Re: [liberationtech] First World Internet freedom problem

2012-06-18 Thread Alex Comninos
On 15 Jun 2012 22:29, "Bill Woodcock"  wrote:

> Why?  Not arguing with you, of course, you're entitled to be offended by 
> anything you like, but I'm curious why you find it offensive.

Offended for reasons cited by Teju Cole I guess (thanks for the link
Jillian) - The suggestion that these problems cant be had in the
developing world. Such a problem could easily obtain in any country in
the developing world or third world, or whatever world.

Here is another First World Internet Freedom problem, it is called
censorship. From Google's latest transparency report which monitors
takedown requests:
http://www.indexoncensorship.org/2012/06/google-transparency-censorship/

"It’s alarming not only because free expression is at risk, but
because some of these requests come from countries you might not
suspect—Western democracies not typically associated with censorship."

"First World" countries US and Germany are number 2 and 3 on the list.
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Re: [liberationtech] First World Internet freedom problem

2012-06-15 Thread Doug Schuler

Another critique of the #firstworldproblems is that the flip side of Cole's 
perspective is also true -- "third world" problems still exist within the 
"first world."  The #firstworldproblems perspective seems to imply that the 
"first world" countries (like the US) have taken care of all the truly nasty 
problems in their countries, leaving only problems that aren't really 
"problems" at all.




On Jun 15, 2012, at 1:29 PM, Jillian C. York wrote:

> There's nothing I can say about the problem with #firstworldproblems that the 
> inimitable Teju Cole hasn't already said better:
> 
> http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/11/whats-wrong-with-firstworldproblems/248829/
> 
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Katy Pearce ucsb  
> wrote:
> 2nd world meant soviet/communist countries.
> 
> On Jun 15, 2012 1:28 PM, "Frank Corrigan"  wrote:
> So long as one remembers the origin of 'third world' meant non aligned
> to communism or capitalism. IE: Independent
> 
>  Where is the 2nd world?
> 
> School dinners in the UK is a political hot potato :-)...
> 
> So whilst the subject matter may seem trivial, it is about the health
> and well being of children and clearly lots of children around the
> UK/World starting to share photo's of School dinners may have wider
> implications to the food monopolies, that blight the Globe, than
> initially thought.
> 
> 
> The Men Who Made Us Fat
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/proginfo/2012/24/Men-Who-Made-Us-Fat.html
> 
> http://www.jamieoliver.com/school-dinners
> http://www.foodmanufacture.co.uk/Food-Safety/Food-and-drink-manufacturers-braced-for-critical-BBC-TV-obesity-series
> 
> Frank
> 
> - Original message -
> From: Katy Pearce ucsb 
> To: Doug Schuler 
> Cc: Liberation Technologies
> liberationtech@lists">liberationtech@lists">liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu>
> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] First World Internet freedom problem
> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:55:59 -0400
> 
> Can we please not use the phrase first world?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Doug Schuler <
> doug...@publicsphereproject.org> wrote:
> 
> >
> > FUN FACT!
> >
> > British school lunches were the origin of the "yellow matter custard
> > dripping from a dead dog's eye" line in the "I am the Walrus" song (by the
> > Beatles, of course).
> >
> > I was delighted to find fact in one of the Opie books.
> >
> > -- Doug
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jun 15, 2012, at 8:34 AM, James Losey wrote:
> >
> > Ban has been lifted:
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-18454800";>uk-scotland-glasgow-west-18454800">uk-scotland-glasgow-west-18454800">uk-scotland-glasgow-west-18454800
> >
> > J
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Bill Woodcock  wrote:
> >
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> >>
> >>-Bill
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Re: [liberationtech] First World Internet freedom problem

2012-06-15 Thread Sarah A. Downey
Getting butthurt about diction is such a first world problem.

Couldn't help myself.

