Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice-Plug-In for Netbeans?

2010-12-06 Thread Cedric Bosdonnat
Hi Andreas,

On Sat, 2010-12-04 at 17:13 +0100, Andreas Mantke wrote:
 there is already a Netbeans-Plug-In for OOo. But this plug-in doesn't work 
 for me 
 with LibreOffice and it's SDK. Because of this I'm curious, if someone is 
 working on 
 such a plug-in for LibreOffice.

It's very unlikely that the guys working on the Netbeans plugin for OOo
make it support LO... as they are Oracle employees.

Just for your information, I'm still working on the Eclipse plugin and
made it move to LibreOffice... At least my dev version of ooeclipse
works fine with dev versions of LibreOffice.

If you want to help me test it, I'ld be glad to provide some build of
the master branch.

Regards,

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http://documentfoundation.org
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Re: [Libreoffice] RC1 Help

2010-12-06 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Rainer,

On 2010-12-05 at 14:27 +0100, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

 can someone please urgently check
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32108 ?

Sorry for being late with this, but just today I am moving the test
installation of help.libreoffice.org to the real one.

Regards,
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Re: [Libreoffice] binfilter and features...

2010-12-06 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 21:23 +0100, Pierre-André Jacquod wrote:
 I was thinking of taking a 2 steps approach: first silent warning in a
 conservative way (this is also less risk to introduce bugs) and then to
 down-size the module just keeping the needed part.

That works for me.

 In my opinion, the needed part would be, for the next releases, just the
 read capability of (older?) binary format build in within LibO.

If we didn't currently have the capability to write them I definitely
wouldn't be in favour of adding it. But seeing as we already have the
capability of writing them, I wonder if we should retain it, on the
other hand, maybe this is the best route to take :-), drop support for
writing new ones and help prod the format into extinction.

 Is there a technical steering committee for this kind of decision, where we 
 could propose / give reasons for thinking this or that? 

There is alright, a phonecon typically once a week or so. maybe we can
put this topic on the agenda and you could dial in if its at a suitable
time.

C.

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Re: [Libreoffice] [PUSHED] Re: occured occurred

2010-12-06 Thread Takeshi Abe
Hi Caolán,

On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 09:18:48 +, Caolán McNamara caol...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 19:09 +, Caolán McNamara wrote:
 On Sat, 2010-12-04 at 14:35 +0900, Takeshi Abe wrote:
 
 I'm reading through these at the moment and applying them.
 
 So far so good, will have to skip the ones that change the external API
 in offapi however I think. Hmm.
 
 Right, so pushed these now. Thanks for this.
Cool, I greatly appreciate your trouble!

 
 I did leave out however the changes to the misspelled apis in offapi in
 the basis that its changes the public API/ABI that e.g. extensions might
 be using etc. Which is a nuisance.
Agreed.

 
 I'm not adverse to changing that API, but its something we should plan
 for and bundle a whole set of changes together for.
One possible way to gracefully diverge the APIs is providing new API/ABI
with old obsolete ones in the meanwhile, that allow users to spell both
variants as they like.

Cheers,
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Re: [Libreoffice] RC1 Help

2010-12-06 Thread Michael Meeks

On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 10:23 +0100, Jan Holesovsky wrote:
  can someone please urgently check
  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32108 ?
 
 Sorry for being late with this, but just today I am moving the test
 installation of help.libreoffice.org to the real one.

My fault for hassling everyone except Kendy wrt. RC1 :-)

Regards,

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Re: [Libreoffice] Patch for i115495: import problem with centered rtl tables from word

2010-12-06 Thread Noel Power
On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 23:28 +0200, Lior Kaplan wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Can any one look at the small patch attached to
 http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=115495
 
 It would be nice to have this fixed in LibO 3.3, as this annoys a lot
 of users of the the RTL languages.
 
 Thanks
 
 Kaplan

Looks like this is already in master

Noel


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Re: [Libreoffice] [PATCH] Basic Currency Issues #i31001# to #i107277#

2010-12-06 Thread Noel Power
Hi John,
On Tue, 2010-11-30 at 04:22 -0700, Noel Power wrote:
  Main patch makes 1/2 kLOC reduction in sbx.
 yeah, so you will have to give me some time to look at this ( not really
 familar with the Currently type ) and I need to somehow filter out the
 whitespace changes too ( probably I can regenerated the patch to do
 that. 

Nearly done with this, just need to write down some stuff in a mail etc.
I do think we need this patch but imo it deserves a feature branch as 
  a) there are some things I would like initially conditionally compile
out ) 
  b) I also made some changes [1] so I think it makes sense for me to
create the feature branch ( I will do that today )
  c) there are some issues to do with stream handling that need
addressing and at least further testing ( in fact I am not even sure
that some of this stuff is needed anymore... but that is another story )

So, again thanks for this patch I do think it is useful and improves
some very sadly broken functionality. Anyway I will have more detailed
comments for you later, be a little more patient with me :-)

thanks,

Noel
[1] - one change I made was in ImpCurrencyToString where I wanted to use
existing code to build the string ( hehe I just noticed that I
completely broke handling of negative numbers )
Also, it's entirely possible that I even added more bugs ( my head
started to hurt with this patch.. very niggledy ) but your test document
results at least are the same after my changes ( your good test document
did catch some horrific error that I made too :-) )

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[Libreoffice] [Pushed] Remove __FAR_DATA [PATCH]

2010-12-06 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Michael,

On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 16:53 -0700, calla...@xmission.com wrote:
 Here are patches to the various git repositories to remove the empty  
 __FAR_DATA macro from solar.h.

