Re: GSoC IDEA- AUTOMATED ERROR CHECKING IN CALC

2015-03-26 Thread rajat vijay
Dear MARKUS ,
Please let me know the format of the proposal to be submitted as the 27
march is the last date.
The topic is AUTOMATED ERROR CHECKING IN CALC FOR GSoC 2K15.

I am working on the easy hack Currency Dropdown Menu, you can also
confirm my work from there.

I have already mailed you my ideas including the ones of my own.

Yours Sincerely
RAJAT VIJAY


On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 10:16 PM, rajat vijay rajatvij...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sir,
 Here are two more errors that i would like to implement--
  Calculation error on numbers formatted as text or preceded by an
 apostrophe
  Warning for a formulas inconsistent with other formulas in the region

 Your guidance with code pointers on implementing the above these will be a
 great help !!!

 Yours sincerely
 RAJAT VIIJAY

 On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 9:37 PM, rajat vijay rajatvij...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Sir,
 Here is a list of my ideas:
  In the data validation feature, add two new types in the Allow list
 namely
 1- Customized. This feature will will allow the user to perform data
 validation with reference to formulas.
 2- Units. This feature will let the user associate an unit with a
 particular cell or a range. The Data field will have a list of units
 namely-meter, seconds, and most of the other scientific units.
  Detecting an EMPTY cell in the range for formula, where the user put a
 cell range as an argument.
  Adding different currencies error


 On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Wols Lists antli...@youngman.org.uk
 wrote:

 On 24/03/15 18:25, Markus Mohrhard wrote:
  As Eike mentioned that is not the idea behind this task. The task would
  be to integrate correct currency handling (that you show a
 warning/error
  when you try to sum across different currencies e.g. EURO + DOLLAR).
 For
  this the first requirement is most likely to get the unit feature
 branch
  merged into master (it also requires some more work before merging can
  be considered).

 And to my mind (I worked for a trade association that handled
 calculations in most currencies - from Sterling to Italian and Turkish
 lire, and hyperinflation currencies like Zimbabwe) the idea of automatic
 conversion is actually extremely dangerous.

 Quite often it's an end-user requirement to use x dp (can be a daft
 requirement) or x sf (we used 4sf, the eurozone had a LEGAL obligation
 to use 6 back in the day). And if you're dealing with a Zimbabwe or the
 like, do you really want to use today's exchange rate on yesterday's
 transaction?

 Cheers,
 Wol




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Re: GSoC IDEA- AUTOMATED ERROR CHECKING IN CALC

2015-03-26 Thread rajat vijay
Dear MARKUS,
Sir,
Here is a list of my ideas:
 In the data validation feature, add two new types in the Allow list
namely
1- Customized. This feature will will allow the user to perform data
validation with reference to formulas.
2- Units. This feature will let the user associate an unit with a
particular cell or a range. The Data field will have a list of units
namely-meter, seconds, and most of the other scientific units.
 Detecting an EMPTY cell in the range for formula, where the user put a
cell range as an argument.
 Adding different currencies error


Here are two more errors that i would like to implement--
 Calculation error on numbers formatted as text or preceded by an
apostrophe
 Warning for a formulas inconsistent with other formulas in the region

Your guidance with code pointers on implementing the above these will be a
great help !!!

Yours sincerely
RAJAT VIIJAY

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:14 PM, rajat vijay rajatvij...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear MARKUS ,
 Please let me know the format of the proposal to be submitted as the 27
 march is the last date.
 The topic is AUTOMATED ERROR CHECKING IN CALC FOR GSoC 2K15.

 I am working on the easy hack Currency Dropdown Menu, you can also
 confirm my work from there.

 I have already mailed you my ideas including the ones of my own.

 Yours Sincerely
 RAJAT VIJAY


 On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 10:16 PM, rajat vijay rajatvij...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Sir,
 Here are two more errors that i would like to implement--
  Calculation error on numbers formatted as text or preceded by an
 apostrophe
  Warning for a formulas inconsistent with other formulas in the region

 Your guidance with code pointers on implementing the above these will be
 a great help !!!

 Yours sincerely
 RAJAT VIIJAY

 On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 9:37 PM, rajat vijay rajatvij...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Sir,
 Here is a list of my ideas:
  In the data validation feature, add two new types in the Allow
 list namely
 1- Customized. This feature will will allow the user to perform data
 validation with reference to formulas.
 2- Units. This feature will let the user associate an unit with a
 particular cell or a range. The Data field will have a list of units
 namely-meter, seconds, and most of the other scientific units.
  Detecting an EMPTY cell in the range for formula, where the user put a
 cell range as an argument.
  Adding different currencies error


 On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Wols Lists antli...@youngman.org.uk
 wrote:

 On 24/03/15 18:25, Markus Mohrhard wrote:
  As Eike mentioned that is not the idea behind this task. The task
 would
  be to integrate correct currency handling (that you show a
 warning/error
  when you try to sum across different currencies e.g. EURO + DOLLAR).
 For
  this the first requirement is most likely to get the unit feature
 branch
  merged into master (it also requires some more work before merging can
  be considered).

