Re: [liberationtech] How Laura Poitras Helped Snowden Spill His Secrets
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: (possible dupe) http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/18/magazine/laura-poitras-snowden.html?ref=todayspaper_r=1pagewanted=allpagewanted=print snip “I read intelligence carefully,” said Senator Dianne Feinstein, chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, shortly after the first Snowden articles appeared. “I know that people are trying to get us. . . . This is the reason the F.B.I. now has 10,000 people doing intelligence on counterterrorism. . . . It’s to ferret this out before it happens. It’s called protecting America.” And here I thought it was called the Homeland ... at least that's what it's called on her map: http://o.canada.com/2013/08/01/canada-homeland-map/ Yay for geography and sovereignty. -- Scott Elcomb @psema4 on Twitter / Identi.ca / Github more Atomic OS: Self Contained Microsystems http://code.google.com/p/atomos/ Member of the Pirate Party of Canada http://www.pirateparty.ca/ -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] How Laura Poitras Helped Snowden Spill His Secrets
So it's now become about the heroism of the journalists and not Snowden
and mass govt surveillance.
Right.
On Thursday, August 22, 2013, Scott Elcomb wrote:
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Eugen Leitl
eu...@leitl.orgjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'eu...@leitl.org');
wrote:
(possible dupe)
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/18/magazine/laura-poitras-snowden.html?ref=todayspaper_r=1pagewanted=allpagewanted=print
snip
“I read intelligence carefully,” said Senator Dianne
Feinstein, chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, shortly after
the
first Snowden articles appeared. “I know that people are trying to get
us. .
. . This is the reason the F.B.I. now has 10,000 people doing
intelligence on
counterterrorism. . . . It’s to ferret this out before it happens. It’s
called protecting America.”
And here I thought it was called the Homeland ... at least that's what
it's called on her map:
http://o.canada.com/2013/08/01/canada-homeland-map/
Yay for geography and sovereignty.
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Re: [liberationtech] How Laura Poitras Helped Snowden Spill His Secrets
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: This past January, Laura Poitras received a curious e-mail from an anonymous stranger requesting her public encryption key. For almost two years, Poitras had been working on a documentary about surveillance, and she occasionally received queries from strangers. She replied to this one and sent her public key — allowing him or her to send an encrypted e-mail that only Poitras could open, with her private key Then the NSA MitMed her unauthenticated plaintext email, replacing her public key with theirs, and were able to intercept all of the Snowden emails. Oops! -- Tony Arcieri -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] How Laura Poitras Helped Snowden Spill His Secrets
Wow. It had to be someone. Who would you have had it been? On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Tony Arcieri basc...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: This past January, Laura Poitras received a curious e-mail from an anonymous stranger requesting her public encryption key. For almost two years, Poitras had been working on a documentary about surveillance, and she occasionally received queries from strangers. She replied to this one and sent her public key — allowing him or her to send an encrypted e-mail that only Poitras could open, with her private key Then the NSA MitMed her unauthenticated plaintext email, replacing her public key with theirs, and were able to intercept all of the Snowden emails. Oops! -- Tony Arcieri -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu. -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] How Laura Poitras Helped Snowden Spill His Secrets
Tom O wrote: So it's now become about the heroism of the journalists and not Snowden and mass govt surveillance. Right. There's enough heroism to go around. To get a story of this magnitude out requires courage from both sources and journalists. And safety is in no way guaranteed for anyone involved. Plenty of journalists have lost their lives in the course of their job, but the truth is that courage is truly contagious -- journalists know this and hope that follow-on coverage will help protect them from retribution. Silence in the face of wrongdoing is corrosive. It will eat you alive if you let it. =/ ~Griffin -- Cypherpunks write code not flame wars. --Jurre van Bergen #Foucault / PGP: 0xAE792C97 / OTR: sa...@jabber.ccc.de My posts, while frequently amusing, are not representative of the thoughts of my employer. -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] How Laura Poitras Helped Snowden Spill His Secrets
--snip-- There's enough heroism to go around. To get a story of this magnitude out requires courage from both sources and journalists. And safety is in no way guaranteed for anyone involved. Plenty of journalists have lost their lives in the course of their job, but the truth is that courage is truly contagious -- journalists know this and hope that follow-on coverage will help protect them from retribution. Silence in the face of wrongdoing is corrosive. It will eat you alive if you let it. =/ --snip-- You got that right! On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Griffin Boyce griffinbo...@gmail.com wrote: Tom O wrote: So it's now become about the heroism of the journalists and not Snowden and mass govt surveillance. Right. There's enough heroism to go around. To get a story of this magnitude out requires courage from both sources and journalists. And safety is in no way guaranteed for anyone involved. Plenty of journalists have lost their lives in the course of their job, but the truth is that courage is truly contagious -- journalists know this and hope that follow-on coverage will help protect them from retribution. Silence in the face of wrongdoing is corrosive. It will eat you alive if you let it. =/ ~Griffin -- Cypherpunks write code not flame wars. --Jurre van Bergen #Foucault / PGP: 0xAE792C97 / OTR: sa...@jabber.ccc.de My posts, while frequently amusing, are not representative of the thoughts of my employer. -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu. -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] How Laura Poitras Helped Snowden Spill His Secrets