Thanks ! lovely stuff :-) Its amusing to see the construct used even in
quite new code; RIP segmented memory ...

  Changes are under LGPLv3+ / MPL as requested (Although I'm not sure
 you technically need a license for code removal?)

An abundance of caution.

Michael

As Norbert says, it's nice to have two names; the great Gazzogle
suggests 'Michael Callahan', and I've pushed it under that name.

Good work,

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Re: [Libreoffice] [PUSHED] [PATCH] Clean code at impress

2010-12-06 Thread Noel Power
Hi Kayo
On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 14:37 -0800, Kayo Hamid wrote:
 Sending for review, cover sd/slideshow/*
 
 revol_
 
Pushed, I didn't commit the changes to
slideshow/source/engine/sp_debug.cxx as I find those comment telling
what #ifdef the #endif closes very useful. Thanks muchly for the nice
patch!!

Noel

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Re: [Libreoffice] [PUSHED] Re: occured occurred

2010-12-06 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 10:06 +, Wols Lists wrote:
 On 06/12/10 09:53, Takeshi Abe wrote:
  I'm not adverse to changing that API, but its something we should plan
   for and bundle a whole set of changes together for.
  One possible way to gracefully diverge the APIs is providing new API/ABI
  with old obsolete ones in the meanwhile, that allow users to spell both
  variants as they like.

The catch there, and it happened before with the spelling/grammar API
and voikko, is that adding a new method e.g. a correctly spelled one,
means that e.g. an old implementation in C++ is now incomplete and if
someone calls the new correctly spelled name, then there isn't a virtual
method in the old implementation with that name which will cause it to
crash. In theory its not the internal implementation which are the most
problematic, the possibility exists of external implementation. Which is
why we have various horrific things like XFilePicker2  which adds
methods that didn't exist in XFilePicker.

 Rename the functions, and provide a #define in the .h? (Or doesn't that
 work well with C++?)

The additional catch with this is that changes in offapi affect all
language bindings, e.g. java, pyuno, basic as well as C++. So sticking
in a #define doesn't handle the general case.

C.

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Re: [Libreoffice] bad value (atom) for -mtune= switch on boostrap build

2010-12-06 Thread Michael Meeks

On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 08:06 +0900, Takeshi Abe wrote:
  apparently  -mtune=atom require gcc 4.5. I think that commit need to
 Thanks for that information. I became eager for gcc 4.5 :)

Lol :-) the background here is (AFAIR) that in the Atom - in order to
get the die area down to some tiny 5x5mm square - and the power right
down, Intel binned some huge chunk of logic to do all but the most
simple instruction re-ordering and dropped speculative execution and
register renaming.

As such, the same code compiled in a slightly different order can be
substantially faster on Atom than the same instructions in a different
order on the same Atom :-)

Of course, for those of us with non-Atom CPUs, the change is (most
likely) negligable: we already had all those shuffling transistors
sitting around anyway.

OTOH, gcc 4.5 is no doubt better in lots of other ways ;-)

HTH,

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[Libreoffice] Fw: occured occurred

2010-12-06 Thread Takeshi Abe
Sorry again, but could you apply the below to bootstrap?

Cheers,
-- Takeshi Abe
---BeginMessage---
Hi,

On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 14:35:29 +0900 (JST), Takeshi Abe t...@fixedpoint.jp 
wrote:
 OK, I end up getting sane so that replacing them with git  sed has done
 by the attached script. After runnging it on each git working dir and
 double checking, I made up the attached patch with some tweaks.
Sorry, I found more missing hunks exist as attached.

Cheers,
-- Takeshi Abe
From b353f54f6951f39fa966aedceffc6df063dab49b Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Takeshi Abe t...@fixedpoint.jp
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 21:23:36 +0900
Subject: [PATCH] more occured replaced

---
 solenv/bin/modules/installer/servicesfile.pm |4 ++--
 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/solenv/bin/modules/installer/servicesfile.pm b/solenv/bin/modules/installer/servicesfile.pm
index c113be6..3c54723 100644
--- a/solenv/bin/modules/installer/servicesfile.pm
+++ b/solenv/bin/modules/installer/servicesfile.pm
@@ -154,7 +154,7 @@ sub register_unocomponents
 $filestring = ;
 }
 