 And to my mind (I worked for a trade association that handled
 calculations in most currencies - from Sterling to Italian and Turkish
 lire, and hyperinflation currencies like Zimbabwe) the idea of automatic
 conversion is actually extremely dangerous.

 Quite often it's an end-user requirement to use x dp (can be a daft
 requirement) or x sf (we used 4sf, the eurozone had a LEGAL obligation
 to use 6 back in the day). And if you're dealing with a Zimbabwe or the
 like, do you really want to use today's exchange rate on yesterday's
 transaction?

 Cheers,
 Wol





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Re: GSoC IDEA- AUTOMATED ERROR CHECKING IN CALC

2015-03-25 Thread Wols Lists
On 24/03/15 18:25, Markus Mohrhard wrote:
 As Eike mentioned that is not the idea behind this task. The task would
 be to integrate correct currency handling (that you show a warning/error
 when you try to sum across different currencies e.g. EURO + DOLLAR). For
 this the first requirement is most likely to get the unit feature branch
 merged into master (it also requires some more work before merging can
 be considered).

And to my mind (I worked for a trade association that handled
calculations in most currencies - from Sterling to Italian and Turkish
lire, and hyperinflation currencies like Zimbabwe) the idea of automatic
conversion is actually extremely dangerous.

Quite often it's an end-user requirement to use x dp (can be a daft
requirement) or x sf (we used 4sf, the eurozone had a LEGAL obligation
to use 6 back in the day). And if you're dealing with a Zimbabwe or the
like, do you really want to use today's exchange rate on yesterday's
transaction?

Cheers,
Wol
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Re: GSoC IDEA- AUTOMATED ERROR CHECKING IN CALC

2015-03-25 Thread rajat vijay
Sir,
Here is a list of my ideas:
 In the data validation feature, add two new types in the Allow list
namely
1- Customized. This feature will will allow the user to perform data
validation with reference to formulas.
2- Units. This feature will let the user associate an unit with a
particular cell or a range. The Data field will have a list of units
namely-meter, seconds, and most of the other scientific units.
 Detecting an EMPTY cell in the range for formula, where the user put a
cell range as an argument.
 Adding different currencies error

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Wols Lists antli...@youngman.org.uk
wrote:

 On 24/03/15 18:25, Markus Mohrhard wrote:
  As Eike mentioned that is not the idea behind this task. The task would
  be to integrate correct currency handling (that you show a warning/error
  when you try to sum across different currencies e.g. EURO + DOLLAR). For
  this the first requirement is most likely to get the unit feature branch
  merged into master (it also requires some more work before merging can
  be considered).

 And to my mind (I worked for a trade association that handled
 calculations in most currencies - from Sterling to Italian and Turkish
 lire, and hyperinflation currencies like Zimbabwe) the idea of automatic
 conversion is actually extremely dangerous.

 Quite often it's an end-user requirement to use x dp (can be a daft
 requirement) or x sf (we used 4sf, the eurozone had a LEGAL obligation
 to use 6 back in the day). And if you're dealing with a Zimbabwe or the
 like, do you really want to use today's exchange rate on yesterday's
 transaction?

 Cheers,
 Wol

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Re: GSoC IDEA- AUTOMATED ERROR CHECKING IN CALC

2015-03-25 Thread rajat vijay
Sir,
Here are two more errors that i would like to implement--
 Calculation error on numbers formatted as text or preceded by an
apostrophe
 Warning for a formulas inconsistent with other formulas in the region

Your guidance with code pointers on implementing the above these will be a
great help !!!

Yours sincerely
RAJAT VIIJAY

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 9:37 PM, rajat vijay rajatvij...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sir,
 Here is a list of my ideas:
  In the data validation feature, add two new types in the Allow list
 namely
 1- Customized. This feature will will allow the user to perform data
 validation with reference to formulas.
 2- Units. This feature will let the user associate an unit with a
 particular cell or a range. The Data field will have a list of units
 namely-meter, seconds, and most of the other scientific units.
  Detecting an EMPTY cell in the range for formula, where the user put a
 cell range as an argument.
  Adding different currencies error


 On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Wols Lists antli...@youngman.org.uk
 wrote:

 On 24/03/15 18:25, Markus Mohrhard wrote:
  As Eike mentioned that is not the idea behind this task. The task would
  be to integrate correct currency handling (that you show a warning/error
  when you try to sum across different currencies e.g. EURO + DOLLAR). For
  this the first requirement is most likely to get the unit feature branch
  merged into master (it also requires some more work before merging can
  be considered).

