Reveal code, old macros convert them to LO
From time to time the question pops up whether LO could support Wordperfects reveal code. Sometimes it is stated that this feature could be implemented by a macro/extension. Now I remember that long time ago such macros existed and using the wayback machine I found them. They were written around 2005 for OO 1.2, using the sxw format. I tried them out in LO 6.2 and they don't work. Is there somebody with enough knownledge in macros to translate those macros to LO 6.2? Thanks and regards Uwe Brauer ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Reveal code, old macros convert them to LO
>>> "TB" == Thorsten Behrens writes: > Hi Uwe, > Uwe Brauer wrote: >> Is there somebody with enough knownledge in macros to translate those >> macros to LO 6.2? >> > Perhaps - I'd suggest you upload them somewhere (provided they are > available under an open source license) & post a link here. Whats about that? They are under GPL https://web.archive.org/web/20180326030224/http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/hillview/OOo/ > Preferably as a bug report at bugs.documentfoundation.org; you can > include a description on how to run them / what is expected to work > there. For that I most likely need 1.1 to run (not sure whether this is possible to do under Ubuntu 16.04) Uwe smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Reveal code, old macros convert them to LO
>>> "AP" == Andrew Pitonyak writes: > So I read your response to say... > If it is a read only display them it is not worth the time to bother with > it... > That is certainly easier than trying to make it work :-) I would say, read only is a first step and if users start to like it then maybe the developer are more inclined to make it editable too. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Reveal code, old macros convert them to LO
>>> "Wl" == Wol's lists writes: > On 04/07/2019 11:08, Uwe Brauer wrote: >> >> From time to time the question pops up whether LO could support >> Wordperfects reveal code. Sometimes it is stated that this feature could >> be implemented by a macro/extension. > Bear in mind that "reveal codes" is an EDITING window. That was what > was wrong with MS's pale imitation. So if your macros merely display > the formatting of a paragraph, that is NOT NOT NOT "reveal codes", and > any WordPerfect lover will simply ignore it. > And yes, I would dearly love to have reveal codes back - so much so > that I am seriously considering shelling out for an up-to-date copy of > WordPerfect, but sadly I suspect Corel have butchered it. WP8 was > ported to linux, but that requires libc5, and I'm not aware of any > newer linux compatible version (WP9, aka WP2000, was implemented on > top of Wine, but I've never managed to get Wine to run WordPerfect 8 > or earlier, which are the "real" versions. WP9 was the Corel Windows > re-write - yeuch!!!) You could try a virtual machine with Ubuntu 5.04 which still relies on lib5c. ;-) I managed to obtain the relevant WP files from some obscure ftp server, but they don't run on Ubuntu 16.04 precisely on that reason. If you manage to run them on a modern Ubuntu version, please let me know. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Reveal code, old macros convert them to LO
> On 05/07/19 09:16, Uwe Brauer wrote: > Sorry but that completely misses the point. If it's read-only I won't > even bother to learn how to use it ... The point is: Since almost 10 years people are demanding such a feature and nothing happened. All I am saying is: if a read only feature can be _easily implemented_, then maybe more people will start even to consider such a feature as being useful and the pressure to have it as «a power tool» will grow. The alternative would be «shut up and how me your code», but I can't provide you the feature you desire, because I know almost nothing about LO internals. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Reveal code, old macros convert them to LO
>>> "Wl" == Wol's lists writes: > On 04/07/2019 11:08, Uwe Brauer wrote: > And yes, I would dearly love to have reveal codes back - so much so > that I am seriously considering shelling out for an up-to-date copy of > WordPerfect, but sadly I suspect Corel have butchered it. WP8 was > ported to linux, but that requires libc5, and I'm not aware of any > newer linux compatible version (WP9, aka WP2000, was implemented on > top of Wine, but I've never managed to get Wine to run WordPerfect 8 > or earlier, which are the "real" versions. WP9 was the Corel Windows > re-write - yeuch!!!) Did you try this? https://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-998675.html smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Reveal code, old macros convert them to LO
> On 05/07/19 13:15, Uwe Brauer wrote: > THANK YOU VERY MUCH! > I've never seen that, but I've got the linux WP8 somewhere, plus licence > keys, so I'll have to try. I run gentoo, so it'll be a bit different, > but ... :-) BTW, the relevant files mentioned, you will find via https://archive.org/web/ If you are successful please let me know. The problem of course is, this is WP from 2005, so you most likely won't be able to open recent MS Word documents.[1] Regards Uwe Footnotes: [1] BTW, it was a MS Word document, which I had to edit and which drove me crazy because the mark up was distorted by LO. This was one of the reasons why I thought reveal code would be useful, to get a hint what is wrong and where. Finally I could edit the file in kingsoffice. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Reveal code, old macros convert them to LO
> On 05/07/19 13:14, Uwe Brauer wrote: > And all I am saying is that the feature you describe sounds to me > NOTHING LIKE reveal codes, and personally I can't see any use for it. > The Word equivalent is "show formatting" which - like I said - was > ignored by lusers and power users alike because they couldn't see any > use for it. My motivation was partiall caused by a MS Word document, which I had to edit and the mark up was distorted by LO (most likely this file was written 15 ago and then saved in different formats). So I hoped a reveal code feature would help to understand what is the problem and where. > Do you know lilypond and frescobaldi? I am using LaTeX on a daily basis (with GNU Emacs) and use LO and friends only on certain occasions. So you don't have to convince me on that. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Reveal code, old macros convert them to LO
>>> "TL" == Tor Lillqvist writes: > No. There are no "codes" to "reveal" in LibreOffice. > If you want to use a markup format, use a markup format, in a plain text > editor. Simple as that. LaTeX for instance. I think you miss the point and I am saying that as long time user of latex, (daily basis) using GNU emacs. The issue is, what if you force to deal with docx and you run into problems? Then that feature might be useful. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Reveal code, old macros convert them to LO
