RE: Windows 10 prerequisite for 7.2.0? (so abandon Windows 7 and avoid Windows 8)
Without knowing to much about the differences between developing for windows7 and windows10. I would always suggest an approach where you do not enforce anything that is outside of your core business as an office application suite. Eg. as in what OS someone is using. -Original Message- To: libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org Subject: Re: Windows 10 prerequisite for 7.2.0? (so abandon Windows 7 and avoid Windows 8) On 3.1.2021 11.55, julien2412 wrote: > Taking a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7, Windows 7 > (released in 2009) is now only "eligible for the Extended Security > Updates service. This service is available via OEMs, in yearly installments. > Security updates are available for the operating system until at most > January 10, 2023 only for Professional and Enterprise volume licensed > editions" > > What about asking Windows 8 or rather Windows 10 as prerequisite for > future LO 7.2.0 Windows version? > > (benefit: not wasting time on an obsolete system if not in dev part in > QA part for example) ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
RE: Is there any effort or discussion yet about collaborative use of libreoffice applications?
> but a) it looks like a commercial product? b) it sounds like they just run libreoffice on a web server and project the instance to whoever's on that > webpage. c) somebody has to supply the 'cloud' that it runs on. I am having same impression. You actually do not need a cloud, for me it was just a 'bridge' to edit docs on a thin client like a tablet that I do not want to connect to a network share. I would not even use this a lot, but I thought it would be easy and quick to realize, after seeing the videos on youtube with all this bla bla on how libre office online is so nice. -Original Message- From: Stu [mailto:n...@exprodigy.net] Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 1:56 PM To: Marc Roos Cc: tml; libreoffice Subject: Re: Is there any effort or discussion yet about collaborative use of libreoffice applications? Well, I wasn't trying to start a flamewar or a drama episode or anything. I didn't know collabawhatever was a thing. but a) it looks like a commercial product? b) it sounds like they just run libreoffice on a web server and project the instance to whoever's on that webpage. c) somebody has to supply the 'cloud' that it runs on. I'm a big fan of fat clients. ms word and libre office will always be superior to google docs (in my opinion only obviously) because it runs locally on my machine. What I was getting at was a way to make a fat client collaborative. But if there's no interest, I'll drop it. Thanks for the info. On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 9:07 AM Marc Roos wrote: :) No but is really a question. I want to try a bit this libre office online and I am not even able to get a simple test environment running that creates a odt file that I can edit from multiple clients. Even the manual of libre online online ~50% writing about other products/services. -Original Message- Cc: nixo; libreoffice Subject: Re: Is there any effort or discussion yet about collaborative use of libreoffice applications? Why do people send collabra office stuff on a libre office mailing list The question is clearly about libre office. Oh sorry then. I will now go back in the corner to enjoy my popcorn. --tml ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
RE: Is there any effort or discussion yet about collaborative use of libreoffice applications?
> > :) No but is really a question. I want to try a bit this libre office >> online and I am not even able to get a simple test environment running >> that creates a odt file that I can edit from multiple clients. >> Even the manual of libre online online ~50% writing about other >> products/services. > >If you want a LibreOffice Online that isn't from Collabora, feel free to >develop it yourself. The Document Foundation will welcome your >contributions. If you can't or won't do that, feel free to use Collabora >Online Development Edition for free. Imho there should be one 'Libre office online' the one from Libre office(The Document Foundation). If collabra has a different version than that should be crystal clear. Why is collabra not using the name collabra oline? I think this collabra would be pretty pissed, if I start developing a product under 'Collabra online'. Furthermore why are then Collabra people on the libre office mailing list, if they even uphold such distinction between their version and the libre office online version? Who is updating these docker images then the Libre office online account on dockerhub? The document foundation or is it again collabra using their product? And when writing this, I thought about looking at github and there is again the libreoffice online account[2] also 'hijacked' by collabra people. I honestly do not get why on a libreoffice online github, big is written 'collabra online'. Why does this collabra not use an own repository? I have read a bit the trade mark policy[1] of the document foundation. I think Collabra is clearly breaching this 'its use be non-confusing.' clause. Does this not mean that there are a lot of contributors out there thinking they are developing for libre office, while in fact they are working (for free) on collabra software? To be honest things are getting more vague than clear to me. >The easiest way to use Collabora Online is to install Nextcloud [0] and >then add the Collabora Office app. > That is really sad. Because the easiest way should be 'run libre office online'. The reason why I am searching for Libre Office online, is that I do not want some other software or app. I want to publish a 'write document' via a web interface so I can share it, nothing more nothing less. Why should anyone need an app or a cloud to do this. [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Policies/Trademark_Policy [2] https://github.com/LibreOffice/online ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
RE: Is there any effort or discussion yet about collaborative use of libreoffice applications?