 And to my mind (I worked for a trade association that handled
 calculations in most currencies - from Sterling to Italian and Turkish
 lire, and hyperinflation currencies like Zimbabwe) the idea of automatic
 conversion is actually extremely dangerous.

 Quite often it's an end-user requirement to use x dp (can be a daft
 requirement) or x sf (we used 4sf, the eurozone had a LEGAL obligation
 to use 6 back in the day). And if you're dealing with a Zimbabwe or the
 like, do you really want to use today's exchange rate on yesterday's
 transaction?

 Cheers,
 Wol



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Re: GSoC IDEA- AUTOMATED ERROR CHECKING IN CALC

2015-03-24 Thread rajat vijay
Dear MARKUS,
Sir,
Just for once let me know the format of the proposal to be submitted for
GSoC 2015 for the topic
AUTOMATED ERROR CHECKING IN CALC
And just give a look at my ideas and my proposal for the same.
Then decide whether or not to allot me this project.
And then I promise to give my 100% to complete this project with the
accuracy desired by you, as I will not be having any of my academic work
from MAY mid when the coding period starts !!!

Anticipating your reply
Yours sincerely

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:53 PM, rajat vijay rajatvij...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear MARKUS,
 Sir, while I am working on the easy hack of libre office --
 I would like to discuss with you about my idea regarding the AUTOMATED
 ERROR CHECKING IN CALC as the deadline for registrations are nearer -
 I would like to add the the automated error checking by
 ADDING DIFFERENT CURRENCIES BY AUTOMATICALLY CONVERTING THEM USING CURRENT
 CONVERSION RATES THROUGH INTERNET AND IF OFFLINE, THE USER HAS AN OPTION TO
 ADD MANUAL CONVERSION RATES OR TO USE THE PREVIOUS ONE
 --your feedback for the idea is expected !

 Sir, I am sending this mail as the deadline is getting nearer and also am
 having my university exams.
 Your help will be appreciated.

 Thanks in advance !

 RAJAT VIJAY
 INDIA

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Re: GSoC IDEA- AUTOMATED ERROR CHECKING IN CALC

2015-03-24 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi rajat,

On Monday, 2015-03-23 21:53:08 +0530, rajat vijay wrote:

 I would like to discuss with you about my idea regarding the AUTOMATED
 ERROR CHECKING IN CALC as the deadline for registrations are nearer -
 I would like to add the the automated error checking by
 ADDING DIFFERENT CURRENCIES BY AUTOMATICALLY CONVERTING THEM USING CURRENT
 CONVERSION RATES THROUGH INTERNET AND IF OFFLINE, THE USER HAS AN OPTION TO
 ADD MANUAL CONVERSION RATES OR TO USE THE PREVIOUS ONE

I doubt that such a currency conversion would be related to automated
error checking. The idea of the extended error-checking is that mixing
currencies (or other unrelated/non-convertible units) of different types
is not allowed, not automatic conversion.

Note also that Calc has a CONVERT() function (unfortunately named
identical but different to the Excel CONVERT() function, which currently
is available as CONVERT_ADD()) that obtains it's conversion factors from
configuration values.

Your idea seems more suitable for an independent extension that obtains
values from somewhere in the net and saves them to the conversion
configuration or provides some currency conversion Add-In function(s),
instead of wiring it into the core code.

  Eike

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Re: GSoC IDEA- AUTOMATED ERROR CHECKING IN CALC

2015-03-24 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Eike Rathke wrote:
 Your idea seems more suitable for an independent extension that obtains
 values from somewhere in the net and saves them to the conversion
 configuration or provides some currency conversion Add-In function(s),
 instead of wiring it into the core code.
 
Which even exists - there's Ted Schlossmacher's GetQuote extension.

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Re: GSoC IDEA- AUTOMATED ERROR CHECKING IN CALC

2015-03-24 Thread rajat vijay
Sir,
I have already started working on an easy hack 82641 Currency drop down
menu !!!
I got your point just one more detail I need,  that only currency unit
checking is enough or we need more errors to be checked for the GSoC 2K15
project.
And finally as mentioned above I will not be able to finish my work on easy
hack by the deadline 27 MAY then, what will be the procedure for my
selection in GSoC 2K15 !!!

Yours sincerely
RAJAT VIJAY

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:55 PM, Markus Mohrhard 
markus.mohrh...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hey,

 On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 3:14 PM, rajat vijay rajatvij...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Dear MARKUS,
 Sir,
 Just for once let me know the format of the proposal to be submitted for
 GSoC 2015 for the topic
 AUTOMATED ERROR CHECKING IN CALC
 And just give a look at my ideas and my proposal for the same.
 Then decide whether or not to allot me this project.
 And then I promise to give my 100% to complete this project with the
 accuracy desired by you, as I will not be having any of my academic work
 from MAY mid when the coding period starts !!!

