Re: [Libreoffice] [REVIEW] text orientation, not text direction
Hi Lior, *, On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Lior Kaplan kaplanl...@gmail.com wrote: In my RTL bugs talk during the conference, I showed a weird option in the tables options - text flow tab which refers to RTL text as vertical (guessing a feature for Japanese). See attached screen shot. I'm attaching to patches to fix this: 1. A string change (trivial). But that change doesn't improve anything at all. I immediately understand what the difference between left-to-right and right-to-left (vertical) means, but what the heck is horizontal? that could also be right-to-left, and more importantly: Vertical could also be left-to-right written vertically. So I don't see any benefit in changing those. (on the contrary, it would replace clear labels with need to try them to figure out what they do ones. As for Text direction vs Text orientation - I don't really care, although I'd associate left-aligned vs right-aligned more with orientation, and the overall writing layout with direction, but then again I'm not a native speaker... ciao Christian ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice] [REVIEW] text orientation, not text direction
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Christian Lohmaier lohmaier+libreoff...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Lior, *, On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Lior Kaplan kaplanl...@gmail.com wrote: In my RTL bugs talk during the conference, I showed a weird option in the tables options - text flow tab which refers to RTL text as vertical (guessing a feature for Japanese). See attached screen shot. I'm attaching to patches to fix this: 1. A string change (trivial). But that change doesn't improve anything at all. I immediately understand what the difference between left-to-right and right-to-left (vertical) means, but what the heck is horizontal? that could also be right-to-left, and more importantly: Vertical could also be left-to-right written vertically. These options doesn't touch the text directionality (RTL/LTR) but only decide whether it goes horizontally or vertically. So I don't see any benefit in changing those. (on the contrary, it would replace clear labels with need to try them to figure out what they do ones. As for Text direction vs Text orientation - I don't really care, although I'd associate left-aligned vs right-aligned more with orientation, and the overall writing layout with direction, but then again I'm not a native speaker... I've changed this text for two reason: 1. To diffrenciate from the Text direction on the table tab (the previous tab in the same window). There the options are RTL and LTR which is right. 2. To use the same terminology as other word processing software. I hope this better explains the reasons for the patch. Kaplan ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice] [REVIEW] text orientation, not text direction
Hi Lior, Thank you for the patch! It seems that it caused some misunderstanding, so maybe it might be good to CC: the UX guys for the suggestion of wording? - CC'd now. UX guys - please have a look at Lior's suggestion; for a screenshot of what he means, see his original mail in the ML archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2011-October/019944.html mainly: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/attachments/20111030/9a4f3746/attachment-0001.png http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/attachments/20111030/9a4f3746/attachment-0002.obj How does that sound? Thank you, Kendy On 2011-10-31 at 17:03 +0200, Lior Kaplan wrote: On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Christian Lohmaier lohmaier +libreoff...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Lior, *, On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Lior Kaplan kaplanl...@gmail.com wrote: In my RTL bugs talk during the conference, I showed a weird option in the tables options - text flow tab which refers to RTL text as vertical (guessing a feature for Japanese). See attached screen shot. I'm attaching to patches to fix this: 1. A string change (trivial). But that change doesn't improve anything at all. I immediately understand what the difference between left-to-right and right-to-left (vertical) means, but what the heck is horizontal? that could also be right-to-left, and more importantly: Vertical could also be left-to-right written vertically. These options doesn't touch the text directionality (RTL/LTR) but only decide whether it goes horizontally or vertically. So I don't see any benefit in changing those. (on the contrary, it would replace clear labels with need to try them to figure out what they do ones. As for Text direction vs Text orientation - I don't really care, although I'd associate left-aligned vs right-aligned more with orientation, and the overall writing layout with direction, but then again I'm not a native speaker... I've changed this text for two reason: 1. To diffrenciate from the Text direction on the table tab (the previous tab in the same window). There the options are RTL and LTR which is right. 2. To use the same terminology as other word processing software. I hope this better explains the reasons for the patch. Kaplan ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