-if (( $local_error1_occurred ) || ( $local_error2_occured )) { $error_occured = 1; }
+if (( $local_error1_occurred ) || ( $local_error2_occurred )) { $error_occurred = 1; }
 }
 
 return $error_occurred;
@@ -462,7 +462,7 @@ sub register_all_components
 if ( $#javacomponents  -1 ) { $java_error_occurred = register_javacomponents($allvariableshashref, \...@javacomponents, $regcompfileref, $servicesfile, $regcomprdb, $javaservicesurlprefix); }
 if ( $#pythoncomponents  -1 ) { $python_error_occurred = register_pythoncomponents(\...@pythoncomponents, $regcompfileref, $servicesfile, $includepatharrayref); }
 
-if ( $uno_error_occurred || $java_error_occured || $python_error_occured ) { $registererrorflag = 1; }
+if ( $uno_error_occurred || $java_error_occurred || $python_error_occurred ) { $registererrorflag = 1; }
 
 return $registererrorflag;
 }
-- 
1.7.2.3

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Re: [Libreoffice] Java build problem identified | findhome | MacOSX location ?

2010-12-06 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 01:28 -0600, Norbert Thiebaud wrote:
 Cloph, Wol and me have been working on it on IRC, resulting in
 bootstrap:474e4b60fec1f859bc16f268d6340d7850c7874e

Well, if it works it works. Still think that all the readlink stuff
before trying findhome.java is fairly dubious and that trying findhome
first and then falling back to scraping the possible JAVA_HOME out of
the paths and readlink should be the fallback position. But I don't have
access to all platforms to take on that fight.

C.

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Re: [Libreoffice] Java build problem identified | findhome | MacOSX location ?

2010-12-06 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Norbert, *,

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Thorsten Behrens
 t...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
 Caolan McNamara wrote:
 IIRC I tried this before, and there was some cockup under MacOSX, so if
 someone on MacOSX could see what findhome says and if its correct/wrong
 vs what works correctly there, that'd be helpful.

 About 4k miles away from my MacBook currently - Norbert, Cloph,
 any chance to give this a try?

 Cloph, Wol and me have been working on it on IRC, resulting in
 bootstrap:474e4b60fec1f859bc16f268d6340d7850c7874e

Hmm - but the result of the IRC-discussion was to use (for Mac)
/usr/libexec/java_home where available (10.5 and newer), and the
hardcoded fallbackpath of either
/System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/CurrentJDK/Home
or /Library/Java/Home (which in the end points to the
/System/Library. one.

http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#qa/qa2001/qa1170.html
wasn't it?

I quit IRC early, so have to read some of the backlog, but my
impression was that this was the way to go..

ciao
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Re: [Libreoffice] Java build problem identified | findhome | MacOSX location ?

2010-12-06 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 6:53 AM, Christian Lohmaier
lohma...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi Norbert, *,

 On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Thorsten Behrens
 t...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
 Caolan McNamara wrote:
 IIRC I tried this before, and there was some cockup under MacOSX, so if
 someone on MacOSX could see what findhome says and if its correct/wrong
 vs what works correctly there, that'd be helpful.

 About 4k miles away from my MacBook currently - Norbert, Cloph,
 any chance to give this a try?

 Cloph, Wol and me have been working on it on IRC, resulting in
 bootstrap:474e4b60fec1f859bc16f268d6340d7850c7874e

 Hmm - but the result of the IRC-discussion was to use (for Mac)
 /usr/libexec/java_home where available (10.5 and newer), and the
 hardcoded fallbackpath of either
 /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/CurrentJDK/Home
 or /Library/Java/Home (which in the end points to the
 /System/Library. one.

 http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#qa/qa2001/qa1170.html
 wasn't it?


Yes indeed.

Which is not what the result is. since the readlink cruf is still
attempted before that... I'll have a pass at it to re-order these.

Norbert

 I quit IRC early, so have to read some of the backlog, but my
 impression was that this was the way to go..

 ciao
 Christian

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Re: [Libreoffice] Java build problem identified | findhome | MacOSX location ?

2010-12-06 Thread Wols Lists
On 06/12/10 12:57, Norbert Thiebaud wrote:
 Hmm - but the result of the IRC-discussion was to use (for Mac)
  /usr/libexec/java_home where available (10.5 and newer), and the
  hardcoded fallbackpath of either
  /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/CurrentJDK/Home
  or /Library/Java/Home (which in the end points to the
  /System/Library. one.
 
  http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#qa/qa2001/qa1170.html
  wasn't it?
 
 Yes indeed.

 Which is not what the result is. since the readlink cruf is still
 attempted before that... I'll have a pass at it to re-order these.

 Norbert

Sorry - that's my fault, but I was a bit out of my depth and it was late.

The problem as I saw it was making sure Mac still went through the old
path first, because findhome is successful but returns a dud path.

And it was the trap the comments said was for mac that was the trap that
made gentoo bomb.

Cheers,
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Re: [Libreoffice] Java build problem identified | findhome | MacOSX location ?

2010-12-06 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
Ok, I pushed a new version that should be doing 'The Right thing(tm)' on MacOS

It is still doing the readlink stuf on other platforms...

