Re: [liberationtech] How Laura Poitras Helped Snowden Spill His Secrets

2013-08-21 Thread Fran Parker 
And that is a very noble cause. 

On Aug 21, 2013, at 6:33 PM, Lina Srivastava  wrote:

> "There's enough heroism to go around. To get a story of this magnitude
> out requires courage from both sources and journalists. And safety is in
> no way guaranteed for anyone involved. Plenty of journalists have lost
> their lives in the course of their job, but the truth is that courage is
> truly contagious -- journalists know this and hope that follow-on
> coverage will help protect them from retribution.
> 
> Silence in the face of wrongdoing is corrosive. It will eat you alive
> if you let it. =/"
> 
> Thanks for that. Griffin. Just putting a good word in for documentary
> filmmakers and investigative journalists who also put their lives on
> the line, to shape, frame, and communicate these stories and set a
> stage for activists to do their end of the job. I work with a number
> of them who don't think of themselves as heroes, but are just driven
> to do this work through a sense of social justice.
> 
> Lina
> 
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 6:19 PM, LilBambi  wrote:
>> --snip--
>>  There's enough heroism to go around. To get a story of this magnitude
>> out requires courage from both sources and journalists. And safety is in
>> no way guaranteed for anyone involved. Plenty of journalists have lost
>> their lives in the course of their job, but the truth is that courage is
>> truly contagious -- journalists know this and hope that follow-on
>> coverage will help protect them from retribution.
>> 
>>  Silence in the face of wrongdoing is corrosive. It will eat you alive
>> if you let it. =/
>> --snip--
>> 
>> You got that right!
>> 
>> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Griffin Boyce  
>> wrote:
>>> Tom O wrote:
 So it's now become about the "heroism" of the journalists and not
 Snowden and mass govt surveillance. Right.
>>>  There's enough heroism to go around. To get a story of this magnitude
>>> out requires courage from both sources and journalists. And safety is in
>>> no way guaranteed for anyone involved. Plenty of journalists have lost
>>> their lives in the course of their job, but the truth is that courage is
>>> truly contagious -- journalists know this and hope that follow-on
>>> coverage will help protect them from retribution.
>>> 
>>>  Silence in the face of wrongdoing is corrosive. It will eat you alive
>>> if you let it. =/
>>> 
>>> ~Griffin
>>> 
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>>> of my employer.
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Re: [liberationtech] How Laura Poitras Helped Snowden Spill His Secrets

2013-08-21 Thread Lina Srivastava 
"There's enough heroism to go around. To get a story of this magnitude
out requires courage from both sources and journalists. And safety is in
no way guaranteed for anyone involved. Plenty of journalists have lost
their lives in the course of their job, but the truth is that courage is
truly contagious -- journalists know this and hope that follow-on
coverage will help protect them from retribution.

Silence in the face of wrongdoing is corrosive. It will eat you alive
if you let it. =/"

Thanks for that. Griffin. Just putting a good word in for documentary
filmmakers and investigative journalists who also put their lives on
the line, to shape, frame, and communicate these stories and set a
stage for activists to do their end of the job. I work with a number
of them who don't think of themselves as heroes, but are just driven
to do this work through a sense of social justice.

Lina

On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 6:19 PM, LilBambi  wrote:
> --snip--
>   There's enough heroism to go around. To get a story of this magnitude
> out requires courage from both sources and journalists. And safety is in
> no way guaranteed for anyone involved. Plenty of journalists have lost
> their lives in the course of their job, but the truth is that courage is
> truly contagious -- journalists know this and hope that follow-on
> coverage will help protect them from retribution.
>
>   Silence in the face of wrongdoing is corrosive. It will eat you alive
> if you let it. =/
> --snip--
>
> You got that right!
>
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Griffin Boyce  wrote:
>> Tom O wrote:
>>> So it's now become about the "heroism" of the journalists and not
>>> Snowden and mass govt surveillance. Right.
>>   There's enough heroism to go around. To get a story of this magnitude
>> out requires courage from both sources and journalists. And safety is in
>> no way guaranteed for anyone involved. Plenty of journalists have lost
>> their lives in the course of their job, but the truth is that courage is
>> truly contagious -- journalists know this and hope that follow-on
>> coverage will help protect them from retribution.
>>
>>   Silence in the face of wrongdoing is corrosive. It will eat you alive
>> if you let it. =/
>>
>> ~Griffin
>>
>> --
>> "Cypherpunks write code not flame wars." --Jurre van Bergen
>> #Foucault / PGP: 0xAE792C97 / OTR: sa...@jabber.ccc.de
>>
>> My posts, while frequently amusing, are not representative of the thoughts 
>> of my employer.
>>
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Re: [liberationtech] How Laura Poitras Helped Snowden Spill His Secrets

2013-08-21 Thread LilBambi 
--snip--
  There's enough heroism to go around. To get a story of this magnitude
out requires courage from both sources and journalists. And safety is in
no way guaranteed for anyone involved. Plenty of journalists have lost
their lives in the course of their job, but the truth is that courage is
truly contagious -- journalists know this and hope that follow-on
coverage will help protect them from retribution.