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Katy Pearce ucsb
wrote:

> Can we please not use the phrase first world?
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Doug Schuler <
> doug...@publicsphereproject.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> FUN FACT!
>>
>> British school lunches were the origin of the "yellow matter custard
>> dripping from a dead dog's eye" line in the "I am the Walrus" song (by the
>> Beatles, of course).
>>
>> I was delighted to find fact in one of the Opie books.
>>
>> -- Doug
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 15, 2012, at 8:34 AM, James Losey wrote:
>>
>> Ban has been lifted:
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-18454800
>>
>> J
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Bill Woodcock  wrote:
>>
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>>>
>>>-Bill
>>>
>>>
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Re: [liberationtech] First World Internet freedom problem

2012-06-15 Thread Jillian C. York
There's nothing I can say about the problem with #firstworldproblems that
the inimitable Teju Cole hasn't already said better:

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/11/whats-wrong-with-firstworldproblems/248829/

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Katy Pearce ucsb wrote:

> 2nd world meant soviet/communist countries.
> On Jun 15, 2012 1:28 PM, "Frank Corrigan" 
> wrote:
>
>> So long as one remembers the origin of 'third world' meant non aligned
>> to communism or capitalism. IE: Independent
>>
>>  Where is the 2nd world?
>>
>> School dinners in the UK is a political hot potato :-)...
>>
>> So whilst the subject matter may seem trivial, it is about the health
>> and well being of children and clearly lots of children around the
>> UK/World starting to share photo's of School dinners may have wider
>> implications to the food monopolies, that blight the Globe, than
>> initially thought.
>>
>>
>> The Men Who Made Us Fat
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/proginfo/2012/24/Men-Who-Made-Us-Fat.html
>>
>> http://www.jamieoliver.com/school-dinners
>>
>> http://www.foodmanufacture.co.uk/Food-Safety/Food-and-drink-manufacturers-braced-for-critical-BBC-TV-obesity-series
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> - Original message -
>> From: Katy Pearce ucsb 
>> To: Doug Schuler 
>> Cc: Liberation Technologies
>> liberationtech@lists">liberationtech@lists">
>> liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] First World Internet freedom problem
>> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:55:59 -0400
>>
>> Can we please not use the phrase first world?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Doug Schuler <
>> doug...@publicsphereproject.org> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > FUN FACT!
>> >
>> > British school lunches were the origin of the "yellow matter custard
>> > dripping from a dead dog's eye" line in the "I am the Walrus" song (by
>> the
>> > Beatles, of course).
>> >
>> > I was delighted to find fact in one of the Opie books.
>> >
>> > -- Doug
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Jun 15, 2012, at 8:34 AM, James Losey wrote:
>> >
>> > Ban has been lifted:
>> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-18454800
>> ">uk-scotland-glasgow-west-18454800">uk-scotland-glasgow-west-18454800">uk-scotland-glasgow-west-18454800
>> >
>> > J
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Bill Woodcock  wrote:
>> >
>> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> >> Hash: SHA256
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jun/15/girl-photos-school-meals-blog?CMP=twt_gu
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>-Bill
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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Re: [liberationtech] First World Internet freedom problem

2012-06-15 Thread Katy Pearce ucsb
2nd world meant soviet/communist countries.
On Jun 15, 2012 1:28 PM, "Frank Corrigan"  wrote:

> So long as one remembers the origin of 'third world' meant non aligned
> to communism or capitalism. IE: Independent
>
>  Where is the 2nd world?
>
> School dinners in the UK is a political hot potato :-)...
>
> So whilst the subject matter may seem trivial, it is about the health
> and well being of children and clearly lots of children around the
> UK/World starting to share photo's of School dinners may have wider
> implications to the food monopolies, that blight the Globe, than
> initially thought.
>
>
> The Men Who Made Us Fat
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/proginfo/2012/24/Men-Who-Made-Us-Fat.html
>
> http://www.jamieoliver.com/school-dinners
>
> http://www.foodmanufacture.co.uk/Food-Safety/Food-and-drink-manufacturers-braced-for-critical-BBC-TV-obesity-series
>
> Frank
>
> - Original message -
> From: Katy Pearce ucsb 
> To: Doug Schuler 
> Cc: Liberation Technologies
> liberationtech@lists">liberationtech@lists">
> liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu>
> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] First World Internet freedom problem
> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:55:59 -0400
>
> Can we please not use the phrase first world?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Doug Schuler <
> doug...@publicsphereproject.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > FUN FACT!
> >
> > British school lunches were the origin of the "yellow matter custard
> > dripping from a dead dog's eye" line in the "I am the Walrus" song (by
> the
> > Beatles, of course).
> >
> > I was delighted to find fact in one of the Opie books.
> >
> > -- Doug
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jun 15, 2012, at 8:34 AM, James Losey wrote:
> >
> > Ban has been lifted:
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-18454800
> ">uk-scotland-glasgow-west-18454800">uk-scotland-glasgow-west-18454800">uk-scotland-glasgow-west-18454800
> >
> > J
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Bill Woodcock  wrote:
> >
> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> >> Hash: SHA256
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jun/15/girl-photos-school-meals-blog?CMP=twt_gu
> >>
> >>
> >>-Bill
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [liberationtech] First World Internet freedom problem

2012-06-15 Thread Alex Comninos
So the insinuation was that First World freedom problems are quaint
and funny but not so serious?