Norbert

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Wols Lists antli...@youngman.org.uk wrote:
 On 06/12/10 12:57, Norbert Thiebaud wrote:
 Hmm - but the result of the IRC-discussion was to use (for Mac)
  /usr/libexec/java_home where available (10.5 and newer), and the
  hardcoded fallbackpath of either
  /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/CurrentJDK/Home
  or /Library/Java/Home (which in the end points to the
  /System/Library. one.
 
  http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#qa/qa2001/qa1170.html
  wasn't it?
 
 Yes indeed.

 Which is not what the result is. since the readlink cruf is still
 attempted before that... I'll have a pass at it to re-order these.

 Norbert

 Sorry - that's my fault, but I was a bit out of my depth and it was late.

 The problem as I saw it was making sure Mac still went through the old
 path first, because findhome is successful but returns a dud path.

 And it was the trap the comments said was for mac that was the trap that
 made gentoo bomb.

 Cheers,
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Re: [Libreoffice] Java build problem identified | findhome | MacOSX location ?

2010-12-06 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi *,

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Wols Lists antli...@youngman.org.uk wrote:
 On 06/12/10 12:57, Norbert Thiebaud wrote:

 The problem as I saw it was making sure Mac still went through the old
 path first, because findhome is successful but returns a dud path.

Yes - having the Mac check first is perfectly fine, since then the
JAVA_HOME will neither be emtpy nor set to /usr, thus the findhome
based check will be skipped.

ciao
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Re: [Libreoffice] [PATCH] Use GtkStatusIcon instead of libegg

2010-12-06 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 14:08:36 +, Michael Meeks wrote:
   Thanks so much for this Christopher ! what is your next planned
 feat ? :-)

Perhaps removing the bundled libegg project and disable copying it in
our install package? :-)

Sebastian


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[Libreoffice] [Bug 31865] [Task]: LibreOffice 3.3 release blockers / stoppers

2010-12-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31865

Bug 31865 depends on bug 31770, which changed state.

Bug 31770 Summary: BrOffice brand and LibreOffice
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31770

   What|Old Value   |New Value

 Resolution|FIXED   |
 Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED

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Re: [Libreoffice] [PATCH] Use GtkStatusIcon instead of libegg

2010-12-06 Thread Christopher Backhouse

On 06/12/2010 14:08, Michael Meeks wrote:

I gave it a reasonble test, of all the combinations I could think of
[ though not session exit ], and I've pushed it.


Cool, thanks.

On 06/12/2010 14:08, Michael Meeks wrote:

I guess, since SLED10 ships with gtk+ 2.8.11 or something crazy we
should prolly dynamically detect and not enable the systray quickstarter
for that version: fine with me.


I have locally a check against the gtk version (the highest version 
needed by any feature I use (the tooltip and so on) is I think 2.18, but 
this could be done more fine grained). The option is still in the user 
interface, it just bails out of constructing the tray icon, with no 
feedback, which isn't great user experience, but probably better than 
undefined symbol errors. I  don't have any means to test with an old gtk 
to see if this actually works though.


On 06/12/2010 14:24, Sebastian Spaeth wrote:

Perhaps removing the bundled libegg project and disable copying it in
our install package? :-)


I don't really understand the build system. I grepped for and removed 
every mention of libegg I could find, and now I have a broken build...
make dev-install is still trying to copy it, and failing, This is even 
after I reran autogen and did a make clean. I must have missed an 
occurrence somewhere.


Chris
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Re: [Libreoffice] [libreoffice-design] Developers, Designers and Vice Versa?

2010-12-06 Thread Kohei Yoshida
Hi Christoph,

On Sun, 2010-12-05 at 01:22 +0100, Christoph Noack wrote:
 (Note: This mail is cross-posted to both libreoff...@... and des...@...)
 
 Hi all,
 
 just a short question - is there anybody of you (developers) on the
 Design mailing list as well?

I'm on the design list too, but I admit I don't follow the discussions
there too closely.

  I'm curious, because people (there) start
 to discuss ideas and sometimes it would be great to get instant feedback
 on the effort, technical issues, ... another point-of-view.

If it involves something in my area of expertise, then please put me in
CC to alert my attention.  If unsure who the domain expert is, putting
the developer list in CC is what I would recommend (or prod us directly
on the dev list).

Regards,

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Re: [Libreoffice] [PATCH] Use GtkStatusIcon instead of libegg

2010-12-06 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi David,

On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 15:18 +0100, David Tardon wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 02:08:36PM +, Michael Meeks wrote:
  Really ? as soon as the X server dies, we'll get all manner of XErrors
  that will kill us nastily; I don't see a feature there, but perhaps I'm
  missing it.
 
 And that dying on XIOError is something we (i.e., Caolan and me) wanted
 to avoid.

Sure - but I don't believe you'll do that here; as you destroy the
windows, you'll do a lot of X calls to free server resources that will
just fail (surely).

vcl/unx/source/app/saldata.cxx-int X11SalData::XIOErrorHdl( Display * )

does (essentially) _exit(0); which is about all you can do at that
stage if you don't want to crash.

