Re: [tdf-discuss] Adding the browser to Libreoffice
Hi, +1 to Tim below. IMHO if we're on the topic of adding another program to LibreOffice - Project Management (PM) should be considered over adding yet another open source Browser. I'm reasonably certain there are not enough resources at the moment to do this - at least not without partnering/forking one of the existing open source PM projects. Which featureset would you like to see in such an extension ? Wouldn't it be easier to just pick some existing solution (eg. we're using Redmine) instead ? From what I see in the industry (mid- and large-size enterprises), the big trend is going to web-based applications. Several of our customers even dropped their local MUA's (in that case: Outlook) completely after we've replaced their Exchange by Zimbra. So, it seems that business customers tend to prefer web applications (possibly with customer-specific integrations to 3rdparty systems) over local applications. In general, I'd point out two argumentation lines against adding fundamentally new functionalily of such kind: a) featureset and choice Different users have different requirements (the ugliest of all is ERP world, where everybody seems to have its own or at least heavily cutomized system). Therefore we should give people the choice and instead add some optional integrations via generic interfaces. (eg. people that like to use lo as a dashboard, they could use some extension that display interesting informations like ticket lists, timelines, etc from an prjm-system, or a list of new mails in some kind of lo-integrated xbiff counterpart) b) economical Developing such new functionality from start up would essentially duplicate existing applications, require a lot of resources and expertise, which is most likely is not availble to lo project. By the way: in case you're going to work on some integration to systems like redmine, plone, openerp, zimbra, just let me know, I'd like to join in. cu -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind regards Enrico Weigelt VNC - Virtual Network Consult GmbH Head Of Development Pariser Platz 4a, D-10117 Berlin Tel.: +49 (30) 3464615-20 Fax: +49 (30) 3464615-59 enrico.weig...@vnc.biz; www.vnc.de ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [tdf-discuss] Adding the browser to Libreoffice
I can see the point behind working with one or more of the open source browsers to better integrate libreoffice with the browser. I can even see the point of offering that browser as part of the download, but I am not convinced that writing yet another open source browser is a good idea. It seems a waste of developer resources and it would be unlikely that enough good developers could be attracted to do the work in order to compete with the established projects. I use coffee every day in the office but I don't expect libreoffice to supply me with it :-) Just my 2p for what its worth I am not a libreoffice developer. Thanks Tim On 8 November 2012 21:04, Randolph D. rdohm...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, after some talks with some board members, the request rised to include more members and developers in the idea of adding a browser to Libreoffice. We know this needs time and work, but would not be impossible to add it to the installer and create a place to be for it, and see, how the community reacts to it and requests more interaction. This security orientated webkit browser would be a good codebasis for that: http://sourceforge.net/projects/dooble/ Any pro or cons from anyone? No person in the office works today without the internet, the consequence is, an office suite needs or could provide an open source browser. Anyone interested to test or join the idea or recommendations for the steps to plan? Regards Randolph -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Course View Towers, Plot 21 Yusuf Lule Road, Kampala T +256 (0) 312 314 418 M +256 (0) 752 963 325 www.weberpafrica.com @TimSchofield2 ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [tdf-discuss] Adding the browser to Libreoffice
+1 to Tim below. IMHO if we're on the topic of adding another program to LibreOffice - Project Management (PM) should be considered over adding yet another open source Browser. I'm reasonably certain there are not enough resources at the moment to do this - at least not without partnering/forking one of the existing open source PM projects. ... I can see the point behind working with one or more of the open source browsers to better integrate libreoffice with the browser. I can even see the point of offering that browser as part of the download, but I am not convinced that writing yet another open source browser is a good idea. It seems a waste of developer resources and it would be unlikely that enough good developers could be attracted to do the work in order to compete with the established projects. ... ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [tdf-discuss] Adding the browser to Libreoffice
I'm a common and simple user, no more, no less, so perhaps there's a part of the picture i'm missing, but there are some questions that arise: - What would be the befenit of adding a browser to the current office suite ? - What different features would keep you from reinventing the wheel / allow you to do a better job than other communities that are dedicated to mantaining and creating a browser ? - Is this really the best place to put dev effort at the moment for libreoffice ? My implicit response is that I don't like the idea, and I think the community will react negatively to it. To me, it is a bit far fetched. Regards Claudio On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Randolph D. rdohm...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, after some talks with some board members, the request rised to include more members and developers in the idea of adding a browser to Libreoffice. We know this needs time and work, but would not be impossible to add it to the installer and create a place to be for it, and see, how the community reacts to it and requests more interaction. This security orientated webkit browser would be a good codebasis for that: http://sourceforge.net/projects/dooble/ Any pro or cons from anyone? No person in the office works today without the internet, the consequence is, an office suite needs or could provide an open source browser. Anyone interested to test or join the idea or recommendations for the steps to plan? Regards Randolph -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