I being a "third worlder" found the title offensive, as well as the silly meme.

How is HR 347 for a First World problem?
http://open.salon.com/blog/watchingfrogsboil/2012/03/01/outlawing_occupy_hr_347_makes_free_speech_a_felony
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Re: [liberationtech] First World Internet freedom problem

2012-06-15 Thread Bill Woodcock
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On Jun 15, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Katy Pearce ucsb wrote:
> Can we please not use the phrase first world?
> Thanks.

http://memegenerator.net/instance/22050206

-Bill




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Re: [liberationtech] First World Internet freedom problem

2012-06-15 Thread Yvette Alberdingkthijm
...maybe just use the word: the world:) YAT 


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>> Thanks.
> 
> http://memegenerator.net/instance/22050206
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>-Bill
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Re: [liberationtech] First World Internet freedom problem

2012-06-15 Thread Frank Corrigan
So long as one remembers the origin of 'third world' meant non aligned
to communism or capitalism. IE: Independent

 Where is the 2nd world?

School dinners in the UK is a political hot potato :-)...

So whilst the subject matter may seem trivial, it is about the health
and well being of children and clearly lots of children around the
UK/World starting to share photo's of School dinners may have wider
implications to the food monopolies, that blight the Globe, than
initially thought.


The Men Who Made Us Fat
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/proginfo/2012/24/Men-Who-Made-Us-Fat.html

http://www.jamieoliver.com/school-dinners
http://www.foodmanufacture.co.uk/Food-Safety/Food-and-drink-manufacturers-braced-for-critical-BBC-TV-obesity-series

Frank

- Original message -
From: Katy Pearce ucsb 
To: Doug Schuler 
Cc: Liberation Technologies
liberationtech@lists">liberationtech@lists">liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu>
Subject: Re: [liberationtech] First World Internet freedom problem
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:55:59 -0400

Can we please not use the phrase first world?

Thanks.


On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Doug Schuler <
doug...@publicsphereproject.org> wrote:

>
> FUN FACT!
>
> British school lunches were the origin of the "yellow matter custard
> dripping from a dead dog's eye" line in the "I am the Walrus" song (by the
> Beatles, of course).
>
> I was delighted to find fact in one of the Opie books.
>
> -- Doug
>
>
>
> On Jun 15, 2012, at 8:34 AM, James Losey wrote:
>
> Ban has been lifted:
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-18454800";>uk-scotland-glasgow-west-18454800">uk-scotland-glasgow-west-18454800">uk-scotland-glasgow-west-18454800
>
> J
>
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Bill Woodcock  wrote:
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Re: [liberationtech] First World Internet freedom problem

2012-06-15 Thread Katy Pearce ucsb
Can we please not use the phrase first world?

Thanks.


On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Doug Schuler <
doug...@publicsphereproject.org> wrote:

>
> FUN FACT!
>
> British school lunches were the origin of the "yellow matter custard
> dripping from a dead dog's eye" line in the "I am the Walrus" song (by the
> Beatles, of course).
>
> I was delighted to find fact in one of the Opie books.
>
> -- Doug
>
>
>
> On Jun 15, 2012, at 8:34 AM, James Losey wrote:
>
> Ban has been lifted:
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-18454800
>
> J
>
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Bill Woodcock  wrote:
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>>-Bill
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Re: [liberationtech] First World Internet freedom problem

2012-06-15 Thread Doug Schuler

FUN FACT!

British school lunches were the origin of the "yellow matter custard dripping 
from a dead dog's eye" line in the "I am the Walrus" song (by the Beatles, of 
course).

I was delighted to find fact in one of the Opie books.

-- Doug



On Jun 15, 2012, at 8:34 AM, James Losey wrote:

> Ban has been lifted: 
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-18454800
> 
> J
> 
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Bill Woodcock  wrote:
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>-Bill
> 
> 
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Re: [liberationtech] First World Internet freedom problem

2012-06-15 Thread James Losey
Ban has been lifted:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-18454800

J

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[liberationtech] First World Internet freedom problem

2012-06-15 Thread Bill Woodcock
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