-stop-political-blocking-on-facebook
[1] 

Facebook "real name" policy has also come under scrutiny multiple times
and has been called discriminatory. Petition by performers, which
collected over 4 signatures asserts: "Facebook tells us that "it
looks like you're not using your real name," before requiring us to
change it. We cannot emphasize enough that Facebook is a poor arbiter of
what is or isn't a "real name." Performers with legitimate-appearing
names get locked out of their accounts while people with account names
like "Jane ICanBeBadAllByMyself Doe" go without scrutiny."
https://www.change.org/p/facebook-allow-performers-to-use-their-stage-names-on-their-facebook-accounts
[2] People using aboriginal names were discriminated by Facebook too.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/facebook-flags-aboriginal-names-as-not-authentic-1.2970993
[3] 

Just few days back, on June 30, Zuckerberg explained: "If your friends
all call you by a nickname and you want to use that name on Facebook,
you should be able to do that," he said. In this case, he said, the
policy "should be able to support everyone using their own real names,
including everyone in the transgender community." 

So it is not clear anymore, is Zuckerberg lying to Facebook users or is
he simply ignorant of what his staff does. WHEN WILL FACEBOOK START
TREATING ITS USERS WITH BASIC RESPECT, WHEN WILL IT STOP POLITICAL
BLOCKING AND DISCRIMINATION? 

 

Links:
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[1]
https://www.change.org/p/facebook-stop-political-blocking-on-facebook
[2]
https://www.change.org/p/facebook-allow-performers-to-use-their-stage-names-on-their-facebook-accounts
[3]
http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/facebook-flags-aboriginal-names-as-not-authentic-1.2970993-- 
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