Re: Aw: Re: Forced Updates? WTF?
Hi Christoph, Christoph Schäfer wrote: > [LibreOffice auto-updated from 6.3 to 6.4 on Windows 10] > > I originally installed LO via the MSI installers from the TDF site, > and I have no other "helpful software" regarding updates on my > computers. > Then it's not possible the source of the problem is LibreOffice. There's simply no code that would download a version & force an update (without quite a bit of user interaction), in the versions distributed from libreoffice.org. There's a theoretical possibility, if instead you've installed the Vanilla version from the Windows Store - that one got upgraded from 6.3 to 6.4, since 6.3 is now end of life. But your description would not match that either, as that package does not ask for a reboot. If you've further input (screenshots, exact versions, MSIs you've used), can we please move this conversation to the QA list (in Cc), as it's much better placed there (and if it's a real problem, we'd need a bugreport filed anyway). All the best, -- Thorsten signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Aw: Re: Forced Updates? WTF?
On 6/9/2020 3:18 PM, Christoph Schäfer wrote: Hi, It's true, I don't know what happened. I originally installed LO via the MSI installers from the TDF site, and I have no other "helpful software" regarding updates on my computers. Oh, wait, on my laptop I have installed a Windows update blocker, and yet the LO update happened in the background. At least on the laptop the "Recently Used" list wasn't lost, but the icon set reverted to the default setting. On my PC even the list was lost, the icon set was also changed, and the document restauration didn't work after the PC was forced to reboot, so I lost some work. If TDF is responsible for this (and I added a qualifier to my original post), I actually consider this to be rude behaviour. I have LO installed for years on each and every one of my computer, a couple of Windows 7 still, this laptop I am typing running Windows 8.1, 3 PCs running Windows 10 as well as a MacBook Pro (High Sierra only though) and two machines running Linux Mint 19.1. Not one of them is "updating in the background", I usually do this on the Windows machines once a month via Ninite (though most of the initial install have been through what you are likely referring to as TDF), I have to download a newer version manually on the Mac (from TDF) and the only machines that semi-automatically offer updates for LO are those two Linux boxes, though I still have to select and confirm the update each and every time. And at no time has any of those updates, on any of the systems above, messed with previous system settings, at least not in a way that I would have noticed... Ralf -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Forced Updates? WTF?
Ten computers, have not seen this behavior even though I want it on a few of them. Did not even know LO could do it. Sent from BlueMail On Jun 9, 2020, 6:49 PM, at 6:49 PM, "Christoph Schäfer" wrote: > > >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 09. Juni 2020 um 09:36 Uhr >> Von: "Mike Kaganski" >> An: "Christoph Schäfer" , >LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org >> Betreff: Re: Forced Updates? WTF? >> >> On 09.06.2020 3:22, Christoph Schäfer wrote: >> > I never thought this was possible with LO, but it looks like the >developers have chosen to override my default settings (notification, >but no automatic updates). Yet, an update from 6.3 to 6.4 (Windows 10) >has been enforced on me, which also led to data loss, as well as losing >the "Recently Used" entries in the File dialogue. >> > >> > >> > If this wasn't an attempt by Microsoft to damage LO (I'm on Windows >10), I have to ask: What the hell were you thinking? >> > >> > >> > This is unacceptable. >> >> ... so re-wording all that, "I don't know what had happened; and I >don't >> tell you all the details (like how had I installed LO in the first >place >> - e.g. from MSI taken from TDF site, or from Windows Store); and >which >> "helpful software" might be installed on my system helping to keep >> software "up-to-date"; and I even don't know if that was some >deliberate >> decision, or a bug, - but I choose to be rude from start." >> >> I doubt it being acceptable. >> >> -- > >Hi, > >It's true, I don't know what happened. I originally installed LO via >the MSI installers from the TDF site, and I have no other "helpful >software" regarding updates on my computers. Oh, wait, on my laptop I >have installed a Windows update blocker, and yet the LO update happened >in the background. At least on the laptop the "Recently Used" list >wasn't lost, but the icon set reverted to the default setting. On my PC >even the list was lost, the icon set was also changed, and the document >restauration didn't work after the PC was forced to reboot, so I lost >some work. > >If TDF is responsible for this (and I added a qualifier to my original >post), I actually consider this to be rude behaviour. > >Christoph > > >___ >LibreOffice mailing list >LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org >https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Aw: Re: Forced Updates? WTF?
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 09. Juni 2020 um 09:36 Uhr > Von: "Mike Kaganski" > An: "Christoph Schäfer" , > LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org > Betreff: Re: Forced Updates? WTF? > > On 09.06.2020 3:22, Christoph Schäfer wrote: > > I never thought this was possible with LO, but it looks like the developers > > have chosen to override my default settings (notification, but no automatic > > updates). Yet, an update from 6.3 to 6.4 (Windows 10) has been enforced on > > me, which also led to data loss, as well as losing the "Recently Used" > > entries in the File dialogue. > > > > > > If this wasn't an attempt by Microsoft to damage LO (I'm on Windows 10), I > > have to ask: What the hell were you thinking? > > > > > > This is unacceptable. > > ... so re-wording all that, "I don't know what had happened; and I don't > tell you all the details (like how had I installed LO in the first place > - e.g. from MSI taken from TDF site, or from Windows Store); and which > "helpful software" might be installed on my system helping to keep > software "up-to-date"; and I even don't know if that was some deliberate > decision, or a bug, - but I choose to be rude from start." > > I doubt it being acceptable. > > -- Hi, It's true, I don't know what happened. I originally installed LO via the MSI installers from the TDF site, and I have no other "helpful software" regarding updates on my computers. Oh, wait, on my laptop I have installed a Windows update blocker, and yet the LO update happened in the background. At least on the laptop the "Recently Used" list wasn't lost, but the icon set reverted to the default setting. On my PC even the list was lost, the icon set was also changed, and the document restauration didn't work after the PC was forced to reboot, so I lost some work. If TDF is responsible for this (and I added a qualifier to my original post), I actually consider this to be rude behaviour. Christoph ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Forced Updates? WTF?
On 09.06.2020 3:22, Christoph Schäfer wrote: > I never thought this was possible with LO, but it looks like the developers > have chosen to override my default settings (notification, but no automatic > updates). Yet, an update from 6.3 to 6.4 (Windows 10) has been enforced on > me, which also led to data loss, as well as losing the "Recently Used" > entries in the File dialogue. > > > If this wasn't an attempt by Microsoft to damage LO (I'm on Windows 10), I > have to ask: What the hell were you thinking? > > > This is unacceptable. ... so re-wording all that, "I don't know what had happened; and I don't tell you all the details (like how had I installed LO in the first place - e.g. from MSI taken from TDF site, or from Windows Store); and which "helpful software" might be installed on my system helping to keep software "up-to-date"; and I even don't know if that was some deliberate decision, or a bug, - but I choose to be rude from start." I doubt it being acceptable. -- Best regards, Mike Kaganski pEpkey.asc Description: application/pgp-keys ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Forced Updates? WTF?
Hi, I never thought this was possible with LO, but it looks like the developers have chosen to override my default settings (notification, but no automatic updates). Yet, an update from 6.3 to 6.4 (Windows 10) has been enforced on me, which also led to data loss, as well as losing the "Recently Used" entries in the File dialogue. If this wasn't an attempt by Microsoft to damage LO (I'm on Windows 10), I have to ask: What the hell were you thinking? This is unacceptable. Christoph ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice