Re: [Libreoffice] Oracle wordbook in LibO

2011-01-08 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Sat, Jan 08, 2011 at 12:43:43AM +0100, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
 Petr Mladek wrote:
  Andrea Pescetti píše v Pá 07. 01. 2011 v 02:29 +0100:
   - It removes all the application names: Writer, Calc, Impress...
  
  Hmm, I am not sure if these are language independent names. Sophie, what
  do you think?
 
 As far as I know, the application names are typically untranslated and I
 don't know of any localization using translated names. I can say for
 sure that they were never translated in the Italian version, in 1.x, 2.x
 or 3.x. But it's good to check with Sophie, French tend to translate
 much more technical terms than Italian do!

For language not written in Latin script they are likely to get
transliterated, we certainly do that in Arabic.

Regards,
 Khaled

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Re: [Libreoffice] Oracle wordbook in LibO

2011-01-07 Thread Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai
Ok, I will add.

KAMI

2011-01-07 14:01 keltezéssel, Petr Mladek írta:
 Andrea Pescetti píše v Pá 07. 01. 2011 v 02:29 +0100:
 On 06/01/2011 Petr Mladek wrote:
 Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai píše v Čt 06. 01. 2011 v 15:40 +0100:
 May we include vendor specific sfuffs from oracle.dic?
 http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/extras/commit/?h=libreoffice-3-3id=7fbdfd0a0d2af30af92839ebf8bcf97c465519e8
 Looks good to me.
 I might have lost track of changes due to the multiple patches here and
 in https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31798, but there are a
 few things that make little sense to me:
 - This would remove OpenOffice.org and everything that used to be in
   oracle.dic
 Great catch. I guess that KAMI have just missed it. It is a language
 independent product name and it is perfectly fine to have it in the
 technical.dic.

 - ...but it adds the word MySQL
 MySQL looks fine.

 - It adds the whole family tree of Ubuntu
 - ...but it doesn't add GNU/Linux or just GNU and Linux, and it
   removes Linux instead
 GNU and Linux sounds reasonable

 - It removes Oracle and it adds Novell, but it ignores all the
   companies listed in http://www.documentfoundation.org/supporters/
 Oracle is fine as well.

 - It removes all the application names: Writer, Calc, Impress...
 Hmm, I am not sure if these are language independent names. Sophie, what
 do you think?

 KAMI, could you please take care of this discussion and add the
 requested words to git?


 Are these choices deliberate?
 We wanted to remove oracle.dic because it include many generic English
 words, e.g. Time, Tools, Use, Value, Work.
 http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/extras/commit/?h=libreoffice-3-3id=7fbdfd0a0d2af30af92839ebf8bcf97c46551
 is just the first draft. Such dictionaries are always work in progress.
 Feel free to suggest list of more missing words.


 Best Regards,
 Petr




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Re: [Libreoffice] Oracle wordbook in LibO

2011-01-06 Thread Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai


On 01/05/2011 06:28 PM, Petr Mladek wrote:
 Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai píše v St 05. 01. 2011 v 17:39 +0100:
 Hi!

 2011-01-05 17:01 keltezéssel, Petr Mladek írta: 
 Ah, we use Novell.dic in our build. It includes just
 language-independent names of Novell products, so it should not cause
 any harm to anyone. I attached different patches to the issue. KAMI,
 could you please review them?
 Can we introduce here some other technical, and distibution related
 files here, not just Novell related, words from Ubuntu, Debian, etc. I
 think we should have only one extra dic file, or is is a performance
 killer thing?
 Great idea! I would call it technical.dic or so.

 KAMI, could you please cook up something? 


 Best Regards,
 Petr

May we include vendor specific sfuffs from oracle.dic?
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/extras/commit/?h=libreoffice-3-3id=7fbdfd0a0d2af30af92839ebf8bcf97c465519e8

KAMI



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Re: [Libreoffice] Oracle wordbook in LibO

2011-01-06 Thread Petr Mladek
Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai píše v Čt 06. 01. 2011 v 15:40 +0100:
 
 On 01/05/2011 06:28 PM, Petr Mladek wrote:
  Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai píše v St 05. 01. 2011 v 17:39 +0100:
  Hi!
 
  2011-01-05 17:01 keltezéssel, Petr Mladek írta: 
  Ah, we use Novell.dic in our build. It includes just
  language-independent names of Novell products, so it should not cause
  any harm to anyone. I attached different patches to the issue. KAMI,
  could you please review them?
  Can we introduce here some other technical, and distibution related
  files here, not just Novell related, words from Ubuntu, Debian, etc. I
  think we should have only one extra dic file, or is is a performance
  killer thing?
  Great idea! I would call it technical.dic or so.
 
  KAMI, could you please cook up something? 
 
