Re: How to add extra templates to 4.1 windows build

[Flavio Moringa]

I,

thanks for the tips, I'm trying it out right now

The templates are internal to a company business process, and as such I
cannot share them.

In the end where will this templates be available? It would be great if a
new category labeled Company Name was created with this templates
inside...

Thanks for helping out.

Cheers

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2013/8/30 Eike Rathke er...@redhat.com

 Hi Flavio,

 On Tuesday, 2013-08-27 10:19:35 +0100, Flavio Moringa wrote:

  I'm trying to add a few extra templates to a 4.1 windows build, but I
 don't
  know where to put them on the source dir so that they are caught in the
  final MSI
 
  In 3.x I used to put them in
 extras/source/premium/templates/lang/en-US/
  but that dir does not exist anymore

 extras/source/templates/dirname/ looks like the place to go (of course
 another new path under extras/source/... would do as well) and then
 create an extras/Package_dirname.mk file similar to
 extras/Package_tpllayoutimpr.mk and add that to extras/Module_extras.mk
 and also add an entry to scp2/source/ooo/file_extra_ooo.scp (look for
 gid_File_Extra_Tpllayoutimpr) and scp2/source/ooo/module_hidden_ooo.scp
 (dito, look for gid_File_Extra_Tpllayoutimpr)

 Or simply publish the templates on http://templates.libreoffice.org/

 Or if they could be of general interest as default templates, contribute
 them to the project?

   Eike

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Re: How to add extra templates to 4.1 windows build

[Flavio Moringa]

I guys,

any help from someone? I just need to know were to put my templates to
create a costumized build with those templates included...

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2013/8/27 Flavio Moringa flavio.mori...@caixamagica.pt

 I guys,

 I'm trying to add a few extra templates to a 4.1 windows build, but I
 don't know where to put them on the source dir so that they are caught in
 the final MSI

 In 3.x I used to put them in extras/source/premium/templates/lang/en-US/
 but that dir does not exist anymore

 Any help?

 Thanks


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How to add extra templates to 4.1 windows build

[Flavio Moringa]

I guys,

I'm trying to add a few extra templates to a 4.1 windows build, but I don't
know where to put them on the source dir so that they are caught in the
final MSI

In 3.x I used to put them in extras/source/premium/templates/lang/en-US/
but that dir does not exist anymore

Any help?

Thanks


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URGENT: Build fails when --with-help is enabled

[Flavio Moringa]

I guys,

I've already made a windows build using this options:

./autogen.sh \
--enable-release-build \
--enable-extra-gallery \
--enable-extra-sample \
--enable-extra-font \
--enable-extra-template \
--verbose \
--enable-verbose \
--disable-activex \
--without-junit \
--with-ant-home=/cygdrive/c/apache-ant-1.9.2/


But now I need to add:

--with-help
--with-myspell-dicts

autogen goes ok... but when I do a:
/opt/lo/bin/make

I get the following error:

$ /opt/lo/bin/make
C:/libreoffice-4.1.0.4/bin/unpack-sources C:/libreoffice-4.1.0.4
C:/libreoffice-4.1.0.4/src/libreoffice-dictionaries-4.1.0.4.tar.xz
C:/libreoffice-4.1.0.4/src/libreoffice-help-4.1.0.4.tar.xz
Error: C:/libreoffice-4.1.0.4 is not a valid LibreOffice core source directory
make: *** [get-submodules] Error 1

So what's wrong? Why does it say it's not a core source directory? I
don't seem to find anything wrong in bin/unpack-sources


I really need some help here... does anyone have any clues?

Thanks


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Re: Build fails when --with-help is enabled

[Flavio Moringa]

I,

thanks for helping.

Yes you are right, I'm building from the source tarball...

I will then unpack the dictionaries and help sourecs to the build root...

Will tell if it worked... I was also looking at this thread:
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lfs.beyond.support/47479

That seems to shed some light on the problem... Also using C:/ paths
instead of /cygdrive/c in the script upack-sources when using cygwin it's
problematic...

Cheers


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2013/8/27 Miklos Vajna vmik...@suse.cz

 On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 11:35:57AM +0100, Flavio Moringa 
 flavio.mori...@caixamagica.pt wrote:
  I get the following error:
 
  $ /opt/lo/bin/make
  C:/libreoffice-4.1.0.4/bin/unpack-sources C:/libreoffice-4.1.0.4
  C:/libreoffice-4.1.0.4/src/libreoffice-dictionaries-4.1.0.4.tar.xz
  C:/libreoffice-4.1.0.4/src/libreoffice-help-4.1.0.4.tar.xz
  Error: C:/libreoffice-4.1.0.4 is not a valid LibreOffice core source
 directory
  make: *** [get-submodules] Error 1

 Seems you're not building from git. If you build from a tarball, just
 get the help tarball as well, and unpack it just like you unpacked the
 core tarball as well, before you start autogen/make.

 With that, the get-submodules target should notice that everything is
 already unpacked and won't even call bin/unpack-sources.

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Lpsolve errors trying to build LibreOffice 4.1 on Windows XP with VS Express 2010

[Flavio Moringa]

I guys,

I'm trying to do a custom Windows build of LibreOffice 4.1.0.4 (The stable
release).