  Silence in the face of wrongdoing is corrosive. It will eat you alive
if you let it. =/
--snip--

You got that right!

On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Griffin Boyce  wrote:
> Tom O wrote:
>> So it's now become about the "heroism" of the journalists and not
>> Snowden and mass govt surveillance. Right.
>   There's enough heroism to go around. To get a story of this magnitude
> out requires courage from both sources and journalists. And safety is in
> no way guaranteed for anyone involved. Plenty of journalists have lost
> their lives in the course of their job, but the truth is that courage is
> truly contagious -- journalists know this and hope that follow-on
> coverage will help protect them from retribution.
>
>   Silence in the face of wrongdoing is corrosive. It will eat you alive
> if you let it. =/
>
> ~Griffin
>
> --
> "Cypherpunks write code not flame wars." --Jurre van Bergen
> #Foucault / PGP: 0xAE792C97 / OTR: sa...@jabber.ccc.de
>
> My posts, while frequently amusing, are not representative of the thoughts of 
> my employer.
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Re: [liberationtech] How Laura Poitras Helped Snowden Spill His Secrets

2013-08-21 Thread Griffin Boyce 
Tom O wrote:
> So it's now become about the "heroism" of the journalists and not
> Snowden and mass govt surveillance. Right.
  There's enough heroism to go around. To get a story of this magnitude
out requires courage from both sources and journalists. And safety is in
no way guaranteed for anyone involved. Plenty of journalists have lost
their lives in the course of their job, but the truth is that courage is
truly contagious -- journalists know this and hope that follow-on
coverage will help protect them from retribution.

  Silence in the face of wrongdoing is corrosive. It will eat you alive
if you let it. =/

~Griffin

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My posts, while frequently amusing, are not representative of the thoughts of 
my employer. 

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Re: [liberationtech] How Laura Poitras Helped Snowden Spill His Secrets

2013-08-21 Thread LilBambi 
Wow. It had to be someone. Who would you have had it been?

On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Tony Arcieri  wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Eugen Leitl  wrote:
>>
>> This past January, Laura Poitras received a curious e-mail from an
>> anonymous
>> stranger requesting her public encryption key. For almost two years,
>> Poitras
>> had been working on a documentary about surveillance, and she occasionally
>> received queries from strangers. She replied to this one and sent her
>> public
>> key — allowing him or her to send an encrypted e-mail that only Poitras
>> could
>> open, with her private key
>
>
> Then the NSA MitMed her unauthenticated plaintext email, replacing her
> public key with theirs, and were able to intercept all of the Snowden
> emails. Oops!
>
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Re: [liberationtech] How Laura Poitras Helped Snowden Spill His Secrets

2013-08-21 Thread Tony Arcieri 
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Eugen Leitl  wrote:

> This past January, Laura Poitras received a curious e-mail from an
> anonymous
> stranger requesting her public encryption key. For almost two years,
> Poitras
> had been working on a documentary about surveillance, and she occasionally
> received queries from strangers. She replied to this one and sent her
> public
> key — allowing him or her to send an encrypted e-mail that only Poitras
> could
> open, with her private key


Then the NSA MitMed her unauthenticated plaintext email, replacing her
public key with theirs, and were able to intercept all of the Snowden
emails. Oops!

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Re: [liberationtech] How Laura Poitras Helped Snowden Spill His Secrets

2013-08-21 Thread Tom O 
So it's now become about the "heroism" of the journalists and not Snowden
and mass govt surveillance.

Right.

On Thursday, August 22, 2013, Scott Elcomb wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Eugen Leitl 
> 
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> (possible dupe)
>>
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/18/magazine/laura-poitras-snowden.html?ref=todayspaper&_r=1&&pagewanted=all&pagewanted=print
>
> 
>
>>
>> “I read intelligence carefully,” said Senator Dianne
>> Feinstein, chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, shortly after
>> the
>> first Snowden articles appeared. “I know that people are trying to get
>> us. .
>> . . This is the reason the F.B.I. now has 10,000 people doing
>> intelligence on
>> counterterrorism. . . . It’s to ferret this out before it happens. It’s
>> called protecting America.”
>
>
> And here I thought it was called the "Homeland" ... at least that's what
> it's called on her map: <
> http://o.canada.com/2013/08/01/canada-homeland-map/>
>
> Yay for geography and sovereignty.
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Re: [liberationtech] How Laura Poitras Helped Snowden Spill His Secrets

2013-08-21 Thread Scott Elcomb 
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Eugen Leitl  wrote:

>
> (possible dupe)
>
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/18/magazine/laura-poitras-snowden.html?ref=todayspaper&_r=1&&pagewanted=all&pagewanted=print



>
> “I read intelligence carefully,” said Senator Dianne
> Feinstein, chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, shortly after
> the
> first Snowden articles appeared. “I know that people are trying to get us.
> .
> . . This is the reason the F.B.I. now has 10,000 people doing intelligence
> on
> counterterrorism. . . . It’s to ferret this out before it happens. It’s
> called protecting America.”


And here I thought it was called the "Homeland" ... at least that's what
it's called on her map: 

Yay for geography and sovereignty.

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