 
  Best Regards,
  Petr
 
 May we include vendor specific sfuffs from oracle.dic?
 http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/extras/commit/?h=libreoffice-3-3id=7fbdfd0a0d2af30af92839ebf8bcf97c465519e8

Looks good to me.

Best Regards,
Petr



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Re: [Libreoffice] Oracle wordbook in LibO

2011-01-06 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 06/01/2011 Petr Mladek wrote:
 Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai píše v Čt 06. 01. 2011 v 15:40 +0100:
  May we include vendor specific sfuffs from oracle.dic?
  http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/extras/commit/?h=libreoffice-3-3id=7fbdfd0a0d2af30af92839ebf8bcf97c465519e8
 
 Looks good to me.

I might have lost track of changes due to the multiple patches here and
in https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31798, but there are a
few things that make little sense to me:
- This would remove OpenOffice.org and everything that used to be in
  oracle.dic
- ...but it adds the word MySQL
- It adds the whole family tree of Ubuntu
- ...but it doesn't add GNU/Linux or just GNU and Linux, and it
  removes Linux instead
- It removes Oracle and it adds Novell, but it ignores all the
  companies listed in http://www.documentfoundation.org/supporters/
- It removes all the application names: Writer, Calc, Impress...

Are these choices deliberate?

Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: [Libreoffice] Oracle wordbook in LibO

2011-01-05 Thread Petr Mladek
Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai píše v Pá 31. 12. 2010 v 10:17 +0100:
 Hi All,
 
 Patches attached to issue, please review.

Ah, we use Novell.dic in our build. It includes just
language-independent names of Novell products, so it should not cause
any harm to anyone. I attached different patches to the issue. KAMI,
could you please review them?

 I also found that:
 
 * We don't provide standard.dic as user dictionary. Is this intentional?

It looks fine. It is empty by default. It is automatically created when
user add his own words in the spellcheck dialog.

 * We provide language dependent *.dic files in binary format, however
 standard.dic is a plain text file.

Heh, I wonder how the binary dictionaries were created. I guess that it
is an older format that comes from the old StarOffice times. I suggest
to create any new dictionary in the text format.


Best Regards,
Petr

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Re: [Libreoffice] Oracle wordbook in LibO

2011-01-05 Thread Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai
Hi!

2011-01-05 17:01 keltezéssel, Petr Mladek írta:
 Ah, we use Novell.dic in our build. It includes just
 language-independent names of Novell products, so it should not cause
 any harm to anyone. I attached different patches to the issue. KAMI,
 could you please review them?
Can we introduce here some other technical, and distibution related
files here, not just Novell related, words from Ubuntu, Debian, etc. I
think we should have only one extra dic file, or is is a performance
killer thing?
 I also found that:

 * We don't provide standard.dic as user dictionary. Is this intentional?
 It looks fine. It is empty by default. It is automatically created when
 user add his own words in the spellcheck dialog.

Ok :oD
 * We provide language dependent *.dic files in binary format, however
 standard.dic is a plain text file.
 Heh, I wonder how the binary dictionaries were created. I guess that it
 is an older format that comes from the old StarOffice times. I suggest
 to create any new dictionary in the text format.
We should ask it on L10N list. Maybe update would be nice.

 Best Regards,
 Petr


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Re: [Libreoffice] Oracle wordbook in LibO

2011-01-05 Thread Petr Mladek
Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai píše v St 05. 01. 2011 v 17:39 +0100:
 Hi!
 
 2011-01-05 17:01 keltezéssel, Petr Mladek írta: 
  Ah, we use Novell.dic in our build. It includes just
  language-independent names of Novell products, so it should not cause
  any harm to anyone. I attached different patches to the issue. KAMI,
  could you please review them?
 Can we introduce here some other technical, and distibution related
 files here, not just Novell related, words from Ubuntu, Debian, etc. I
 think we should have only one extra dic file, or is is a performance
 killer thing?

Great idea! I would call it technical.dic or so.

KAMI, could you please cook up something? 


Best Regards,
Petr

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Re: [Libreoffice] Oracle wordbook in LibO

2010-12-31 Thread Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai
Hi All,

Patches attached to issue, please review.

I also found that:

* We don't provide standard.dic as user dictionary. Is this intentional?
* We provide language dependent *.dic files in binary format, however
standard.dic is a plain text file.

KAMI

2010-12-31 07:51 keltezéssel, Sophie Gautier írta:
 Hi all,

 Could you have a look at this issue. I think it could be an easy hack,
 but I'm not qualified to decide about it :).
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31798

 Thanks in advance
 Kind regards
 Sophie




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[Libreoffice] Oracle wordbook in LibO

2010-12-30 Thread Sophie Gautier

Hi all,

Could you have a look at this issue. I think it could be an easy hack, 
but I'm not qualified to decide about it :).

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31798

Thanks in advance
Kind regards
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