  Because otherwise abrt (Fedora's crash catching tool)
 dutifully saves it and lets the user report it as a crash and we are
 flooded (again) by reports like
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=650170 .

Hmm, obviously not good. I couldn't see a stack trace there that I
could read. However - I don't see why the systray should be any
different to having a top-level window open, or indeed any normal gtk+
app getting getting nailed by a zapped X server. [ do you really file
10x bugs for different apps if someone does ctrl-alt-backspace to zap
the server ? ].

 I recognize this is not of general interest, though.

Nah - we should fix it; but - ... getting a good trace for it would
really help. Is it from the g_error in the gtk+ X error handler ? do we
really get a good grace period to cleanup from the session manager ?
[ and just don't cleanup the systray applet there ? ] or ...

Thanks,

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[Libreoffice] Table behaviour in Writer

2010-12-06 Thread Hillar Liiv
Hello,

I don't know is this the right place to feature request/bug:

Table should behave like chart/image when manipulating it in Writer:

   - One click to resize, move;
   - Double click to modify content.

Now there is no way to wrap table differently (like images/chart) than
default. No way to put text beside table.

Cheers,
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[Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-12-06 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi,

I am sorry - I promised the LibO online help (WikiHelp) already the last
week, but it haven't happened; it needed more work than anticipated :-(

Either way, the good news is that I am currently uploading the files,
and I'll make the site online as soon as it finishes, and I do few
trivial checks; it should be later today (ETA 5 more hours, I am
populating the database through the Mediawiki API, not directly).  So
far I am uploading only the English version.

It will be read-only until RC2, so that it is easy to report bugs
against the tooling that converts the help from the format that is used
in the source code.  After RC2, I plan to open it for your edits 
improvements :-)

Regards,
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Re: [Libreoffice] [PATCH] Use GtkStatusIcon instead of libegg

2010-12-06 Thread Christopher Backhouse

On 06/12/2010 15:47, Michael Meeks wrote:

Yes - it's a pain; hence doing it for you. I was thinking of more
exciting fun / new things :-)


Thanks.


We rather need someone clueful to tackle
the problem of the flat ODF / XML export - if you're interested ?

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Easy_Hacks#De-Java-ise_flat_XML_export


Well, I would describe myself as a good C++ programmer, and I'm sure 
Java is easy enough to read. I don't really know anything about XSLT or 
XML in general though. Still, excuses to get rid of Java are always nice.



Or are you interested in a particular area / component we can help you
get stuck into ? :-)


I'm reasonably handy with gtk, though via the python bindings which hide 
all the memory management, and a lot of the type conversion from you, so 
dunno how well I'll get on in C.
The XML export thing sounds like a good idea to at least look into. 
Otherwise, maybe some more gtk/gnome integration stuff.
Sadly all the bugs that really wind me up are most likely deep-seated 
and beyond my ability to fix (focus issues, not-quite-native-appearance, 
import bugs especially from powerpoint).


Be warned: I'm a student, doing this for fun in the evenings, so 
progress might be slow. Though I was amazed to find a (semi)useful task 
that only took about an hour to understand and do.


Chris

PS - is there a git commit notification list I can subscribe to? The git 
web interface is a royal pain to navigate.


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Re: [Libreoffice] [PATCH] Use GtkStatusIcon instead of libegg

2010-12-06 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Christopher Backhouse
cjbackho...@gmail.com wrote:
...

 Chris

 PS - is there a git commit notification list I can subscribe to? The git web
 interface is a royal pain to navigate.

http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-commits



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[Libreoffice] Commit notifications (was: Use GtkStatusIcon instead of libegg)

2010-12-06 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 16:12:50 +, Christopher Backhouse 
cjbackho...@gmail.com wrote:
 PS - is there a git commit notification list I can subscribe to? The git 
 web interface is a royal pain to navigate.

You could subscribe to the RSS feed at:
 http://cia.vc/stats/project/LibreOffice 
which should give you reasonable information about what is happening.

Alternatively, do the single repositories (19!) provide RSS feeds via
the git webinterface. E.g.
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/base/atom/?h=master
that you could sign up to.

HTH,
Sebastian


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Re: [Libreoffice] [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-12-06 Thread David Nelson
Hi Kendy, :-)

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 00:04, Jan Holesovsky ke...@suse.cz wrote:
 Hi,

 I am sorry - I promised the LibO online help (WikiHelp) already the last
 week, but it haven't happened; it needed more work than anticipated :-(

 Either way, the good news is that I am currently uploading the files,
 and I'll make the site online as soon as it finishes, and I do few
 trivial checks; it should be later today (ETA 5 more hours, I am
 populating the database through the Mediawiki API, not directly).  So
 far I am uploading only the English version.

