Re: [Libreoffice] Canonical has a vacancy for a LibO specialist software engineer

[Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai]

2010-11-11 13:39 keltezéssel, Rene Engelhard írta:
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:10:02PM +, Wols Lists wrote:
>> This is a *single* email (aplified by the list, yes), sent to a bunch of
> Wrong. disc...@documentfoundation.org got one too. So two mails,
> amplified by two lists.
>
> And on TDF list, it is *not* LibO-related.
>
> Grüße/Regards,
>
> René
If TDF means Tour de France ;o)




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Re: [Libreoffice] Canonical has a vacancy for a LibO specialist software engineer

[Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai]

We have basically asked for these types of mails and I am very happy to
> see them coming in. Independent on which organizatino will be paying the
> bill. This one is very much on-topic. Also, it has not been the
> organization sending the mail, but one individual who (rightfully)
> thought people could be interested to get more resources to dedicate
> time to LO.
>
> But I am going to shut up now on this thread.
> Sebastian

+1

KAMI




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Re: [Libreoffice] Canonical has a vacancy for a LibO specialist software engineer

[Kevin Hunter]

At 6:04am -0500 Thu, 11 Nov 2010, Caolán McNamara wrote:

On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 11:23 +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote:

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 05:55:44PM +0800, David Nelson wrote:

I'm just giving you a heads-up because I was contacted by Jason
Warner of Canonical ([1]jason.war...@canonical.com and
jasoncwarner on Freenode)


And because of this you spam this list with a unsolicited job
offer?


FWIW I reckon its fairly on-topic. It is a LibreOffice related job
offer, and I'm happy to see Canonical weigh in.


Not that I have much pull in this community, but I also believe the 
email to have been on topic.  I do not consider it spam, and, though I 
likely will not be changing jobs anytime soon, would welcome more of 
these on-target emails.  If it doesn't apply to me, it likely applies to 
someone else on this list, and I am perfectly capable of hitting the 
delete button.


Cheers,

Kevin

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Re: [Libreoffice] Canonical has a vacancy for a LibO specialist software engineer

[Rene Engelhard]

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:10:02PM +, Wols Lists wrote:
> This is a *single* email (aplified by the list, yes), sent to a bunch of

Wrong. disc...@documentfoundation.org got one too. So two mails,
amplified by two lists.

And on TDF list, it is *not* LibO-related.

Grüße/Regards,

René
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Re: [Libreoffice] Canonical has a vacancy for a LibO specialist software engineer

[Wols Lists]

On 11/11/10 11:03, Rene Engelhard wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 06:49:33PM +0800, David Nelson wrote:
>> Well, I did not think of it as *spamming* as such, because it concerns
> It's a unsolicited commercial mail. And bulk because it's on a ml which gets 
> to
> many people. That perfectly fits the definition of spam.
>
Actually, it DOESN'T fit the definition of spam.

Spam is bulk email*s* blasted out to any and all email addresses the
sender can find, the majority of which have no interest in it.

This is a *single* email (aplified by the list, yes), sent to a bunch of
people because the sender thinks a large minority at least really will
have an interest.

Cheers,
Wol
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Re: [Libreoffice] Canonical has a vacancy for a LibO specialist software engineer

[Tor Lillqvist]

> Well, I did not think of it as *spamming* as such,

I agree with David here. I did not mind the vacancy announcement at all, and 
welcome such in the future, too. (As long as they are *true* ones by companies 
with a real interest in LibreOffice, and not just, well, spam;)

--tml


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Re: [Libreoffice] Canonical has a vacancy for a LibO specialist software engineer

[Rene Engelhard]

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:22:09PM +0100, Sebastian Spaeth wrote:
> "It welcomes corporate participation, e.g. by sponsoring individuals to
> work as equals alongside other contributors in the community."

Yes.

> "Come and join us! Subscribe to our mailing lists and support us with
> your skills! " 

How is "support us with your skills!" indentical to "post a job offer"?

> We have basically asked for these types of mails and I am very happy to

I disagree. We asked for participation, yes, but...

> organization sending the mail, but one individual who (rightfully)
> thought people could be interested to get more resources to dedicate
> time to LO.

True. I didn't say anything about
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/11/msg00180.html, but IMHO this
post crossed the line.

Grüße/Regards,

René
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Re: [Libreoffice] Canonical has a vacancy for a LibO specialist software engineer

[Sebastian Spaeth]

On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 12:03:32 +0100, Rene Engelhard  wrote:
> It's a unsolicited commercial mail.

Réne, we say on the *initial* page on http://documentfoundation.org about
the foundation:

"It welcomes corporate participation, e.g. by sponsoring individuals to
work as equals alongside other contributors in the community."

and on the development page we say:

"Come and join us! Subscribe to our mailing lists and support us with
your skills! " 

We have basically asked for these types of mails and I am very happy to
see them coming in. Independent on which organizatino will be paying the
bill. This one is very much on-topic. Also, it has not been the
organization sending the mail, but one individual who (rightfully)
thought people could be interested to get more resources to dedicate
time to LO.

But I am going to shut up now on this thread.
Sebastian


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Re: [Libreoffice] Canonical has a vacancy for a LibO specialist software engineer

[Noel Power]

On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 11:23 +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 05:55:44PM +0800, David Nelson wrote:
> >I'm just giving you a heads-up because I was contacted by�Jason Warner of
> >Canonical ([1]jason.war...@canonical.com�and�jasoncwarner on Freenode)
> 
> And because of this you spam this list with a unsolicited job offer?
> 
> Grüße/Regards,

Personally I think it would be great if they can attract some friendly
face already active on this list/community, so I think putting this
offer out on the list where the LibO devs hang out is perfectly
acceptable.