First I had an lpsolve error that seemed to be caused by this:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66826

And so I applied this patch:
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=f1e7eeb83c18bce720d49e0e55704abd09ab96f7h=libreoffice-4-1

But now the lp_solve_5.5-windows.patch patch actually fails:
[build PAT] lpsolve
S=C:/libreoffice-4.1.0.4  O=$S/solver/wntmsci13.pro  W=$S/workdir/
wntmsci13.pro   ( cd $W/UnpackedTarball/lpsolve  for p in
$S/lpsolve/lp_solve_5.5-windows.patch; do pl=3; s=${p##*.}; case $s in
[0-9]) pl=$s; ;; esac ; /usr/bin/patch --binary -f -s -p$pl  $p; if
test $? -ne 0; then echo Patch FAILED: $p; exit 1; fi; done 
touch $W/UnpackedTarball/lpsolve.done ) || ( touch
$W/UnpackedTarball/lpsolve.prepare  exit 1 )
1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file lpsolve55/cgcc.bat.rej
1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file lpsolve55/lpsolve.rc.rej
1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file lpsolve55/cvc6.bat.rej
Patch FAILED: C:/libreoffice-4.1.0.4/lpsolve/lp_solve_5.5-windows.patch
make[1]: *** [C:/libreoffice-4.1.0.4/workdir/
wntmsci13.pro/UnpackedTarball/lpsolve.done] Error 1


cgcc.bat.rej shows this, and I'm totally clueless:

$ cat  ./workdir/
wntmsci13.pro/UnpackedTarball/lpsolve/lpsolve55/cgcc.bat.rej
*** cgcc.batSun Jun 12 04:27:28 2005
--- lpsolve55/cgcc.bat  Sun Dec 14 07:55:19 2008
***
*** 7,14 

  set c=gcc

! rem rc lpsolve.rc
! %c% -DINLINE=static -I.. -I../shared -I../bfp -I../bfp/bfp_LUSOL
-I../bfp/bfp_LUSOL/LUSOL -I../colamd -s -O3 -shared -mno-cygwin
-enable-stdcall-fixup -D_USRDLL -DWIN32 -DYY_NEVER_INTERACTIVE -DPARSER_LP
-DINVERSE_ACTIVE=INVERSE_LUSOL -DRoleIsExternalInvEngine %src%
..\lp_solve.def -o lpsolve55.dll

  %c% -DINLINE=static -I.. -I../shared -I../bfp -I../bfp/bfp_LUSOL
-I../bfp/bfp_LUSOL/LUSOL -I../colamd -s -O3 -shared -D_USRDLL -DWIN32
-DYY_NEVER_INTERACTIVE -DPARSER_LP -DINVERSE_ACTIVE=INVERSE_LUSOL
-DRoleIsExternalInvEngine %src% -o liblpsolve55.so

--- 7,14 

  set c=gcc

! windres lpsolve.rc lpsolve_res.obj
! %c% -DINLINE=static -I.. -I../shared -I../bfp -I../bfp/bfp_LUSOL
-I../bfp/bfp_LUSOL/LUSOL -I../colamd -s -O3 -shared -mno-cygwin
-enable-stdcall-fixup -mthreads %lpsolve_LDFLAGS% -D_USRDLL -DWIN32
-DYY_NEVER_INTERACTIVE -DPARSER_LP -DINVERSE_ACTIVE=INVERSE_LUSOL
-DRoleIsExternalInvEngine %src% lpsolve_res.obj ..\lp_solve.def
%lpsolve_LIBS% -o lpsolve55.dll

  %c% -DINLINE=static -I.. -I../shared -I../bfp -I../bfp/bfp_LUSOL
-I../bfp/bfp_LUSOL/LUSOL -I../colamd -s -O3 -shared -D_USRDLL -DWIN32
-DYY_NEVER_INTERACTIVE -DPARSER_LP -DINVERSE_ACTIVE=INVERSE_LUSOL
-DRoleIsExternalInvEngine %src% -o liblpsolve55.so


I'm using VS 2010 Express... Any thoughts?

Thanks for helping out.

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Re: Lpsolve errors trying to build LibreOffice 4.1 on Windows XP with VS Express 2010

[Flavio Moringa]

Replacing the patch with the one I'm attaching seems to fix it... But not
sure of the consequences...

Hope it helps someone...

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2013/8/8 Flavio Moringa flavio.mori...@caixamagica.pt

 I guys,

 I'm trying to do a custom Windows build of LibreOffice 4.1.0.4 (The stable
 release).

 First I had an lpsolve error that seemed to be caused by this:
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66826

 And so I applied this patch:

 http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=f1e7eeb83c18bce720d49e0e55704abd09ab96f7h=libreoffice-4-1

 But now the lp_solve_5.5-windows.patch patch actually fails:
 [build PAT] lpsolve
 S=C:/libreoffice-4.1.0.4  O=$S/solver/wntmsci13.pro  W=$S/workdir/
 wntmsci13.pro   ( cd $W/UnpackedTarball/lpsolve  for p in
 $S/lpsolve/lp_solve_5.5-windows.patch; do pl=3; s=${p##*.}; case $s in
 [0-9]) pl=$s; ;; esac ; /usr/bin/patch --binary -f -s -p$pl  $p; if
 test $? -ne 0; then echo Patch FAILED: $p; exit 1; fi; done 
 touch $W/UnpackedTarball/lpsolve.done ) || ( touch
 $W/UnpackedTarball/lpsolve.prepare  exit 1 )
 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file lpsolve55/cgcc.bat.rej
 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file lpsolve55/lpsolve.rc.rej
 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file lpsolve55/cvc6.bat.rej
 Patch FAILED: C:/libreoffice-4.1.0.4/lpsolve/lp_solve_5.5-windows.patch
 make[1]: *** [C:/libreoffice-4.1.0.4/workdir/
 wntmsci13.pro/UnpackedTarball/lpsolve.done] Error 1


 cgcc.bat.rej shows this, and I'm totally clueless:

 $ cat  ./workdir/
 wntmsci13.pro/UnpackedTarball/lpsolve/lpsolve55/cgcc.bat.rej
 *** cgcc.batSun Jun 12 04:27:28 2005
 --- lpsolve55/cgcc.bat  Sun Dec 14 07:55:19 2008
 ***
 *** 7,14 

   set c=gcc

 ! rem rc lpsolve.rc
 ! %c% -DINLINE=static -I.. -I../shared -I../bfp -I../bfp/bfp_LUSOL
 -I../bfp/bfp_LUSOL/LUSOL -I../colamd -s -O3 -shared -mno-cygwin
 -enable-stdcall-fixup -D_USRDLL -DWIN32 -DYY_NEVER_INTERACTIVE -DPARSER_LP
 -DINVERSE_ACTIVE=INVERSE_LUSOL -DRoleIsExternalInvEngine %src%
 ..\lp_solve.def -o lpsolve55.dll