 It will be read-only until RC2, so that it is easy to report bugs
 against the tooling that converts the help from the format that is used
 in the source code.  After RC2, I plan to open it for your edits 
 improvements :-)

That's great... I'm sure we'll all be looking forward to seeing it. ;-)

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[Libreoffice] Patch 5d02d745185dac83914fe62f608a9349fdbfd8dd review for 3.3

2010-12-06 Thread Jesús Corrius
Hi Thorsten, all,

I would like to propose the patch
5d02d745185dac83914fe62f608a9349fdbfd8dd for review to be integrated
into the final 3.3 build.

There are only a few modifications in the Catalan sdf file and they
successfully passed the gsicheck.

The modifications are important.

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[Libreoffice] [Bug 31865] [Task]: LibreOffice 3.3 release blockers / stoppers

2010-12-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31865

Rainer Bielefeld libreoff...@bielefeldundbuss.de changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Depends on||32142

--- Comment #23 from Rainer Bielefeld libreoff...@bielefeldundbuss.de 
2010-12-06 10:08:50 PST ---
Nominate Bug 32142 - Replace Beta download buttons for stable release
As reminder

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Re: [Libreoffice] Patch for i115495: import problem with centered rtl tables from word

2010-12-06 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Lior,

On 2010-12-05 at 23:28 +0200, Lior Kaplan wrote:

 Can any one look at the small patch attached to
 http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=115495
 
 It would be nice to have this fixed in LibO 3.3, as this annoys a lot
 of users of the the RTL languages.

We have this fix in LibreOffice 3.3, it is by Caolan, and merged, is it
not working for you?

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Re: [Libreoffice] Patch for i115495: import problem with centered rtl tables from word

2010-12-06 Thread Lior Kaplan
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Jan Holesovsky ke...@suse.cz wrote:

 Hi Lior,

 On 2010-12-05 at 23:28 +0200, Lior Kaplan wrote:

  Can any one look at the small patch attached to
  http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=115495
 
  It would be nice to have this fixed in LibO 3.3, as this annoys a lot
  of users of the the RTL languages.

 We have this fix in LibreOffice 3.3, it is by Caolan, and merged, is it
 not working for you?


I didn't notice we have it... opps.

Tested, as looks great (:
Also mentioned this in the oo.org issue.

Thanks,

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Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-06 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi,

On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 08:57:11PM +0300, Sophie Gautier wrote:
 Like some other members of the L10n project, I'm not very happy with
 the RC1 we provided:
 - the Windows multilanguage installer is really a pain when you are
 on a slow connexion

Is that really a argument now that most people use broadband? Should we
really care about those wo don't (and downlaod a new version every few
months?)

(Disclaimer: I don't like the multi-lang installed either, and am happy
that we don't have that on Linux)

 - once you're done with the version, you realize that you do not get
 the help files,

I don't like the splitout of the help either, but I guess this has been
approved by the SC. (I'll continue to package it). Nevertheless, shouldn't
this magically work if the URLs to the help got fixed?

 - no spellchecker is available when a inexistent grammar checker
 extension is provided, so a poor quality shown and again a new

That I don't understand.

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Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-06 Thread Wols Lists
On 06/12/10 18:49, Rene Engelhard wrote:
 Is that really a argument now that most people use broadband? Should we
 really care about those wo don't (and downlaod a new version every few
 months?)
What about those people who *C*an't use broadband?

Okay, I wouldn't call 2Mb slow, but we still have plenty of people in
Britain who either can't get broadband or are on basic old ADSL. I
regularly pick up on people in the American boondocks who moan that they
can't get broadband. etc etc.

I'm not in favour of us restricting ourselves for the sake of those
without broadband, but if we *consider* them, we are likely to end up
with a better product. You know, bloat bloat bloat ... being efficient
for the sake of efficiency really *does* have something going for it :-)

Cheers,
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Re: [Libreoffice] Patch 5d02d745185dac83914fe62f608a9349fdbfd8dd review for 3.3

2010-12-06 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Jesus,

On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 17:38 +0100, Jesús Corrius wrote:
 I would like to propose the patch
 5d02d745185dac83914fe62f608a9349fdbfd8dd for review to be integrated
 into the final 3.3 build.

...

 There are only a few modifications in the Catalan sdf file and they
 successfully passed the gsicheck.
 The modifications are important.

I suggest that we demand code review only for code :-) Please to put
them on the libreoffice-3-3 branch, and any other translations fixes
that help.

Thanks !

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Re: [Libreoffice] Table behaviour in Writer

2010-12-06 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 18:00 +0200, Hillar Liiv wrote:
 Hello,
 

 Table should behave like chart/image when manipulating it in Writer:
   * One click to resize, move;
   * Double click to modify content.

We're talking about normal tables in writer, right ?. A double click to
enter text into them sounds very odd.

 Now there is no way to wrap table differently (like images/chart) than
 default. No way to put text beside table.

There kind of is, but it is indeed tricky, where you place the table
into a frame, and then you can drag that frame around and set its
wrapping etc. Rather yucky, but possible. There then is the ugliness of
the difficultly of manually getting rid of the empty unwanted paragraph.

