[liberationtech] what to install on a secure communication device

2013-08-31 Thread Eugen Leitl

I'm looking to build a list for reasonably secure (no snake oil)
ways to communicate (search, store, etc.). My ad hoc list so far is:

Pidgin/OTR
cables 
Jitsi
Tor
YaCy
RetroShare
TorChat
Tahoe LAFS
GnuNet

No doubt I'm missing a lot. Any further suggestions?
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Re: [liberationtech] what to install on a secure communication device

2013-08-31 Thread andreas . bader
Why not also JonDonym? The problem with TOR for productivity is its bandwith.
There are also some pretty good commercial services.

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I'm looking to build a list for reasonably secure (no snake oil)
ways to communicate (search, store, etc.). My ad hoc list so far is:

Pidgin/OTR
cables 
Jitsi
Tor
YaCy
RetroShare
TorChat
Tahoe LAFS
GnuNet

No doubt I'm missing a lot. Any further suggestions?
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Re: [liberationtech] what to install on a secure communication device

2013-08-31 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 10:46:15AM +, andreas.ba...@nachtpult.de wrote:
> Why not also JonDonym? The problem with TOR for productivity is its bandwith.

Because it's officially backdoored.

> There are also some pretty good commercial services.
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Re: [liberationtech] what to install on a secure communication device

2013-08-31 Thread Tom O
Is irssi-otr working yet? You could add that. Mixmaster/mixminion?

On Saturday, August 31, 2013, Eugen Leitl wrote:

>
> I'm looking to build a list for reasonably secure (no snake oil)
> ways to communicate (search, store, etc.). My ad hoc list so far is:
>
> Pidgin/OTR
> cables
> Jitsi
> Tor
> YaCy
> RetroShare
> TorChat
> Tahoe LAFS
> GnuNet
>
> No doubt I'm missing a lot. Any further suggestions?
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Re: [liberationtech] what to install on a secure communication device

2013-08-31 Thread andreas . bader
You should also think of the OS, due to the NSA scandal closed source OSes like 
OS X and Microsoft Windows are unusable. How about something pseudo-commercial 
like SL or CentOS?
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Re: [liberationtech] what to install on a secure communication device

2013-08-31 Thread Ben Laurie
On 31 August 2013 12:43, Tom O  wrote:

> Is irssi-otr working yet?


irssi-otr has mostly worked for ages.


> You could add that. Mixmaster/mixminion?
>
>
> On Saturday, August 31, 2013, Eugen Leitl wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm looking to build a list for reasonably secure (no snake oil)
>> ways to communicate (search, store, etc.). My ad hoc list so far is:
>>
>> Pidgin/OTR
>> cables
>> Jitsi
>> Tor
>> YaCy
>> RetroShare
>> TorChat
>> Tahoe LAFS
>> GnuNet
>>
>> No doubt I'm missing a lot. Any further suggestions?
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Re: [liberationtech] what to install on a secure communication device

2013-08-31 Thread Tom O
That's good news then

On Saturday, August 31, 2013, Ben Laurie wrote:

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> On 31 August 2013 12:43, Tom O  'cvml', 'winterfi...@gmail.com');>> wrote:
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>> Is irssi-otr working yet?
>
>
> irssi-otr has mostly worked for ages.
>
>
>> You could add that. Mixmaster/mixminion?
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, August 31, 2013, Eugen Leitl wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I'm looking to build a list for reasonably secure (no snake oil)
>>> ways to communicate (search, store, etc.). My ad hoc list so far is:
>>>
>>> Pidgin/OTR
>>> cables
>>> Jitsi
>>> Tor
>>> YaCy
>>> RetroShare
>>> TorChat
>>> Tahoe LAFS
>>> GnuNet
>>>
>>> No doubt I'm missing a lot. Any further suggestions?
>>> --
>>> Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google.
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Re: [liberationtech] what to install on a secure communication device

2013-08-31 Thread Jonathan Wilkes

On 08/31/2013 04:47 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote:

I'm looking to build a list for reasonably secure (no snake oil)
ways to communicate (search, store, etc.). My ad hoc list so far is:

Pidgin/OTR
cables
Jitsi
Tor
YaCy
RetroShare
TorChat
Tahoe LAFS
GnuNet

No doubt I'm missing a lot. Any further suggestions?


One of those nine software titles you've listed does _not_ give you
reasonable security ATM, as outlined by the author on the front
page of the website that explains what the software does.

Since that author took the time to describe the current state of
the software as a reaction to increased interest in that software
(very cool), I'd suggest having a look and reading it fully.

Best,
Jonathan
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Re: [liberationtech] what to install on a secure communication device

2013-08-31 Thread DataPacRat
On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 4:47 AM, Eugen Leitl  wrote:
>
> I'm looking to build a list for reasonably secure (no snake oil)
> ways to communicate (search, store, etc.). My ad hoc list so far is:
>
> Pidgin/OTR
> cables
> Jitsi
> Tor
> YaCy
> RetroShare
> TorChat
> Tahoe LAFS
> GnuNet
>
> No doubt I'm missing a lot. Any further suggestions?

TrueCrypt-encrypted data saved on microSD cards sent over sneakernet,
optionally hidden in a hollow bootheel?

Small amounts of sensitive data stored in innocuous-seeming formats
through steganography (eg,
http://www.jjtc.com/Steganography/tools.html ), made publicly
available?


Thank you for your time,
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