   %c% -DINLINE=static -I.. -I../shared -I../bfp -I../bfp/bfp_LUSOL
 -I../bfp/bfp_LUSOL/LUSOL -I../colamd -s -O3 -shared -D_USRDLL -DWIN32
 -DYY_NEVER_INTERACTIVE -DPARSER_LP -DINVERSE_ACTIVE=INVERSE_LUSOL
 -DRoleIsExternalInvEngine %src% -o liblpsolve55.so

 --- 7,14 

   set c=gcc

 ! windres lpsolve.rc lpsolve_res.obj
 ! %c% -DINLINE=static -I.. -I../shared -I../bfp -I../bfp/bfp_LUSOL
 -I../bfp/bfp_LUSOL/LUSOL -I../colamd -s -O3 -shared -mno-cygwin
 -enable-stdcall-fixup -mthreads %lpsolve_LDFLAGS% -D_USRDLL -DWIN32
 -DYY_NEVER_INTERACTIVE -DPARSER_LP -DINVERSE_ACTIVE=INVERSE_LUSOL
 -DRoleIsExternalInvEngine %src% lpsolve_res.obj ..\lp_solve.def
 %lpsolve_LIBS% -o lpsolve55.dll

   %c% -DINLINE=static -I.. -I../shared -I../bfp -I../bfp/bfp_LUSOL
 -I../bfp/bfp_LUSOL/LUSOL -I../colamd -s -O3 -shared -D_USRDLL -DWIN32
 -DYY_NEVER_INTERACTIVE -DPARSER_LP -DINVERSE_ACTIVE=INVERSE_LUSOL
 -DRoleIsExternalInvEngine %src% -o liblpsolve55.so


 I'm using VS 2010 Express... Any thoughts?

 Thanks for helping out.

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Re: Windows build failing in instsetoo_native, makecab.exe

[Flavio Moringa]

Maybe it's a problem due to you trying to compile a Dev version.. maybe
passing:

--enable-release-built

to autogen fixes it...

Just my 2 cents...

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2012/10/25 Jeremy Brown jeremy.r.br...@gmail.com

 I've gotten a little farther in my quest to get LibreOffice to build on
 my Windows box, but now I'm running into this error in
 instsetoo_native:

 ...

 Expanding Files 

 Expanding Files Complete ...
 13 files total.
 ... copying files into installation set ...
 ... creating ddf files ...
 ... creating log file log_OOO370_en-US.log
 ... packaging installation set ...
 ... makecab.exe (1/1) ...
 makecab_error (Try 1): Trying again
 makecab_error: Could not open file:
 LibreOffice_Dev\native\zip\en-US\00\basicsrvdepot_zip\CommonLang.xba
 makecab_error: MakeCAB aborted.
 makecab_error (Try 2): Trying again
 makecab_error: Could not open file:
 LibreOffice_Dev\native\zip\en-US\00\basicsrvdepot_zip\CommonLang.xba
 makecab_error: MakeCAB aborted.
 ERROR: Failure in installer.pm
 ERROR: ERROR: makecab.exe /V3 /F
 D:/Dev/libo/libo/instsetoo_native/
 wntmsci12.pro/LibreOffice_Dev/native/ddf/en-US/lodev1.ddf
 21 |
 ! at D:/Dev/libo/libo/solenv/bin/modules/installer/windows/msiglobal.pm
 line 1283

 ERROR (Try 3): Abort packing
 ERROR: Could not open file:
 LibreOffice_Dev\native\zip\en-US\00\basicsrvdepot_zip\CommonLang.xba
 ERROR: MakeCAB aborted.
 ... cleaning the output tree ...
 ... removing directory /tmp/ooopackaging/i_82041351108958 ...
 ERROR, saved logfile
 D:/Dev/libo/libo/instsetoo_native/
 wntmsci12.pro/LibreOffice_Dev/native/logging/en-US/log_OOO370_en-US.log
 is:


 ...

 ##
 : Packaging process
 : ##
 : Performance Info: Execute packaging start Wed Oct 24 21:02:58 2012
 (00:20 min.)
 : chdir: D:/Dev/libo/libo/instsetoo_native/
 wntmsci12.pro/LibreOffice_Dev/native/logging/en-US/
 : chdir: /tmp/ooopackaging/i_82041351108958/wntmsci12.pro
 : Systemcall: makecab.exe /V3 /F
 D:/Dev/libo/libo/instsetoo_native/
 wntmsci12.pro/LibreOffice_Dev/native/ddf/en-US/lodev1.ddf
 21 |
 : makecab_error (Try 1): makecab.exe /V3 /F
 D:/Dev/libo/libo/instsetoo_native/
 wntmsci12.pro/LibreOffice_Dev/native/ddf/en-US/lodev1.ddf
 21 |
 :  !makecab_error: Could not open file:
 LibreOffice_Dev\native\zip\en-US\00\basicsrvdepot_zip\CommonLang.xba
 : makecab_error: MakeCAB aborted.
 : Systemcall: makecab.exe /V3 /F
 D:/Dev/libo/libo/instsetoo_native/
 wntmsci12.pro/LibreOffice_Dev/native/ddf/en-US/lodev1.ddf
 21 |
 : makecab_error (Try 2): makecab.exe /V3 /F
 D:/Dev/libo/libo/instsetoo_native/
 wntmsci12.pro/LibreOffice_Dev/native/ddf/en-US/lodev1.ddf
 21 |
 :  !makecab_error: Could not open file:
 LibreOffice_Dev\native\zip\en-US\00\basicsrvdepot_zip\CommonLang.xba
 : makecab_error: MakeCAB aborted.
 : Systemcall: makecab.exe /V3 /F
 D:/Dev/libo/libo/instsetoo_native/
 wntmsci12.pro/LibreOffice_Dev/native/ddf/en-US/lodev1.ddf
 21 |
 : ERROR (Try 3): makecab.exe /V3 /F
 D:/Dev/libo/libo/instsetoo_native/
 wntmsci12.pro/LibreOffice_Dev/native/ddf/en-US/lodev1.ddf
 21 |
 :  !ERROR: Could not open file:
 LibreOffice_Dev\native\zip\en-US\00\basicsrvdepot_zip\CommonLang.xba
 : ERROR: MakeCAB aborted.
 :
 : Moved directory from
 D:/Dev/libo/libo/instsetoo_native/
 wntmsci12.pro/LibreOffice_Dev/native/install/en-US_inprogress
 to D:/Dev/libo/libo/instsetoo_native/
 wntmsci12.pro/LibreOffice_Dev/native/install/en-US_witherror
 :
 : Removing directory /tmp/ooopackaging/i_82041351108958