 Anticipating your reply
 Yours sincerely

 On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:53 PM, rajat vijay rajatvij...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Dear MARKUS,
 Sir, while I am working on the easy hack of libre office --
 I would like to discuss with you about my idea regarding the AUTOMATED
 ERROR CHECKING IN CALC as the deadline for registrations are nearer -
 I would like to add the the automated error checking by
 ADDING DIFFERENT CURRENCIES BY AUTOMATICALLY CONVERTING THEM USING
 CURRENT CONVERSION RATES THROUGH INTERNET AND IF OFFLINE, THE USER HAS AN
 OPTION TO ADD MANUAL CONVERSION RATES OR TO USE THE PREVIOUS ONE


 As Eike mentioned that is not the idea behind this task. The task would be
 to integrate correct currency handling (that you show a warning/error when
 you try to sum across different currencies e.g. EURO + DOLLAR). For this
 the first requirement is most likely to get the unit feature branch merged
 into master (it also requires some more work before merging can be
 considered).

 We are only interested in finding user errors with this GSoC project. So
 you should think about which mistakes a typical user does in his
 spreadsheets that he normally does not or only with a lot of work detects.

 I'm not sure if you have already started working on an Easy Hack otherwise
 I would recommend to start that as soon as possible. While it is not
 necessary to finish the EasyHack before the submission deadline it is hard
 requirement to be selected.

 Regards,
 Markus

 --your feedback for the idea is expected !

 Sir, I am sending this mail as the deadline is getting nearer and also
 am having my university exams.
 Your help will be appreciated.

 Thanks in advance !

 RAJAT VIJAY
 INDIA



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Re: GSoC IDEA- AUTOMATED ERROR CHECKING IN CALC

2015-03-24 Thread Markus Mohrhard
Hey,

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 3:14 PM, rajat vijay rajatvij...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear MARKUS,
 Sir,
 Just for once let me know the format of the proposal to be submitted for
 GSoC 2015 for the topic
 AUTOMATED ERROR CHECKING IN CALC
 And just give a look at my ideas and my proposal for the same.
 Then decide whether or not to allot me this project.
 And then I promise to give my 100% to complete this project with the
 accuracy desired by you, as I will not be having any of my academic work
 from MAY mid when the coding period starts !!!

 Anticipating your reply
 Yours sincerely

 On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:53 PM, rajat vijay rajatvij...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Dear MARKUS,
 Sir, while I am working on the easy hack of libre office --
 I would like to discuss with you about my idea regarding the AUTOMATED
 ERROR CHECKING IN CALC as the deadline for registrations are nearer -
 I would like to add the the automated error checking by
 ADDING DIFFERENT CURRENCIES BY AUTOMATICALLY CONVERTING THEM USING
 CURRENT CONVERSION RATES THROUGH INTERNET AND IF OFFLINE, THE USER HAS AN
 OPTION TO ADD MANUAL CONVERSION RATES OR TO USE THE PREVIOUS ONE


As Eike mentioned that is not the idea behind this task. The task would be
to integrate correct currency handling (that you show a warning/error when
you try to sum across different currencies e.g. EURO + DOLLAR). For this
the first requirement is most likely to get the unit feature branch merged
into master (it also requires some more work before merging can be
considered).

We are only interested in finding user errors with this GSoC project. So
you should think about which mistakes a typical user does in his
spreadsheets that he normally does not or only with a lot of work detects.

I'm not sure if you have already started working on an Easy Hack otherwise
I would recommend to start that as soon as possible. While it is not
necessary to finish the EasyHack before the submission deadline it is hard
requirement to be selected.

Regards,
Markus

--your feedback for the idea is expected !

 Sir, I am sending this mail as the deadline is getting nearer and also am
 having my university exams.
 Your help will be appreciated.

 Thanks in advance !

 RAJAT VIJAY
 INDIA



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GSoC IDEA- AUTOMATED ERROR CHECKING IN CALC

2015-03-23 Thread rajat vijay
Dear MARKUS,
Sir, while I am working on the easy hack of libre office --
I would like to discuss with you about my idea regarding the AUTOMATED
ERROR CHECKING IN CALC as the deadline for registrations are nearer -
I would like to add the the automated error checking by
ADDING DIFFERENT CURRENCIES BY AUTOMATICALLY CONVERTING THEM USING CURRENT
CONVERSION RATES THROUGH INTERNET AND IF OFFLINE, THE USER HAS AN OPTION TO
ADD MANUAL CONVERSION RATES OR TO USE THE PREVIOUS ONE
--your feedback for the idea is expected !

Sir, I am sending this mail as the deadline is getting nearer and also am
having my university exams.
Your help will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance !

RAJAT VIJAY
INDIA
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