> What I was getting at was a way to make a fat client collaborative. Calc has a share option now not? Where multiple users should be able to edit the same version. I think that is nice, I prefer to have such a thing more for write, but it is a nice start. I think it is not 100% ok, because I did not get any updated changes of others, or I am not using it correctly. -Original Message- From: Caolán McNamara [mailto:caol...@redhat.com] Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 9:41 PM To: Stu Cc: libreoffice Subject: Re: Is there any effort or discussion yet about collaborative use of libreoffice applications? On Sun, 2020-12-13 at 07:56 -0500, Stu wrote: > What I was getting at was a way to make a fat client collaborative. For a while we have an experimental --enable-telepathy option, so searching for "telepathy libreoffice" will throw up some old attempts similar to that. e.g. https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62722 but eventually effort in that direction was dropped with https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=b7b159d79c2b4ec53915e0b9c3e28912c289a5ba ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
RE: Is there any effort or discussion yet about collaborative use of libreoffice applications?
Why do people send collabra office stuff on a libre office mailing list The question is clearly about libre office. -Original Message- To: Stu Cc: libreoffice-dev Subject: Re: Is there any effort or discussion yet about collaborative use of libreoffice applications? See https://www.collaboraoffice.com/collabora-online and https://github.com/CollaboraOnline/online . --tml ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
RE: getting started with libreoffice online
I browsed through this manual before. What I think is a bit strange about this manual, it quickly assumes you have some sort of cloud connection. I also do not get why write/calc are even discussed, they already have their own manuals. I think this manual should start with getting libreoffice online working without any other 3rd party connections. Just create a file and be able to edit it. To be able to quickly test it, and see if it fits your needs. Up until now, I have not even been able to get a test environment running with this docker. I edited the loolwsd.xml, enabled the filesystem and added ip's. But just keep getting error messages. I am not sure if you are aware, but these docker images do not even have version tags. I also start to wonder now what all these videos on youtube are all about. I get the impression this is still in some alpha/beta phase, is this correct? I am missing something in the manual about linking it to a standarized object storage api like ceph or amazon use. > >I found this link: >https://documentation.libreoffice.org/en/english-documentation/ > >This is version 6.3. We are working on updating to 7.0, but this may take some time. > >> >> >> Dan, can you help with this? >> >> -Original Message- >> >> To: libreoffice >> Subject: RE: getting started with libreoffice online >> >> >> >> Can anyone point me to a manual where I can just run the libreoffice >> online and edit some files on a tablet for instance? >> >> Are these strange questions wanting to know what the rest api >> documentation is? >> > ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
RE: getting started with libreoffice online
Dan, can you help with this? -Original Message- To: libreoffice Subject: RE: getting started with libreoffice online Can anyone point me to a manual where I can just run the libreoffice online and edit some files on a tablet for instance? Are these strange questions wanting to know what the rest api documentation is? ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
RE: getting started with libreoffice online
Can anyone point me to a manual where I can just run the libreoffice online I edit some files on a tablet for instance? Are these strange questions wanting to know what the rest api documentation is? ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
getting started with libreoffice online
I tried in October to get the docker image running, but cannot find
anything usefull in the documentation to get started with libreoffice
online, there is more written there about other products.
Eg docs on api calls I can not find. How to create a new empty file? How
to view this empty file? Basically I just want to mount a docker volume
and be able to open these files. Authentication is for now not an issue.
I just want to see how this works.
I tried copying a file to the docker image. But still this url won't
open it.
https://localhost:9980/loleaflet/dist/loleaflet.html?file_path=file:///test.odt=wss://localhost:9980