Noel

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Re: [Libreoffice] Canonical has a vacancy for a LibO specialist software engineer

[Caolán McNamara]

On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 11:23 +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote: 
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 05:55:44PM +0800, David Nelson wrote:
> >I'm just giving you a heads-up because I was contacted by�Jason Warner of
> >Canonical ([1]jason.war...@canonical.com�and�jasoncwarner on Freenode)
> 
> And because of this you spam this list with a unsolicited job offer?

FWIW I reckon its fairly on-topic. It is a LibreOffice related job
offer, and I'm happy to see Canonical weigh in.

C. 

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Re: [Libreoffice] Canonical has a vacancy for a LibO specialist software engineer

[Rene Engelhard]

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 06:49:33PM +0800, David Nelson wrote:
> Well, I did not think of it as *spamming* as such, because it concerns

It's a unsolicited commercial mail. And bulk because it's on a ml which gets to
many people. That perfectly fits the definition of spam.

Grüße/Regards,

René
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Re: [Libreoffice] Canonical has a vacancy for a LibO specialist software engineer

[David Nelson]

Hi Rene, :-)

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 18:23, Rene Engelhard  wrote:
>
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 05:55:44PM +0800, David Nelson wrote:
> >    I'm just giving you a heads-up because I was contacted by Jason Warner of
> >    Canonical ([1]jason.war...@canonical.com and jasoncwarner on Freenode)
>
> And because of this you spam this list with a unsolicited job offer?

Well, I did not think of it as *spamming* as such, because it concerns
a vacancy of specific interest to LibO developers, with one of the
projects valued supporters and partners, and I am *certain* there are
guys out there who will be interested in the idea. :-)

David Nelson
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Re: [Libreoffice] Canonical has a vacancy for a LibO specialist software engineer

[Rene Engelhard]

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 05:55:44PM +0800, David Nelson wrote:
>I'm just giving you a heads-up because I was contacted by�Jason Warner of
>Canonical ([1]jason.war...@canonical.com�and�jasoncwarner on Freenode)

And because of this you spam this list with a unsolicited job offer?

Grüße/Regards,

René
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[Libreoffice] Canonical has a vacancy for a LibO specialist software engineer

[David Nelson]

Hello developers,
I'm just giving you a heads-up because I was contacted by Jason Warner of
Canonical (jason.war...@canonical.com and jasoncwarner on Freenode) about
the vacancy below. I'm sure there is one of you guys that is perfect for the
job. If you're interested, there is a link to the application form at the
bottom, or else contact Jason directly (please do *not* mail me about
this).

All the best, and good luck! :-)

David Nelson

Software Engineer

*Job Location:* Home based with broadband.

*Job Summary: *We are seeking a Software Engineer to play a key development
and integration role on the Ubuntu Desktop Team - one of the technical teams
that makes up the Ubuntu Platform Team. As part of the core Ubuntu team, the
Engineer will work on a broad range of technical tasks: including feature
planning, packaging, integration,bug-fixing and maintenance. The successful
candidate will ensure a first class user experience by envisioning new
desktop integration features for office productivity, packaging, desktop
integration, bug fixing and development of office productivity related
software such as Open Office. Strong communication and relationship skills
are as important as superb technical skills in this role, as the successful
candidate will be responsible for process communication and coordination
between Ubuntu and external partners, as well as ensuring commonality of
purpose and technical approach. This job involves international travel
several times a year, usually for one week.

*Reports To: *Ubuntu Desktop Team Manager
Key responsibilities and accountabilities:

   - Envision new features and integration points to make Ubuntu a great
   desktop for users with office productivity tasks.
   - Take on primary maintenance of some components of the Ubuntu Desktop,
   covering office productivity related areas, especially Open Office.
   - Engage in bug-fixing work across a wide variety of components of the
   Ubuntu platform.
   - Assist in pre-release testing of Ubuntu, taking personal ownership of
   problems and driving them to solutions.
   - Collaborate with other teams in the Ubuntu community and with upstream
   developers where appropriate, to make sure that Ubuntu includes the very
   best in free software and that our goals are taken into account by other
   projects.
   - When necessary, respond to and work to resolve issues raised by end
   users and commercial support customers.

Required skills and experience:

   - Familiarity with open source development tools and methodology,
   especially those in common use for Ubuntu and Debian package maintenance.
   - Strong understanding of the make-up of a modern GNU/Linux distribution.
   - Strong interests and experience with a variety of the software that
   makes up the core of Ubuntu.
   - Strong interests and experience with Open Office and/or other Open
   Source office productivity software packages.
   - Capacity to learn quickly about new systems and techniques.
   - Hands-on experience with concepts of agile development and lean
   software engineering.
   - Deep understanding of, and extensive use of, desktop operating systems;
   especially the GNOME and KDE platforms.
   - Excellent English communications skills.
   - Excellent online communications skills, including IRC, email, and other
   online venues.
   - Ability to be productive in a globally distributed team through
   self-discipline and self-motivation, delivering according to a schedule.
   - Ability to collaborate in real time with team members in Eastern US and
   European time zones.

*Apply for this
job
*
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