>>> "TL" == Tor Lillqvist writes: >> >> >> >> The issue is, what if you force to deal with docx and you run into >> problems? > The data structure inside a .docx has very little relationship to the > internal data structures inside LO, so it would be extremely hard to > display "codes" from the .docx in the LibreOffice UI. > What you can do is unzip the .docx, edit the .xml files inside, update them > into the .docx? For some specific mechanical mass changes, or trivial > detail changes, that you can't do in LO, might work. That I tried of course, I even installed the oxygen xml editor, but it was hopeless. The xml files of the docx where just a mess. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Reveal code, old macros convert them to LO
> On 06/07/19 07:36, Uwe Brauer wrote: > Plus I'm a *text* guy. MS is very much a *visual* company (as are most > people, actually). So the MS way of doing things is alien to me - the WP > way of "here's a gui, this drops into the text setup behind it" is just > *so* *easy*. If you are really a *text* guy, I'd recommend you to give GNU emacs a shot. Nowadays it comes with org mode, which is a sort of ASCII/UTF8 based enhanced text mode, including a very good table editor and best of all you can export it to all sort of formats, odt for example, if you use pandoc you can even save it to docx. https://orgmode.org/ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Reveal code, old macros convert them to LO
> On 7/7/19 4:35 PM, Wols Lists wrote: > I now possess a copy of the offending .docx document and the PDF > version of it. (It contains 1.6MB, so it will take some time.) > Tomorrow, I will be determining what is necessary to fix it. Rather > than guess as to what would be required, I will find out. I think this > would be much more useful for others. I will report back when I am > finished. I will be grateful, but I am afraid this document is beyond help, however I have to deal with it, that is to modify and to save so that other MS Word users can read and print it. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Reveal Codes macros now works
>>> "AP" == Andrew Pitonyak writes: > There was so much static related to the orginal question, that I opted to > simply started a new thread. > I was provided with a linke to the orignal documents: > https://web.archive.org/web/20180326030224/http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/hillview/OOo/ > There are three documents and I have the original description listed below, > but, this is what I did. > I ignored the original document. I have working copies of documents 2 > and 3. They are not well tested, but, they are in the ODT format, and > they seem to do what they are supposed. I don't think i can attach > them. I can post them to my own site later tonight, or, I can post > them in some other suggested location. I would very much appreciate having a copy of these three files. As for the site, I can't come up with any solution I have tested. Dropbox is out of question I presume. Thanks again for you work. Uwe smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Reveal Codes macros now works
> On 10/07/19 17:54, Andrew Pitonyak wrote: > I would also appreciate having a copy of them to try. Unfortunately, I > am likely to be highly critical, but then, I hope those comments will be > helpful. Please take in mind, that Andrew is not the original author. I find it very generous of him to provide his help to make these macros work. My hope is, as I said elsewhere, that others developer get and idea of the feature and might generalize it to not read only. > Please do email them directly ... > No your changes are NOT GPL if you don't want them to be. Please mark > your changes as being under the LO MPL licence. Okay, the resultant file > can only be *distributed* under the GPL, but if somebody then rewrites > the GPL stuff out, the file will change to LO licence. I am not sure I understand (I am no lawyer, but I have contributed over the years to GPL software). I thought GPL is a rather capitalistic license, you obtain something (code) you have to pay for it (by your code). So if you modify a existing program under GPL (and I think modify means here more than 5 lines of code, either add functionality or modify it), you must release the code under the same license. You are not allowed to release them under stay CC, or MIT or whatsoever. So when you say your code, do you mean these 5 lines and whether you can release these 5 lines under the license of your choice. Is that what you mean? Regards Uwe smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
LO does not run on Ubuntu 16.04
Hi I am still on Ubuntu 16.04. After the installation of LO, /opt/libreoffice7.2/program/swriter I obtain opt/libreoffice7.2/program/soffice.bin: symbol lookup error: /opt/libreoffice7.2/program/libvclplug_gtk3lo.so: undefined symbol: gtk_widget_path_iter_set_object_name I tried to follow the advice found in https://ask.libreoffice.org/t/installed-libreoffice-7-1-on-ubuntu-16-04-lts-it-does-not-start-and-i-get-the-following-error/61992/3 But it does not work Any help would be appreciated Regards Uwe Brauer
[SOLVED sort of ] (was: LO does not run on Ubuntu 16.04)
>>> "CM" == Caolán McNamara writes: > On Sat, 2021-10-09 at 18:25 +0200, Uwe Brauer wrote: >> /opt/libreoffice7.2/program/soffice.bin: symbol lookup error: >> /opt/libreoffice7.2/program/libvclplug_gtk3lo.so: undefined symbol: >> gtk_widget_path_iter_set_object_name > You need gtk3 >= 3.20.0 I hoped that sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3-staging sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3 Would resolve it, it seems not to be the case, however: For tcsh setenv SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN gen For bash export SAL_USE_VCLPLUG=gen «Solved» the issue. BTW, LO 7.2 seems to start much faster than LO 6.2 The converter to docx concerning images still does not work flawlessly. Shall I open an issue, or is this well known smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: [SOLVED sort of ]
>>> "RE" == Rene Engelhard writes: > Hi, >> I hoped that >> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3-staging >> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3 > Maybe you just shouldn't use a ~ 7.5 years old release? Yeah I know, I have my reasons believe me, but I have to resolve this issue. > Even the various "current" LTSes contain 3.22: I finally managed to install 3.20.8 which is sufficient smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
