Re: [liberationtech] My rant to demandprogress

[David Moon]

RE: On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Uncle Zzzen wrote:

> If you sometimes put demandprogress banners on your sites, I think you
> should be concerned about this:
> https://dubiousdod.org/blog/i-feel-used.html



Ah yes, belated apologies for our delay in updating folks on the Kirstaeng
v. Wiley situation. I just emailed the blogger in question. We've been
digging out from work after the election (and of course Hurricane pause -
where I was stranded out of the country - oy!).

In any case, over 2,000 sites participated in the day of action, and we're
noticing a shift in the dialogue (see eg: google news search on "Kirstaeng
v. Wiley"). Here's an early article:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/29/kirtsaeng-v-john-wiley-and-sons_n_2039997.html?utm_hp_ref=technology&ir=Technology

We're optimistic we may win in court (decision around June), but either way
this will likely end up as an issue in Congress. We're already hearing
murmurs that industry lobbyists are setting up meetings on the Hill to
pitch their case to restrict consumers from being able to re-sell their
goods. Over the coming weeks and months, we'll be building out activities
to try and counter this effort and build awareness among ordinary Internet
users and members of Congress about the erosion of "First Sale."

Stay tuned & thanks again (sorry for the delay)!  Lots more info at:
http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/kirtsaeng-v-john-wiley-sons-inc/

-David @ Demand Progress

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Re: [liberationtech] My rant to demandprogress

[Uncle Zzzen]

Hi, David.
Sorry to hear about all those SANFUs.

Nevertheless, I think there should be some methodology or "code of conduct"
for anyone requesting others to put a banner:
A banner should never lead to an irrelevant page (at least if nothing major
goes wrong).

In most cases, a single large link (e.g. to the campaign's blog) can solve
this, but "eternal relevance" is a prerequisite that should be dealt with
even before you offer the banner to webmasters. Otherwise, it's quite a lot
of work to "weed out" banners from many sites the day the page they lead to
stops being relevant.

For example - yesterday I've discovered yet-another ball-and-chain banner
on a blog I forgot about (hopefully, it's the last one). This is what
triggered my rant :)

All the best,
The Dod


On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 5:18 AM, David Moon  wrote:

>
> RE: On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Uncle Zzzen wrote:
>
>> If you sometimes put demandprogress banners on your sites, I think you
>> should be concerned about this:
>> https://dubiousdod.org/blog/i-feel-used.html
>
>
>
> Ah yes, belated apologies for our delay in updating folks on the Kirstaeng
> v. Wiley situation. I just emailed the blogger in question. We've been
> digging out from work after the election (and of course Hurricane pause -
> where I was stranded out of the country - oy!).
>
> In any case, over 2,000 sites participated in the day of action, and we're
> noticing a shift in the dialogue (see eg: google news search on "Kirstaeng
> v. Wiley"). Here's an early article:
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/29/kirtsaeng-v-john-wiley-and-sons_n_2039997.html?utm_hp_ref=technology&ir=Technology
>
> We're optimistic we may win in court (decision around June), but either
> way this will likely end up as an issue in Congress. We're already hearing
> murmurs that industry lobbyists are setting up meetings on the Hill to
> pitch their case to restrict consumers from being able to re-sell their
> goods. Over the coming weeks and months, we'll be building out activities
> to try and counter this effort and build awareness among ordinary Internet
> users and members of Congress about the erosion of "First Sale."
>
> Stay tuned & thanks again (sorry for the delay)!  Lots more info at:
> http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/kirtsaeng-v-john-wiley-sons-inc/
>
> -David @ Demand Progress
>
> --
> David Moon, Program Director
> Demand Progress
>
>
> *Demand Progress works to win progressive policy changes for ordinary
> people through organizing, lobbying, and elections in the United States.*
>
> www.DemandProgress.org 
>
> Paid for by Demand Progress (DemandProgress.org) and not authorized by any
> candidate or candidate's committee. Contributions to Demand Progress are
> not deductible as charitable contributions for federal income tax purposes.
>



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