 ...

 : ##
 : Replacing variables in setup script (start)
 : ##
 : WARNING: mis-named or un-known '%' variable in setup script at line
 123617:
 :   Subkey =
 Software\%MANUFACTURER\LOdev%PRODUCTADDON\3.7\Capabilities;
 : WARNING: mis-named or un-known '%' variable in setup script at line
 123735:
 :   Subkey =
 Software\%MANUFACTURER\LOdev%PRODUCTADDON\3.7\Capabilities;

 ...

 : Setting Root Module: gid_Module_Root
 : Using spellchecker file:
 D:/Dev/libo/libo/solver/wntmsci12.pro/bin/spellchecker_selection.txt
 : Collected spellchecker languages for spellchecker: en,es,fr
 :
 : *
 : ERROR: ERROR: makecab.exe /V3 /F
 D:/Dev/libo/libo/instsetoo_native/
 wntmsci12.pro/LibreOffice_Dev/native/ddf/en-US/lodev1.ddf
 21 |
 : ! at D:/Dev/libo/libo/solenv/bin/modules/installer/windows/msiglobal.pm
 line 1283
 : 

Re: Errors with Makefile.top for building Windows

[Flavio Moringa]

Glad I could help.

Your solution was going to be my next proposal for you to try :-)

Cheers
Flávio
Em 20/10/2012 15:12, julien2412 serval2...@yahoo.fr escreveu:

 Found the problem with make.
 In fact, I retrieved the specific make in /opt/lo/bin but which make
 indicates /usr/bin/make.
 So I backup then replace /usr/bin/make by /opt/lo/bin/make

 Thank you Matúš and Flavio for your help about this, it was almost ok, just
 a path problem finally.
 Hope one day LO build will be as easy on Windows than on Linux :-) (never
 tested on Mac)

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Re: Errors with Makefile.top for building Windows

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I,

you have to use another make for libreoffice.

Check this:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Foral/Build_Win#Cygwin

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2012/10/18 julien2412 serval2...@yahoo.fr

 Hello,

 On Vista SP2 (32 bits) and with Cygwin 1.7 installed some days ago, I've
 got
 these errors:
 /cygdrive/d/compile-libreoffice/libo/Makefile.top:325: target `D' doesn't
 match the target pattern
 /cygdrive/d/compile-libreoffice/libo/Makefile.top:329: target `D' doesn't
 match the target pattern
 /cygdrive/d/compile-libreoffice/libo/Makefile.top:330: warning: overriding
 recipe for target `D'
 /cygdrive/d/compile-libreoffice/libo/Makefile.top:326: warning: ignoring
 old
 recipe for target `D'
 /cygdrive/d/compile-libreoffice/libo/Makefile.top:396: *** target pattern
 contains no '%'. Stop.
 make[1]: Leaving directory `cygdrive/d/compile-libreoffice/libo'

 I found some old links (2006 until 2008) indicated to downgrade Make from
 3.81 to 3.80

 I use make 3.82.90  (Build for i686-pc-cygwin) from dev-tools repo

 Any idea?

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Error on rebuild in Windows cp: missing destination file operand after

[Flavio Moringa]

I guys,

I've done a successful build on windows just to test... It went fine (after
a hard fight ;-))

Now I've changed some things on the autogen (for instance change languages
from en-US pt to just en-US) and re-run it and also changed the product
name on *instsetoo_native/util/openoffice.lst* and now everytime it gets
to the tail_buil if fails doing the extensions in the OXT... it fails in
every extension with this:

[ build OXT ] report-builder
S=C:/libre362  O=$S/solver/wntmsci12.pro 
W=$S/workdir/wntmsci12.pro  mkdir -p
$W/Extension/report-builder/root/META-INF
$W/Extension/report-builder/root/registration   cp -f
$W/Extension/report-builder/description.xml
$W/Extension/report-builder/root/description.xml   cp -f
$S/reportbuilder/util/manifest.xml
$W/Extension/report-builder/root/META-INF/manifest.xml  cp -f
$O/bin/osl/license.txt $W/Extension/report-builder/root/registration  cp
$W/Extension/report-builder/root  cd $W/Extension/report-builder/root 
zip  -rX --filesync $W/Extension/report-builder.oxt META-INF
THIRDPARTYREADMELICENSE.html commons-logging-1.1.1.jar components.rdb
description-en-US.txt description.xml flow-engine-0.9.4.jar flute-1.1.6.jar
images/extension_32.png libbase-1.1.6.jar libfonts-1.1.6.jar
libformula-1.1.7.jar liblayout-0.2.10.jar libloader-1.1.6.jar
librepository-1.1.6.jar libserializer-1.1.6.jar libxml-1.1.7.jar
readme_en-US.html readme_en-US.txt registration
registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/Accelerators.xcu
registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/DataAccess.xcu
registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/Embedding.xcu
registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/ExtendedColorScheme.xcu
registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/Paths.xcu
registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/ReportDesign.xcu
registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/UI/Controller.xcu
registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/UI/DbReportWindowState.xcu
registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/UI/ReportCommands.xcu
registry/data/org/openoffice/Setup.xcu
registry/data/org/openoffice/TypeDetection/Filter.xcu
registry/data/org/openoffice/TypeDetection/Types.xcu
registry/schema/org/openoffice/Office/ReportDesign.xcs
registry/schema/org/openoffice/Office/UI/DbReportWindowState.xcs
registry/schema/org/openoffice/Office/UI/ReportCommands.xcs
reportbuilderwizard.jar sac.jar sun-report-builder.jar
template/en-US/wizard/report/default.otr
cp: missing destination file operand after `C:/libre362/workdir/
wntmsci12.pro/Extension/report-builder/root'
Try `cp --help' for more information.
make[2]: *** [C:/libre362/workdir/wntmsci12.pro/Extension/report-builder.oxt]
Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/cygdrive/c/libre362/tail_build'