A relatively easy hack (I guess, haven't looked at the area in quite a
while) would be to offer a table-wrap which, when anything other than
no wrap is selected, conceptually automagically places the table into a
frame and sticky that wrapping feature into the frame and removes that
trailing paragraph. Maybe that's an awful idea :-), but sort of in the
right ballpark.

C.

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[Libreoffice] [PATCH] RTL_CONSTASCII_USTRINGPARAM for dbaccess/source/ui/dlg

2010-12-06 Thread Julien Nabet

Hello,

Here's a small patch for dbaccess/source/ui/dlg

Julien.
(LGPLv3+ / MPL)
commit 611a28b9fbafe37691865c023803a5a0b74b
Author: serval ser...@ilapharm.com
Date:   Mon Dec 6 22:36:51 2010 +0100

RTL_CONSTASCII_USTRINGPARAM for ConnectionHelper.cxx

diff --git a/dbaccess/source/ui/dlg/ConnectionHelper.cxx 
b/dbaccess/source/ui/dlg/ConnectionHelper.cxx
index a21dff0..c401d28 100644
--- a/dbaccess/source/ui/dlg/ConnectionHelper.cxx
+++ b/dbaccess/source/ui/dlg/ConnectionHelper.cxx
@@ -184,7 +184,7 @@ DBG_NAME(OConnectionHelper)
 {
 try
 {
-::rtl::OUString sFolderPickerService = 
::rtl::OUString::createFromAscii(SERVICE_UI_FOLDERPICKER);
+::rtl::OUString sFolderPickerService = 
::rtl::OUString(RTL_CONSTASCII_USTRINGPARAM(SERVICE_UI_FOLDERPICKER));
 Reference XFolderPicker  
xFolderPicker(m_xORB-createInstance(sFolderPickerService), UNO_QUERY);
 if (!xFolderPicker.is())
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Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-06 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Sophie  Wols,

On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 20:57 +0300, Sophie Gautier wrote:
 Like some other members of the L10n project, I'm not very happy with the 
 RC1 we provided:

:-)

 - the Windows multilanguage installer is really a pain when you are on a 
 slow connexion

It took under five minutes for me to download; 8Mbit, I can imagine it
taking ten times longer on a 1Mbit link, from Madagascar - perhaps you
don't have a mirrorbrain mirror topologically close to you ?

 - once you're done with the version, you realize that you do not get the 
 help files,

As Rene says, on-line help is coming, and help packs too.

 - no spellchecker is available when a inexistent grammar checker 
 extension is provided, so a poor quality shown and again a new download 
 to get.

This sounds like a real bug; can you file it in bugzilla and expand on
the problem ? Best to suggest it as a child of the release blocker too
(https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31865) I'm having problems
parsing the problem though - we bundle a grammar checker that doesn't
exist ? :-) perhaps this is why the download is so big.

 I think that we shall consider again the package we are providing and 
 its availability/quality.

Well - we are looking again at how best to re-package it. The 'obvious'
solutions are not very pleasant ones though. So - with only ten
languages (all of my Catalan, Hungarian,  friends start screaming) -
we can cover some huge proportion of our users, and then it is only the
minority languages that have either a huge download, or separate / split
language-packs.

On the other hand - now is not a wonderful time to be discovering
this :-) The outline of what was suggested wrt. multi-language installs
has been on the table for several months, and was there in Beta3; RC1 is
not an ideal time to notice these issues.

And Wols' comments:

On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 19:14 +, Wols Lists wrote:
 What about those people who *C*an't use broadband?

They have all sorts of pain, that can't be fixed. It takes them about
twice as long to download LO as it does to download OO.o (as of now).
 
 Okay, I wouldn't call 2Mb slow

2Mbit ~= 10 Mb per minute, ~= 35 minutes for 350mb - right ?

 I'm not in favour of us restricting ourselves for the sake of those
 without broadband, but if we *consider* them, we are likely to end up
 with a better product. You know, bloat bloat bloat ... being efficient
 for the sake of efficiency really *does* have something going for
 it :-)

You appear to suggest that we delight in adding bloat for its own sake.
While that most certainly may -seem- to be the case based on the result,
it is somewhat offensive to suggest it :-)

One of the benefits of the combined installer is that we do not require
many gigabytes of duplicated pointlessness on -every- mirror site: as we
duplicate all of the code again and again and again for windows, 90%+ of
which is identical, but each time with ~10Mb of translation / help :-)
That is a nightare to build, copy, sign, up-load and manage.

Of course, we want to reduce the ultimate download size; and I'm
working on analysing where the extra space came from in the latest
build: we should be sub 300Mb. And yes, there are a -load- of dumb
design decisions (eg. the template translation[1]) that makes us far too
large, but working on the underlying causes to shrink this seems a far
more worthy goal than hacking around it.

HTH,

Michael.

[1] - we have ~20Mb of nearly exactly duplicated templates in there
still that requires code fixing ... if you're interested :-)
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[Libreoffice] Including Pagination extention

2010-12-06 Thread Łukasz Madurski
Hi!

