Re: [liberationtech] Surviving the Coming Data Purge (was: economic cost of lost emails.)
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014, at 18:55, Al Billings wrote: On Aug 24, 2014, at 1:20 PM, taltman taltm...@stanford.edu wrote: Everything online is ephemeral. Just look at studies on link rot: http://www.gwern.net/Archiving%20URLs For storing the totality of humanity's work, we need to design something more like the Svalbard Global Seed Vault: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svalbard_Global_Seed_Vault Someone explain to me why I’d *want* my emails stored until the end of time. I’d rather they rot and disappear if I made no effort to keep them. That said, the NSA has a pretty good archive. Jokes about the NSA's archive of your email are cute and all but they miss the point. The goal is to ensure the survival not of conformity or trivia, but of dissent. The Svalbard Global Seed Vault is a good analogy--storing a hundred million seeds of the radiata pine or GMO corn is great if you're Monsanto but somewhat less good if you want to ensure genetic diversity. A purge is coming. First of data, then of users. Distributed, decentralized data will survive. Users in countries hostile to American interests will (hopefully) also survive. Plan ahead. Jens -- J.M. Porup www.JMPorup.com -- Liberationtech is public archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] Surviving the Coming Data Purge (was: economic cost of lost emails.)
On Aug 24, 2014, at 3:11 PM, J.M. Porup j...@porup.com wrote: The goal is to ensure the survival not of conformity or trivia, but of dissent. Whose goal? A purge is coming. First of data, then of users. Distributed, decentralized data will survive. Users in countries hostile to American interests will (hopefully) also survive. /me puts on tinfoil hat. -- Liberationtech is public archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] Surviving the Coming Data Purge (was: economic cost of lost emails.)
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014, at 19:29, Al Billings wrote: On Aug 24, 2014, at 3:11 PM, J.M. Porup j...@porup.com wrote: The goal is to ensure the survival not of conformity or trivia, but of dissent. Whose goal? Those of us who do not wish to see an end to art, to science, to all meaningful colloquy. A purge is coming. First of data, then of users. Distributed, decentralized data will survive. Users in countries hostile to American interests will (hopefully) also survive. /me puts on tinfoil hat. Just imagine, Wiesenthal, that you were arriving in New York, and the people asked you, “How was it in those German concentration camps? What did they do to you?” [. . .] You would tell the truth to the people in America. That’s right. And you know what would happen, Wiesenthal? [. . .] They wouldn’t believe you. They’d say you were crazy. Might even put you into a madhouse. SS-Rottenführer Merz speaking to Simon Wiesenthal, September, 1944 Heil America, Jens -- J.M. Porup www.JMPorup.com -- Liberationtech is public archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] Surviving the Coming Data Purge (was: economic cost of lost emails.)
No offense but those things aren’t contained in my email. On Aug 24, 2014, at 3:58 PM, J.M. Porup j...@porup.com wrote: Those of us who do not wish to see an end to art, to science, to all meaningful colloquy. -- Liberationtech is public archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