Basically it seems that in the command:
cp  $W/Extension/report-builder/root
 it's missing the first operand

Can someone help me finding what's worng.. is there some environment
variable that went missing? Where dows this cp command line commes from
so that I can try to see what should be there (I didn't found it)?

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Re: Trying to build on Windows, multiple target patterns

[Flavio Moringa]

I,

I've done a sucessful build using this steps:

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Foral/Build_Win

Also had to apply this patch:
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=6cfe3c93dc55264e57f1057a2911d54232353d13

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2012/10/15 Jeremy Brown jeremy.r.br...@gmail.com

 I'm trying to build LibreOffice on Windows. I tried about a year ago
 but gave up because I couldn't figure it out. In the meantime, I set
 up a VirtualBox Kubuntu install and was able to build LibreOffice
 there. No big deal, but it's the first time I've ever really make'd
 something on Linux with LibreOffice's level of complexity.

 Anyways, I'm back to trying to build on Windows because I realized
 that the thing I'm interested in trying to 'fix' works just fine on
 Linux, and the difficulty is Windows-specific, so I really need a
 Windows build to test if what I'm doing works or not.

 OK, so I've been trying to build LibreOffice on Windows from master
 following the directions in the wiki, but I'm having a lot of trouble.
 I've tried being as careful as I can getting it all configured right,
 but maybe I missed something.

 So here are 4 sort of related questions...


 #1
 My current problem is that I run make and it runs for a while and then
 dies in tail_build with an error like this:
 D:/Dev/libo/libo/workdir/
 wntmsci12.pro/Dep/LinkTarget/Library/iacc.lib.d:948:
 *** multiple target patterns. Stop.

 I saw this pop up a few times too when I was trying to make various
 modules independently.. They would die with:
 ../LinkTarget/[Static]Library/foobar.lib.d:123: *** multiple
 target patterns. Stop.

 Does anyone recognize what this could be caused by?


 #2
 Another question: I'm looking at Tinderbox, and if I'm trying to tell
 when a good time to build is, which Windows column should I be looking
 at? Also, is there any way to find out what build options (e.g. in
 autogen.lastrun) those builds are using, so I could try to copy them?


 #3
 In my failed build on Windows, can anyone tell me if I should be
 concerned about these types of messages which I'm receiving quite a
 few of
 LinkTarget Library/glib-2.0.lib not defined: Assuming headers to be there!
 D:/Dev/libo/libo/solenv/inc/shlinfo.rc(55) : warning RC4003: not
 enough actual parameters for macro 'PPSX'
 C:/PROGRA~2/MICROS~1.0/VC/include\stdlib.h(772) : warning C4068: unknown
 pragma
 Command line warning D9025 : overriding '/DNOMINMAX' with '/UNOMINMAX'

 or this line:
 error CS1548: Cryptographic failure while signing assembly
 'd:\Dev\libo\libo\workdir\wntmsci12.pro
 \CliLibraryTarget\cli_basetypes.dll'
 -- 'Error reading key file
 'D:\\Dev\\libo\\libo\\solver\\wntmsci12.pro\\bin\\cliuno.snk' -- The
 system cannot find the file specified. '

 #4
 Finally, in tandem, I'm looking into the idea of cross compiling a
 Windows binary from Kubuntu (or whatever) based on the information
 here: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Ploum

 Is this a valid route for hacking on and testing a Windows build? Can
 I build and then copy files over to a Windows machine and run
 LibreOffice there?


 Thanks for any pointers anyone could provide.

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Re: Error on rebuild in Windows cp: missing destination file operand after

[Flavio Moringa]

I David...

so if I remove the --with-lang=en-US from my autogen and rerun it, it
might work... hummm I'm going to try that... Will tell if it works...

Thanks a lot...

Your's trully

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2012/10/16 David Tardon dtar...@redhat.com

 Hi,

 On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 09:32:20AM +0100, Flavio Moringa wrote:
  I guys,
 
  I've done a successful build on windows just to test... It went fine
 (after
  a hard fight ;-))
 
  Now I've changed some things on the autogen (for instance change
 languages
  from en-US pt to just en-US) and re-run it and also changed the
 product
  name on *instsetoo_native/util/openoffice.lst* and now everytime it
 gets
  to the tail_buil if fails doing the extensions in the OXT... it fails in
  every extension with this:
 

  Basically it seems that in the command:
  cp  $W/Extension/report-builder/root
   it's missing the first operand
 
  Can someone help me finding what's worng.. is there some environment
  variable that went missing? Where dows this cp command line commes from
  so that I can try to see what should be there (I didn't found it)?

 It is a use case that nobody has ever tried before, because en-US is the
 default language. The line comes from solenv/gbuild/ExtensionTarget.mk
 and the missing argument(s) is a list of files based on $(gb_WITH_LANG),
 but _without_ en-US. Since $(gb_WITH_LANG) contains _nothing but_ en-US
 in your case, there are no files to copy...