There's enough heroism to go around. To get a story of this magnitude out requires courage from both sources and journalists. And safety is in no way guaranteed for anyone involved. Plenty of journalists have lost their lives in the course of their job, but the truth is that courage is truly contagious -- journalists know this and hope that follow-on coverage will help protect them from retribution. Silence in the face of wrongdoing is corrosive. It will eat you alive if you let it. =/ Thanks for that. Griffin. Just putting a good word in for documentary filmmakers and investigative journalists who also put their lives on the line, to shape, frame, and communicate these stories and set a stage for activists to do their end of the job. I work with a number of them who don't think of themselves as heroes, but are just driven to do this work through a sense of social justice. Lina On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 6:19 PM, LilBambi lilba...@gmail.com wrote: --snip-- There's enough heroism to go around. To get a story of this magnitude out requires courage from both sources and journalists. And safety is in no way guaranteed for anyone involved. Plenty of journalists have lost their lives in the course of their job, but the truth is that courage is truly contagious -- journalists know this and hope that follow-on coverage will help protect them from retribution. Silence in the face of wrongdoing is corrosive. It will eat you alive if you let it. =/ --snip-- You got that right! On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Griffin Boyce griffinbo...@gmail.com wrote: Tom O wrote: So it's now become about the heroism of the journalists and not Snowden and mass govt surveillance. Right. There's enough heroism to go around. To get a story of this magnitude out requires courage from both sources and journalists. And safety is in no way guaranteed for anyone involved. Plenty of journalists have lost their lives in the course of their job, but the truth is that courage is truly contagious -- journalists know this and hope that follow-on coverage will help protect them from retribution. Silence in the face of wrongdoing is corrosive. It will eat you alive if you let it. =/ ~Griffin -- Cypherpunks write code not flame wars. --Jurre van Bergen #Foucault / PGP: 0xAE792C97 / OTR: sa...@jabber.ccc.de My posts, while frequently amusing, are not representative of the thoughts of my employer. -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu. -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu. -- Lina Srivastava -- linasrivastava.com | twitter | linkedin -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] How Laura Poitras Helped Snowden Spill His Secrets
And that is a very noble cause. On Aug 21, 2013, at 6:33 PM, Lina Srivastava l...@linasrivastava.com wrote: There's enough heroism to go around. To get a story of this magnitude out requires courage from both sources and journalists. And safety is in no way guaranteed for anyone involved. Plenty of journalists have lost their lives in the course of their job, but the truth is that courage is truly contagious -- journalists know this and hope that follow-on coverage will help protect them from retribution. Silence in the face of wrongdoing is corrosive. It will eat you alive if you let it. =/ Thanks for that. Griffin. Just putting a good word in for documentary filmmakers and investigative journalists who also put their lives on the line, to shape, frame, and communicate these stories and set a stage for activists to do their end of the job. I work with a number of them who don't think of themselves as heroes, but are just driven to do this work through a sense of social justice. Lina On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 6:19 PM, LilBambi lilba...@gmail.com wrote: --snip-- There's enough heroism to go around. To get a story of this magnitude out requires courage from both sources and journalists. And safety is in no way guaranteed for anyone involved. Plenty of journalists have lost their lives in the course of their job, but the truth is that courage is truly contagious -- journalists know this and hope that follow-on coverage will help protect them from retribution. Silence in the face of wrongdoing is corrosive. It will eat you alive if you let it. =/ --snip-- You got that right! On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Griffin Boyce griffinbo...@gmail.com wrote: Tom O wrote: So it's now become about the heroism of the journalists and not Snowden and mass govt surveillance. Right. There's enough heroism to go around. To get a story of this magnitude out requires courage from both sources and journalists. And safety is in no way guaranteed for anyone involved. Plenty of journalists have lost their lives in the course of their job, but the truth is that courage is truly contagious -- journalists know this and hope that follow-on coverage will help protect them from retribution. Silence in the face of wrongdoing is corrosive. It will eat you alive if you let it. =/ ~Griffin -- Cypherpunks write code not flame wars. --Jurre van Bergen #Foucault / PGP: 0xAE792C97 / OTR: sa...@jabber.ccc.de My posts, while frequently amusing, are not representative of the thoughts of my employer. -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu. -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu. -- Lina Srivastava -- linasrivastava.com | twitter | linkedin -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu. -- Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