I am getting these errors in the docker image:
[1]
pkill: killing pid 6844 failed: Operation not permitted
sh: 1: /usr/bin/loolmount: Operation not permitted
[2]
wsd-07060-07091 2020-10-22 21:59:46.631783 [ websrv_poll ] ERR Socket
#24 SSL BIO error: error:14094418:SSL routines:ssl3_read_bytes:tlsv1
alert unknown ca (0: Success)| ./net/SslSocket.hpp:291
wsd-07060-07091 2020-10-22 21:59:46.633129 [ websrv_poll ] ERR Error
while handling poll for socket #24 in websrv_poll: error:14094418:SSL
routines:ssl3_read_bytes:tlsv1 alert unknown ca| net/Socket.cp
p:314
kit-07089-07087 2020-10-22 21:59:55.689551 [ kit_spare_001 ] SIG Fatal
signal received: SIGABRT
Backtrace 7089:
/usr/bin/loolforkit(_ZN7SigUtil13dumpBacktraceEv+0x5e)[0x55e9fa3206ae]
/usr/bin/loolforkit(+0xd5ea5)[0x55e9fa320ea5]
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0(+0x128a0)[0x7fb24ea5c8a0]
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(gsignal+0xc7)[0x7fb24e697f47]
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(abort+0x141)[0x7fb24e6998b1]
/opt/libreoffice/program/libuno_sal.so.3(+0x3416a)[0x7fb24437416a]
/opt/libreoffice/program/libuno_sal.so.3(+0x2e576)[0x7fb24436e576]
/opt/libreoffice/program/libmergedlo.so(+0xfeb883)[0x7fb249111883]
/opt/libreoffice/program/libmergedlo.so(_ZN3psp16PrintFontManager15conve
rtSfntNameEPv+0x53f)[0x7fb24b3f8f9f]
/opt/libreoffice/program/libmergedlo.so(_ZN3psp16PrintFontManager21analy
zeSfntFamilyNameEPKvRSt6vectorIN3rtl8OUStringESaIS5_EE+0x1c3)[0x7fb24b3f
9923]
/opt/libreoffice/program/libmergedlo.so(_ZNK3psp16PrintFontManager15anal
yzeSfntFileEPNS0_9PrintFontE+0xa2)[0x7fb24b3f9dc2]
/opt/libreoffice/program/libmergedlo.so(_ZNK3psp16PrintFontManager15anal
yzeFontFileEiRKN3rtl7OStringEPKc+0x294)[0x7fb24b3fa6f4]
/opt/libreoffice/program/libmergedlo.so(_ZN3psp16PrintFontManager20count
FontconfigFontsERSt13unordered_mapIN3rtl7OStringEiSt4hashIS3_ESt8equal_t
oIS3_ESaISt4pairIKS3_iEEE+0x4ca)[0x7fb24b3f60aa]
/opt/libreoffice/program/libmergedlo.so(_ZN3psp16PrintFontManager10initi
alizeEv+0x11f)[0x7fb24b3f969f]
/opt/libreoffice/program/libmergedlo.so(_ZN3psp16PrintFontManager3getEv+
0x20)[0x7fb24b3f89c0]
/opt/libreoffice/program/libmergedlo.so(_ZN22FreeTypeTextRenderImpl14Get
DevFontListEP22PhysicalFontCollection+0x40)[0x7fb24b3edd60]
/opt/libreoffice/program/libmergedlo.so(+0x3009f19)[0x7fb24b12ff19]
/opt/libreoffice/program/libmergedlo.so(+0x300a42c)[0x7fb24b13042c]
/opt/libreoffice/program/libmergedlo.so(+0x300ab8e)[0x7fb24b130b8e]
/opt/libreoffice/program/libmergedlo.so(_ZNK12OutputDevice13GetTextHeigh
tEv+0x9)[0x7fb24b1343a9]
/opt/libreoffice/program/libmergedlo.so(+0x2f2d787)[0x7fb24b053787]
/opt/libreoffice/program/libmergedlo.so(_ZN11Application11SetSettingsERK
11AllSettings+0x1c8)[0x7fb24b3345f8]
/opt/libreoffice/program/libmergedlo.so(+0x224d0c7)[0x7fb24a3730c7]
/opt/libreoffice/program/libmergedlo.so(+0x224d930)[0x7fb24a373930]
/opt/libreoffice/program/libmergedlo.so(+0x224dcb1)[0x7fb24a373cb1]
/opt/libreoffice/program/libmergedlo.so(_ZN14SvtMiscOptionsC1Ev+0x11d)[0
x7fb24a374cad]
/opt/libreoffice/program/libmergedlo.so(+0x209b987)[0x7fb24a1c1987]
/opt/libreoffice/program/libmergedlo.so(_Z10ImplSVMainv+0x46)[0x7fb24b33
ad86]
/opt/libreoffice/program/libmergedlo.so(soffice_main+0x11d)[0x7fb24a1e26
cd]
/opt/libreoffice/program/libmergedlo.so(+0x20cc151)[0x7fb24a1f2151]
/usr/bin/loolforkit(_Z10lokit_mainRKNSt7__cxx1112basic_stringIcSt11char_
traitsIcESaIcEEES6_S6_S6_S6_m+0x2562)[0x55e9fa2c6142]
/usr/bin/loolforkit(+0x64677)[0x55e9fa2af677]
/usr/bin/loolforkit(main+0x1693)[0x55e9fa280853]
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xe7)[0x7fb24e67ab97]
/usr/bin/loolforkit(_start+0x2a)[0x55e9fa28221a]
frk-07087-07087 2020-10-22 21:59:56.214826 [ forkit ] WRN No live Kits
exist, and we are not terminating yet.| kit/ForKit.cpp:271
[3]
wsd-07135-07855 2020-10-22 22:09:46.058033 [ docbroker_00a ] WRN
link("/tmp/test.txt",
"/opt/lool/child-roots/m4jCsG5GwcSzlEgS/tmp/user/docs/m4jCsG5GwcSzlEgS/t
est.txt") failed. Will copy. Linking error: EPERM Operation not
permitted| wsd/Storage.cpp:335
[4]
/loleaflet/dist/admin/adminAnalytics.html#memview
wsd-07982-08021 2020-10-23 07:50:44.865044 [ websrv_poll ] WRN client -
server version mismatch, disabling browser cache. Expected: 215a76e21|
wsd/FileServer.cpp:287
wsd-07982-08021 2020-10-23 07:50:44.994165 [ websrv_poll ] WRN
FileServerRequestHandler:
Libreoffice online questions
I was a while back on this irc support and there they reffered me to the development mailing list for libreoffice online questions. But I cannot remember exactly what the mailinglist was, is this the correct one? ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