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Re: Error on rebuild in Windows cp: missing destination file operand after

[Flavio Moringa]

Well,

the main contact with developers should be the mailling list:
libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org



2012/10/16 Stephan Bergmann sberg...@redhat.com

 On 10/16/2012 11:14 AM, d.ostrov...@idaia.de wrote:

 Quoting David Tardon dtar...@redhat.com:

 Basically it seems that in the command:
 cp  $W/Extension/report-builder/**root
  it's missing the first operand

  It is a use case that nobody has ever tried before, because en-US is
 the
 default language. The line comes from solenv/gbuild/ExtensionTarget.**mk
 and the missing argument(s) is a list of files based on $(gb_WITH_LANG),
 but _without_ en-US. Since $(gb_WITH_LANG) contains _nothing but_ en-US
 in your case, there are no files to copy...

  the easiest way to sort this out would be to add a check in
 configure.in
 for that:
 if --with-lang=en-US then fail or unset WITH_LANG, right?


 No, the easiest thing should be to fix solenv/gbuild/ExtensionTarget.**mk.
  I understand that the other David is doing that.

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Re: Error on rebuild in Windows cp: missing destination file operand after

[Flavio Moringa]

Sorry.. wrong thread

2012/10/16 Flavio Moringa flavio.mori...@caixamagica.pt

 Well,

 the main contact with developers should be the mailling list:
 libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org




 2012/10/16 Stephan Bergmann sberg...@redhat.com

 On 10/16/2012 11:14 AM, d.ostrov...@idaia.de wrote:

 Quoting David Tardon dtar...@redhat.com:

 Basically it seems that in the command:
 cp  $W/Extension/report-builder/**root
  it's missing the first operand

  It is a use case that nobody has ever tried before, because en-US is
 the
 default language. The line comes from solenv/gbuild/ExtensionTarget.**
 mk
 and the missing argument(s) is a list of files based on $(gb_WITH_LANG),
 but _without_ en-US. Since $(gb_WITH_LANG) contains _nothing but_ en-US
 in your case, there are no files to copy...

  the easiest way to sort this out would be to add a check in
 configure.in
 for that:
 if --with-lang=en-US then fail or unset WITH_LANG, right?


 No, the easiest thing should be to fix solenv/gbuild/ExtensionTarget.**mk.
  I understand that the other David is doing that.

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Re: Error on rebuild in Windows cp: missing destination file operand after

[Flavio Moringa]

Option 1 seems fine

I understand that my problem was a stupid one... but it happened
nevertheless because I had already did a autogen with en-US pt and now I
only needed en-US so I just removed the pt... didn't even remember of
removing the full option...

If it get's fixed all the better so that stupid options like mine are taken
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2012/10/16 Stephan Bergmann sberg...@redhat.com

 On 10/16/2012 01:16 PM, David Tardon wrote:

 Yes, that is all what is needed for this particular problem. I just
 assumed that there might be further problems :-) And I was right,
 because we handle such situation differently in different places. gbuild
 classes generally expect that WITH_LANG is empty in en-US-only build and
 add deps on localize.sdf's if it is not. But translations are not built
 if WITH_LANG=en-US, so the build fails anyway. So there are two
 possibilities:

 1. let --with-lang=en-US behave in the same way as if --with-lang
 was not used at all
 2. let it behave as if any other single language was used--build
 translations, even if they are not needed, etc.

 I could probably invent arguments for both ways, if I cared enough.
 Because I do not, I am going to push option 1 (i.e., unset WITH_LANG, as
 David suggested). If anyone disagrees, feel free to revert and change
 configure.in and translations/Module_**translations.mk the other way.


 Ah, yes, I missed the bigger picture.

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Error building on windows XP SP3 using cygwin

[Flavio Moringa]

I guys,

I'm having this error building 3.6.2 on Windows (using cygwin):

###
[ build CUT ] filter_tiff_test
S=C:/libre362  O=$S/solver/wntmsci12.pro 
W=$S/workdir/wntmsci12.pro   mkdir -p $W/CppunitTest/ 
(PATH=${PATH}:/cygdrive/c/libre362/solver/wntmsci12.pro/bin
DBGSV_ERROR_OUT=shell  STAR_RESOURCEPATH=$O/bin/
$O/bin/cppunit/cppunittester.exe
$W/LinkTarget/CppunitTest/test_filter_tiff_test.dll --headless
-env:CONFIGURATION_LAYERS=xcsxcu:file:///$O/xml/registry
-env:UNO_TYPES=file:///$O/bin/udkapi.rdb file:///$O/bin/offapi.rdb
-env:UNO_SERVICES=file:///$O/xml/ure/services.rdb
file:///$O/xml/component/configmgr/source/configmgr.component
-env:URE_INTERNAL_LIB_DIR=file:///$O/bin
-env:LO_LIB_DIR=file:///$O/bin --protector unoexceptionprotector.dll
unoexceptionprotector --protector unobootstrapprotector.dll
unobootstrapprotector$W/CppunitTest/filter_tiff_test.test.log
21 || (cat $W/CppunitTest/filter_tiff_test.test.log  echo; echo
Error: a unit test failed, please do one of:; echo; echo export
DEBUGCPPUNIT=TRUE# for exception catching; echo export
GDBCPPUNITTRACE=\gdb --args\ # for interactive debugging; echo
export VALGRIND=memcheck# for memory checking ; echo
and retry.  false))
[ build CUT ] hwpfilter_test_hwpfilter

This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way.
Please contact the application's support team for more information.

