Re: [liberationtech] Mapping out physical surveillance across a city
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 11:17:31AM -0700, Lucas Gonze wrote: If anybody comes up with a such a map for the bay area, I'd love to see it. You may be interested in the hackathon being held on Sat July 12 at Swissnex: The Hidden City: From Surveillance to Sousveillance A hack day and workshop with !Mediengruppe Bitnik through the hidden San Francisco. http://swissnexsanfrancisco.org/Ourwork/events/HiddenCity/ part of a larger series of events, http://swissnexsanfrancisco.org/Ourwork/events/hacktivism (full disclosure, I'm on the program as well so I suppose this counts as self-advertising.) -andy -- Liberationtech is public archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] Mapping out physical surveillance across a city
On 25/06/14 19:03, Blibbet wrote: How would one map an entire city's surveillance anyway? Are the location of police cameras available? And even if they are, how does one map out all the private cameras watching? To the OP, Seattle Privacy http://seattleprivacy.org/ has a map of Seattle.gov's mesh network, at least parts of it. (didn't see this message go through, sending it again, sorry if it did go through the first time!) Hi everyone, There have been a few projects in France on this issue, the most active I know of is www.sous-surveillance.net, which has specific subdomains for each city (and pretty cool stickers): http://paris.sous-surveillance.net http://lyon.sous-surveillance.net etc. People can add cameras and different details : location, type, who operates them, etc. There is also a similar project on OpenStreetMap and quite a few cameras are in the OSM database. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Key:Surveillance http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/surveillance#map I think in time, the plan was to merge the sous-surveillance data with the general OSM one, but I have no idea where that plan currently stands. I also recall seeing a similar project on Berlin a while back, but I can't find it right now. One question, when you say physical surveillance, are you thinking of anything beyond surveillance cameras? Guards? One last thing, you can sometimes find the location of city/state cameras in open data programmes. It's the case for Paris. Cheers axel -- Liberationtech is public archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] Mapping out physical surveillance across a city
On 24/06/14 20:19, Patrick wrote: How would one map an entire city's surveillance anyway? Are the location of police cameras available? And even if they are, how does one map out all the private cameras watching? Is there some tech that could be used to do that? Government cameras may well be available through freedom of information laws. For example, here is a request that got the locations of cameras in one district of London: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/surveillance_cameras In other places, the government will even pro-actively give out that information. e.g. here's a government-produced spreadsheet location of cameras in Nottingham, UK: http://www.opendatanottingham.org.uk/dataset.aspx?id=39 It might be useful just to collect together these existing resources on a national or global level; I'd be up for helping with something like that. On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Lucas Gonze lucas.go...@gmail.com mailto:lucas.go...@gmail.com wrote: If anybody comes up with a such a map for the bay area, I'd love to see it. -- Liberationtech is public archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu mailto:compa...@stanford.edu. -- Dan O'Huiginn -- Liberationtech is public archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] Mapping out physical surveillance across a city
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Patrick ape...@gmail.com wrote: How would one map an entire city's surveillance anyway? Are the location of police cameras available? And even if they are, how does one map out all the private cameras watching? you compromise all of a city's network communications. hardlines (coax and fibre), wireless (open spectrum 802.x or closed spectrum cell). the video feeds stick out nicely from other traffic behavior... ;) -- Liberationtech is public archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] Mapping out physical surveillance across a city
How would one map an entire city's surveillance anyway? Are the location of police cameras available? And even if they are, how does one map out all the private cameras watching? To the OP, Seattle Privacy http://seattleprivacy.org/ has a map of Seattle.gov's mesh network, at least parts of it. -- Liberationtech is public archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
[liberationtech] Mapping out physical surveillance across a city
Dear all, Is anyone aware of any public project that maps out physical surveillance done on a city-wide scale? A map of the all the surveillance cameras in public open areas could be a cool project to see. Cody Tarrant -- Liberationtech is public archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] Mapping out physical surveillance across a city
This project has a different purpose (finding 'safer' areas) but does plot cameras on a map for few cities in the US: http://www.videosurveillance.com/ Looks like it relies on crowd sourcing for the locations of cameras. On 2014-06-24 15:16, Cody Tarrant wrote: Is anyone aware of any public project that maps out physical surveillance done on a city-wide scale? A map of the all the surveillance cameras in public open areas could be a cool project to see. -- Liberationtech is public archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] Mapping out physical surveillance across a city
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This might be a version of what you're looking for Cody: http://civic.mit.edu/blog/beckyh/icu-oakland-surveillance-camera-walking-tours-and-anti-surveillance-community-organizing. On 6/24/14 9:40 AM, dun...@openmailbox.org wrote: This project has a different purpose (finding 'safer' areas) but does plot cameras on a map for few cities in the US: http://www.videosurveillance.com/ Looks like it relies on crowd sourcing for the locations of cameras. On 2014-06-24 15:16, Cody Tarrant wrote: Is anyone aware of any public project that maps out physical surveillance done on a city-wide scale? A map of the all the surveillance cameras in public open areas could be a cool project to see. - -- Seeta Peña Gangadharan, PhD Senior Research Fellow, Open Technology Institute New America Foundation 199 Lafayette St., #301 New York, NY 10012 o: 212-625-4875 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.18 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTqYgOAAoJEB+73wytBNopCi0H/j2ZoX8Gv8lP0fUm9YuYTKG6 WaE2bSZqRFru5wADCgxVscj2aP1K4gFP3QRCY3B3e2bHxygS6fE/rPQLYBVfbCYJ 7iHAzWaAGG9jiZETD/GMl+lq8MAw3MVlk70qqWrdWz33x5YXuJCS3QJ1kLCflOAw VOAcRQij80GxFHEy44N3Gvhgq0+Kx0Hv35OQL79p7mRBzCe0r3WEdvwAB8Yz3D4j djbmQGig4Y06vY4DOWdG5gBKm/vI8GA/TdsPg3vZ6kQpHLCGGL8Xamw5bHbXt2ca SxazI1sUm7p46Ml+n1/sXgwUQ6zP8Jzy4gW0f2DVf2BEgSg7W+NFIG9vado4eTg= =eguz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Liberationtech is public archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] Mapping out physical surveillance across a city
If anybody comes up with a such a map for the bay area, I'd love to see it. -- Liberationtech is public archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