I would like to know if there is a chance of including *Pagination *extension
in final release of Libre Office? Many of my friends are asking, why there
is no simple page numbering in OO.o or Libre Office. It would be nice to
have this extension installed from the beginning. It makes it easier to
change MSO to LO. Small but very useful.

Best regards!
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Re: [Libreoffice] Patch 5d02d745185dac83914fe62f608a9349fdbfd8dd review for 3.3

2010-12-06 Thread Jesús Corrius
Hi Michael,

2010/12/6 Michael Meeks michael.me...@novell.com:
 Hi Jesus,

 On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 17:38 +0100, Jesús Corrius wrote:
 I would like to propose the patch
 5d02d745185dac83914fe62f608a9349fdbfd8dd for review to be integrated
 into the final 3.3 build.

        ...

 There are only a few modifications in the Catalan sdf file and they
 successfully passed the gsicheck.
 The modifications are important.

        I suggest that we demand code review only for code :-) Please to put
 them on the libreoffice-3-3 branch, and any other translations fixes
 that help.

Pushed.

Thanks Michael :)

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Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-06 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure
Hi,

Le 06/12/2010 23:10, Michael Meeks a écrit :
 Hi Sophie  Wols,

 On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 20:57 +0300, Sophie Gautier wrote:
 - the Windows multilanguage installer is really a pain when you are on a 
 slow connexion
   It took under five minutes for me to download; 8Mbit, I can imagine it
 taking ten times longer on a 1Mbit link, from Madagascar - perhaps you
 don't have a mirrorbrain mirror topologically close to you ?

Why not grouping all installation tasks in the language pack ?
1/ the user download the language pack he want
2/ he installs this language pack and its installer ask the user to
provide the archive of the core application or to give the permission to
download it.
3/ if the user want add another language pack to an existing
installation, the installer must be sufficiently smart to detect it and
just add the new language.

Proceding this way, we need only one file for the core application
without duplication through all localizations.

Best regards
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[Libreoffice] [Bug 31865] [Task]: LibreOffice 3.3 release blockers / stoppers

2010-12-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31865

Kohei Yoshida kyosh...@novell.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Depends on||32133

--- Comment #24 from Kohei Yoshida kyosh...@novell.com 2010-12-06 20:19:59 
PST ---
I'd like to nominate Bug 32133 - [RC1] overlapping controls on Tools - Options
- General panel.

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Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-06 Thread Chris Carpenter

On 12/06/2010 05:15 PM, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote:
 Hi,

 Le 06/12/2010 23:10, Michael Meeks a écrit :
 Hi Sophie  Wols,

 On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 20:57 +0300, Sophie Gautier wrote:
 - the Windows multilanguage installer is really a pain when you are 
on a

 slow connexion
It took under five minutes for me to download; 8Mbit, I can imagine it
 taking ten times longer on a 1Mbit link, from Madagascar - perhaps you
 don't have a mirrorbrain mirror topologically close to you ?

 Why not grouping all installation tasks in the language pack ?
 1/ the user download the language pack he want
 2/ he installs this language pack and its installer ask the user to
 provide the archive of the core application or to give the permission to
 download it.
 3/ if the user want add another language pack to an existing
 installation, the installer must be sufficiently smart to detect it and
 just add the new language.

 Proceding this way, we need only one file for the core application
 without duplication through all localizations.

 Best regards
 JBF


First off, I have a 512 kbps(yes, kilobits per a second) link, and I am 
considered lucky in my neighborhood. Really, luck has nothing to do with 
it... I had to pay $300 for install and have to pay $60 a month for it. 
Most people in my area still have dial-up with ~28-56kbps. So yes, for 
us the multi-language installer is a pain. (luckily, I use linux 
anyways, I only keep windows around for testing).


In my opinion, installation should go like this:

1. Download a generic installer with a minimal selection of languages
2. Part of the installer asks if you want to install other languages and 
pulls a list from a mirror.

3. If you want one, you choose it and it is downloaded.
4. You get to choose where to install (pet peeve of mine that that is 
not currently offered[at least in beta 3, I haven't actually installed 
rc1 on windows yet])

5. Install continues as usual

If not, then the other way it -has- to be is to offer and installer in 
every language(shouldn't this be how it should be anyways?). Yes, it 
adds a lot of extra space for the mirrors, and is probably a pain for 
the developers. However, the users count, not the developers. Some users 
have to pay per a megabyte of bandwidth used, so even if they have a 
high speed connection we should be worrying about them.


I believe the second way is best as it is completely fair (no why 
doesn't MY language get to be in the main installer?) and doesn't 
require large changes to the installer. I think it would be worth it to 
look into the first option after the release, though.


Anyways, my two cents.

Thanks,
Chris Carpenter
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[Libreoffice] Patch review requested

2010-12-06 Thread Kohei Yoshida
Please someone review my patch at

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32133

which fixes the aforementioned bug for 3.3.  The patch in comment 7 is
the one that needs reviewing.

Thanks!

Kohei

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Kohei Yoshida, LibreOffice hacker, Calc
kyosh...@novell.com

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