Error: a unit test failed, please do one of:

export DEBUGCPPUNIT=TRUE# for exception catching
export GDBCPPUNITTRACE=gdb --args # for interactive debugging
export VALGRIND=memcheck# for memory checking
and retry.
make[2]: *** 
[C:/libre362/workdir/wntmsci12.pro/CppunitTest/extensions_test_update.test]
Error 1
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
make[2]: Leaving directory `/cygdrive/c/libre362/tail_build'
make[1]: *** [tail_build] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/cygdrive/c/libre362'
make: *** [tail_build] Error 2

###


Should I run a:
make -sr all

to bypass test checking? Any thoughts on how to fix it? Can't run valgrind
on cygwin

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Re: Document conversion engine

[Flavio Moringa]

Hi Michael,


nice to ear from someone so up the ranks like you.. makes me feel much
more important :-)

2012/7/6 Michael Meeks michael.me...@suse.com

 Hi Flavio,

 On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 11:45 +0100, Flavio Moringa wrote:
  my name is Flávio Moringa, I'm from Portugal and I'm starting my
  Masters Dissertation next September (Master in Open Source software -
  http://moss.dcti.iscte.pt ).

 Welcome :-)


Thanks


  I'm not a programmer, so what I'm interested in doing is something in
  the lines of investigating the main conversion problems, identifying
  the possible conversion flows, analysing the way the conversion flow
  is implemented in LibreOffice, and eventually trying to improve this
  flow somehow.

 So - it will be hard to improve the flow without being a
 programmer I'm
 afraid :-)


well, although not a programmer right now I've had my fair share of perl,
python, c, bash, java, php... maybe I'm not so fluent in programming
right now, but I'm certainly no strange to it, and definitely not afraid to
do it if the need arises... what I meant was that I'll probably wont't be
able to do a conversion engine by myself... but I can definitely mess
around with code...


  From your reply I assume that testing the filters, and doing
  regression tests is something I could do, maybe identifying the main
  conversion issues in groups of documents and kind of creating a major
  conversion issues table, and prioritizing those issues. Is there
  already something like that?

 There is a useful QA role in prioritising bug reports and
 interoperability issues; we have a real problem with masses of bug
 reports many of which could be duplicates. Having said that -
 interoperability has many, many known feature / impedance mis-matches
 that are non-trivial development problems to fix.

 One thing that -would- be really useful, and that Microsoft have
 internally, is an analysis tool for Microsoft's XML document formats -
 such that we can get a good idea of which attributes are actually used
 much. ie. by analysing and comparing a large corpus of documents out
 there, we can answer questions such as:

 should we implement surface charts, or 3D doughnut charts ?

 given whatever amount of feature-development time we have - simply
 by
 referring to the database of crunched XML files to work out which one is
 used most.

 It'd be nice to have that for ODF as well too of course for when we
 have to make zero-sum back-compatibility decisions; but for
 interoperability crunching those MS documents would be really good.

 Is that something you could do ? a bit of perl, zip extraction, XML
 parsing, etc. ?


Yes, it's definitely something I can do... I do believe that the harder
part is getting that  large corpus of documents out
there At least as my experience goes, I've found that it's hard to get
users to send us documents they use... either due to privacy questions or
enterprise policies... But a tool like that makes a lot of sense


 Developers are -much- more likely to let themselves be lead by
 objective statistics on real documents out there, rather than subjective
 feelings of priority - which can prove rather controversial :-)


I can certainly relate to that...



 Thanks !


For now then I'll start doing as you suggest and look in bugzilla for
documents with conversion problems to try and compile as much examples as I
can. Then maybe using the latest beta to do the conversion and see which
problems are still there. Then maybe starting a perl script that can scrap
the OOXML files to find the most used tags... and start from there...



 Michael.

 --
 michael.me...@suse.com  , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot



Thanks a lot for helping out.
Cheers

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Re: Document conversion engine

[Flavio Moringa]

Hi Robinson,

2012/7/6 Robinson Tryon bishop.robin...@gmail.com

 On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 5:51 AM, Flavio Moringa 
 flavio.mori...@caixamagica.pt wrote:


 I know that you can convert documents through the command line, using
 LibreOffice headless mode, and that can be something that's useful for
 scripting automatic tests... although I know that sometimes the main
 problems are visual and it's difficult to automatically detect the
 problems...


 I think that we still need human eyes for the final comparison, however
 the rest of the system could be automated a bit more -- e.g. we could put
 sample docs in subdirectories named by bug# and add screenshots of the docs
 as rendered in MS-Office; add in a script to have LO iterate over the
 subdirectories and spit out screenshots of how it renders the original
 files, and a little HTML GUI so that you can tab-through 2-ups of the
 original rendering vs. LO's rendering, and you've got a decent tool for
 testing improvements/regressions.


That's a good ideia, at least it would facilitate the testing, which is
always very helpful... From my initial investigation in document
conversion, the visual aspect is alwayst the difficult one because not
all thins are well translated to the XML...



 Is there any kind of repository for documents that are candidates for
 conversion testing? I mean documents which are known to have conversion
 problems, and that are used to test improvements to the filters?


 I usually just search bugzilla for conversion or formatting :-) Even
 documents attached to old bugs can be helpful, as they can serve as
 regression tests.


I've just replied to Michael Meeks that I'll do just that... try to compile
a list of available documents in bugzilla that have conversion problems,
and test them on the latest beta... And see which problems still exist...


 I would like very much to become more involved in improving the conversion
 filters, since it seems to be a major problem in LibreOffice adoption, and
 everything that can be done to help in that area would certainly boost
 LibreOffice adoption specially in the enterprise world.


 Yes, fidelity of document rendering is definitely one of the biggest
 hurdles I've faced when encouraging people to try LO. Any improvements on
 that front will be greatly appreciated!

 --R


Thanks

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Document conversion engine

[Flavio Moringa]

Hi Michael,


nice to ear from someone so up the ranks like you.. makes me feel much
more important :-)

2012/7/6 Michael Meeks michael.me...@suse.com

 Hi Flavio,

 On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 11:45 +0100, Flavio Moringa wrote:
  my name is Flávio Moringa, I'm from Portugal and I'm starting my
  Masters Dissertation next September (Master in Open Source software -
  http://moss.dcti.iscte.pt ).

