Re: Drop support for Java 5?
On Tue, 2012-10-02 at 15:48 +0200, d.ostrov...@idaia.de wrote: > done: > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/LibreOffice4#Discontinued_support_for_obsolete_platforms_and_libraries Sounds like we need more quantification of the cost / benefit around that first I guess :-) Regards, Michael. -- michael.me...@suse.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Drop support for Java 5?
On Tue, 2012-10-02 at 15:57 +0200, Noel Grandin wrote: > At some point in time, we have to balance the amount of development > resources we have against the number of people running a particular > platform. True - but is there any real, concrete win to dropping it - beyond not having to build a single external module, that we already build ? ;-) Clearly we need a cost/benefit on both sides. MacOS PPC is around 0.7% of total downloads, small but not insignificant - clearly many tens-of-thousands of people are using it. ATB, Michael. -- michael.me...@suse.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Drop support for Java 5?
On 02/10/12 15:48, d.ostrov...@idaia.de wrote: > Hi Michael, > > Zitat von Michael Meeks : > >> >> On Tue, 2012-10-02 at 14:53 +0200, Michael Stahl wrote: > Mac OSX 10.4 only comes with 1.5. what about to drop support for Mac OS X 10.4 then? >>> >>> that is on the LO4 todo list :) what i meant to say is that i had added this to the below wiki page some months ago... >> Worth adding to the wiki page so we don't forget I imagine: >> >> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/LibreOffice4 >> > done: > > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/LibreOffice4#Discontinued_support_for_obsolete_platforms_and_libraries ...but apparently both of you couldn't find it on there so i guess it's and improvement that the topic now has its own header :) ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Drop support for Java 5?
On 2012-10-02 15:53, Christian Lohmaier wrote: Hi David, *, On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 2:37 PM, wrote: Zitat von Christian Lohmaier : On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:27 PM, wrote: Mac OSX 10.4 only comes with 1.5. what about to drop support for Mac OS X 10.4 then? Needless to say that I won't be happy abount it. As dropping 10.4 won't bring any benefits in terms of Mac OSX features to be used, this almost automatically means also dropping 10.5, and that in turn means dropping PPC support. At some point in time, we have to balance the amount of development resources we have against the number of people running a particular platform. People on that platform, are, of course, welcome to maintain a fork that supports that platform. Git makes this particularly easy. Disclaimer: http://www.peralex.com/disclaimer.html ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Drop support for Java 5?
Hi, On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 01:27:21PM +0200, d.ostrov...@idaia.de wrote: > Hi, [...] > Java 7 is today the current version, Java 6 is the old one and Java > 5 is the ancient one. Does it still make sense to support it in LO > 3.7 or even in LO 4.0? > > Would it be an option to drop Java 1.5 support (upgrading configure.in and > all other places) and as the consequence drop stax module? There's platforms who don't have a JDK (yet) available and *still* need to use gcj-jdk. Which only can do 1.5.: http://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/ (But that one will get openjdk when wheezy is installed on the Debian builds - so I am told...) Regards, Rene ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Drop support for Java 5?
Hi David, *, On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 2:37 PM, wrote: > Zitat von Christian Lohmaier : >> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:27 PM, wrote: >> >> Mac OSX 10.4 only comes with 1.5. > > what about to drop support for Mac OS X 10.4 then? Needless to say that I won't be happy abount it. As dropping 10.4 won't bring any benefits in terms of Mac OSX features to be used, this almost automatically means also dropping 10.5, and that in turn means dropping PPC support. ciao Christian ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Drop support for Java 5?
Hi Michael, Zitat von Michael Meeks : On Tue, 2012-10-02 at 14:53 +0200, Michael Stahl wrote: >> Mac OSX 10.4 only comes with 1.5. > > what about to drop support for Mac OS X 10.4 then? that is on the LO4 todo list :) Worth adding to the wiki page so we don't forget I imagine: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/LibreOffice4 done: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/LibreOffice4#Discontinued_support_for_obsolete_platforms_and_libraries Ciao David ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Drop support for Java 5?
On Tue, 2012-10-02 at 14:53 +0200, Michael Stahl wrote: > >> Mac OSX 10.4 only comes with 1.5. > > > > what about to drop support for Mac OS X 10.4 then? > > that is on the LO4 todo list :) Worth adding to the wiki page so we don't forget I imagine: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/LibreOffice4 ATB, Michael. -- michael.me...@suse.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Drop support for Java 5?
On 02/10/12 14:37, d.ostrov...@idaia.de wrote: > Hi Christian, > > Zitat von Christian Lohmaier : > >> Hi David, *, >> >> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:27 PM, wrote: >>> >>> Java 7 is today the current version, Java 6 is the old one and Java 5 is the >>> ancient one. Does it still make sense to support it in LO 3.7 or even in LO >>> 4.0? >> >> Mac OSX 10.4 only comes with 1.5. > > what about to drop support for Mac OS X 10.4 then? that is on the LO4 todo list :) it's a bit annoying for users to bump platform requirements in a minor release, so LO4 sounds like the better target, and isn't that far off. doesn't make sense to support an OS release that the OS vendor hasn't been supporting for years. same goes for Windows 2000. iirc JRE5 is also no longer supported by Oracle. a more difficult question is, should we require OS X 10.6 and thereby drop support for OS X on PPC altogether? ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Drop support for Java 5?
Hi Christian, Zitat von Christian Lohmaier : Hi David, *, On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:27 PM, wrote: Java 7 is today the current version, Java 6 is the old one and Java 5 is the ancient one. Does it still make sense to support it in LO 3.7 or even in LO 4.0? Mac OSX 10.4 only comes with 1.5. what about to drop support for Mac OS X 10.4 then? Ciao David ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Drop support for Java 5?
Hi David, *, On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:27 PM, wrote: > > Java 7 is today the current version, Java 6 is the old one and Java 5 is the > ancient one. Does it still make sense to support it in LO 3.7 or even in LO > 4.0? Mac OSX 10.4 only comes with 1.5. ciao Christian ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Drop support for Java 5?
Hi, during the work on gbuildification of stax module found this condition: .IF "$(JAVANUMVER:s/.//)" >= "00010006" @echo "Your java version already contains StAX" In fact, Sun Java StAX XML Processor ships as part of Sun Java Standard Edition 6 runtime [1]. Java 7 is today the current version, Java 6 is the old one and Java 5 is the ancient one. Does it still make sense to support it in LO 3.7 or even in LO 4.0? Would it be an option to drop Java 1.5 support (upgrading configure.in and all other places) and as the consequence drop stax module? 1. http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=173 Regards David ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