 Welcome :-)


Thanks


  I'm not a programmer, so what I'm interested in doing is something in
  the lines of investigating the main conversion problems, identifying
  the possible conversion flows, analysing the way the conversion flow
  is implemented in LibreOffice, and eventually trying to improve this
  flow somehow.

 So - it will be hard to improve the flow without being a
 programmer I'm
 afraid :-)


well, although not a programmer right now I've had my fair share of perl,
python, c, bash, java, php... maybe I'm not so fluent in programming
right now, but I'm certainly no strange to it, and definitely not afraid to
do it if the need arises... what I meant was that I'll probably wont't be
able to do a conversion engine by myself... but I can definitely mess
around with code...


  From your reply I assume that testing the filters, and doing
  regression tests is something I could do, maybe identifying the main
  conversion issues in groups of documents and kind of creating a major
  conversion issues table, and prioritizing those issues. Is there
  already something like that?

 There is a useful QA role in prioritising bug reports and
 interoperability issues; we have a real problem with masses of bug
 reports many of which could be duplicates. Having said that -
 interoperability has many, many known feature / impedance mis-matches
 that are non-trivial development problems to fix.

 One thing that -would- be really useful, and that Microsoft have
 internally, is an analysis tool for Microsoft's XML document formats -
 such that we can get a good idea of which attributes are actually used
 much. ie. by analysing and comparing a large corpus of documents out
 there, we can answer questions such as:

 should we implement surface charts, or 3D doughnut charts ?

 given whatever amount of feature-development time we have - simply
 by
 referring to the database of crunched XML files to work out which one is
 used most.

 It'd be nice to have that for ODF as well too of course for when we
 have to make zero-sum back-compatibility decisions; but for
 interoperability crunching those MS documents would be really good.

 Is that something you could do ? a bit of perl, zip extraction, XML
 parsing, etc. ?


Yes, it's definitely something I can do... I do believe that the harder
part is getting that  large corpus of documents out
there At least as my experience goes, I've found that it's hard to get
users to send us documents they use... either due to privacy questions or
enterprise policies... But a tool like that makes a lot of sense


 Developers are -much- more likely to let themselves be lead by
 objective statistics on real documents out there, rather than subjective
 feelings of priority - which can prove rather controversial :-)


I can certainly relate to that...



 Thanks !


For now then I'll start doing as you suggest and look in bugzilla for
documents with conversion problems to try and compile as much examples as I
can. Then maybe using the latest beta to do the conversion and see which
problems are still there. Then maybe starting a perl script that can scrap
the OOXML files to find the most used tags... and start from there...



 Michael.

 --
 michael.me...@suse.com  , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot



Thanks a lot for helping out.
Cheers

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Re: Document conversion engine

[Flavio Moringa]

Hi Michael,

first of all thanks for replying.. I was thinking no one would :-)

From your reply I assume that testing the filters, and doing regression
tests is something I could do, maybe identifying the main conversion issues
in groups of documents and kind of creating a major conversion issues
table, and prioritizing those issues. Is there already something like that?

I know that you can convert documents through the command line, using
LibreOffice headless mode, and that can be something that's useful for
scripting automatic tests... although I know that sometimes the main
problems are visual and it's difficult to automatically detect the
problems...

Is there any kind of repository for documents that are candidates for
conversion testing? I mean documents which are known to have conversion
problems, and that are used to test improvements to the filters?

I would like very much to become more involved in improving the conversion
filters, since it seems to be a major problem in LibreOffice adoption, and
everything that can be done to help in that area would certainly boost
LibreOffice adoption specially in the enterprise world.

Thanks
Flávio

2012/7/5 Michael Stahl mst...@redhat.com

 hi Flavio,

 On 03/07/12 12:45, Flavio Moringa wrote:

  I chose as my masters dissertation investigation topic trying to improve
  the document conversion engine in LibreOffice (ex: converting docx to
  odt), and as such I would like to know who is working on the conversion
  engines and how can I help.

 the document conversion engines in LibreOffice are called Writer, Calc,
 Draw and Impress.  conversion from e.g. DOCX to ODT happens by importing
 the DOCX file with the DOCX import filter into Writer, and then
 exporting the document from Writer with the ODF export filter.

 there are also a few filters (such as XSLT filters, and writerperfect if
 i remember correctly) that use ODF as an intermediate format, i.e., they
 import by converting their format to ODF and then importing that into
 the LO application, and export the reverse way.

  I'm not a programmer, so what I'm interested in doing is something in
  the lines of investigating the main conversion problems, identifying the
  possible conversion flows, analysing the way the conversion flow is
  implemented in LibreOffice, and eventually trying to improve this flow
  somehow.

 it seems to me the main conversion problem is a lack of manpower to
 improve the filters.  oh, and more regression tests would be useful.




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Document conversion engine

[Flavio Moringa]

Hello,

my name is Flávio Moringa, I'm from Portugal and I'm starting my Masters
Dissertation next September (Master in Open Source software -
http://moss.dcti.iscte.pt ).

I'm the Caixa Mágica project leader, the main Linux distribution in
Portugal (http://www.caixamagica.pt), with deploys reaching almost a
million machines with our Linux distribution, mainly in Education.

I chose as my masters dissertation investigation topic trying to improve
the document conversion engine in LibreOffice (ex: converting docx to odt),
and as such I would like to know who is working on the conversion engines
and how can I help.

I'm not a programmer, so what I'm interested in doing is something in the
lines of investigating the main conversion problems, identifying the
possible conversion flows, analysing the way the conversion flow is
implemented in LibreOffice, and eventually trying to improve this flow
somehow.

For now I'd like just to get to know the people involved, development
plans, and all informatioin you find relevant.

Hope to ear from you. You can contact-me directly if you which at:
flavio.moringaATcaixamagica.pt

Your's trully

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