Minutes of ESC call: 2014-07-25

2014-07-25 Thread Jan Holesovsky
* Present:
+ Cloph, Bjoern, Lionel, Michael S., Muthu, Kendy, Robinson, Andras,
  Markus, Eike, Michael M., Adam
 
* Pending Action Items:
+ ask UX advise wrt. wrench icons (revert or not ?) (Astron)
+ blog about the sad realities of web plugins (Bjoern)
+ setup some VM's that can be created on-demand (Cloph)
+ in progress
+ open-source newer Synezip tests / speak at the conference (Umesh)
+ Ask for 1-2 more dev-list moderators  re-visit next-week (Michael)
+ contact Michael / the list when students show up (Jan Marek)
+ RC3 respin / RC4 with spell-checking patch (Cloph)
+ update + enable the bibisect on Windows (Cloph)
  
* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 4.2.6 status
+ four open changes on gerrit for libreoffice-4-2-6, rc2 next week
  
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/q/status:open+project:core+branch:libreoffice-4-2-6,n,z
+ tagged, building, can be announced for testing later today
+ pending patches included
+ 4.3.0 RC3 status
+ announced to the public
+ whether https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81511 is a 
showstopper
  path of spellchecking/hyphenation/thesaurus dictionaries is not 
resolved on
  Windows, these functions don't work (fixed on libreoffice-4-3) 
(Andras)
+ potential blocker: not working spell-checking on Windows
+ still time to fix that before the final announce (Cloph)
+ time now, but probably not later :-) (Bjorn)
+ many bugs filed, other things do not look that serious (Bjoern)
+ worth RC4 (Bjoern, Eike)
+ spell-check used a lot (Eike)
AI  + RC4 / re-spin to fix spell-checking (Cloph)
+ only with the spell-checking patch
+ no open changes on gerrit for libreoffice-4-3-0
+ Android Remote
+ will switch to Android Studio (Cloph)
+ 4.3.1 late feature
  + OpenGL context on OSX including 3D models in impress (Markus)
  + some runtime errors, but mostly working now
  + 3D models: major feature
  + 3x cross-affiliation approval when ready
+ all on track (Cloph)
 
* Crashtest update (Markus)
+ 
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/crashtest/82127a86dc1d127a3b6caa8279163aab1ccf119a/
+ new results - complete run
+ fully automated now, only need to announce the new directory and monitor 
the run from time to time
+ allows running this even when Moggi on vacation
+ progress monitor too
+ is the performance data available somewhere? (Bjoern)
+ when Matus is back, we'll have an update (Markus)
+ mergelibs feature was a problem probably (Cloph)
 
* GSOC Update (Cedric)
+ at least 6 students will be at the conference in Bern
+ a student presentation slot has been created:
+ thus students can prepare a 5-6 minute lightning talk on their project

* Certification Committee (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy)
 + waiting until ~September

* Hackfests (Bjoern)
+ Boston Hackfest:
** This Weekend **
+ Help setting up pre-built Amazon VM's much appreciated ...
+ in progress, should be ready for Saturday (Cloph)
+ July 26-27th
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2014/US_Summer_Hackfest
+ QA is happy to recruit programmers for our internal projects,
  but would like to share w/the dev team.
+ hosted by Xamarin (thank you!)
+ Interest in Portland, OR for hosting a future hackfest.
+ Munich hack-fest (Jan-Marek):
http://www.it-muenchen-blog.de/2014/07/bug-squashing-party-2014/
+ will have a BSP come-together; if someone says they're coming
  just show up etc.
   + November 21st-23rd, 2014
   https://wiki.debian.org/BSP/2014/11/de/Munich
   + we should drop by with 2 or 3 developers, if possible
+ Toulouse Hackfest ...
+ Confirmed for Nov. 15-16th
+ more details: 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Toulouse2014
+ Be great to have -really- easy easy hacks for devs (Bjoern)
 
* Bibisecting (Bjoern)
+ would be great to have a Windows continuously updating bibisect repo
+ we have such a proof-of-concept; what is the status? (Bjoern)
+ has it, but used to have slow upload speed (Cloph)
AI  + but that improved now, will update + enable (Cloph)
+ let's try to have every successful build in the repository
 
* QA (Robinson)
+ -39 bugs; 730 unconfirmed
+ some Calc crashers found
   + re: crashing on sort
 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advancedlist_id=447650short_desc=crash%20sortbug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENEDshort_desc_type=allwordssubstrproduct=LibreOffice
+ Also possible crasher if Quickstarter is enabled
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80927
+ other 

Re: Minutes of ESC call: 2014-07-25

2014-07-25 Thread Matúš Kukan
On Fri, 2014-07-25 at 12:24 +0200, Jan Holesovsky wrote:
 * Crashtest update (Markus)
 + is the performance data available somewhere? (Bjoern)
 + when Matus is back, we'll have an update (Markus)
 + mergelibs feature was a problem probably (Cloph)

Performance VM is independent of the crashtest VM although running on the same 
HW I think.
Anyhow, it's just a tinderbox (Linux-x86_64_32-callgrind) running loperf from 
buildbot repo.
Finally, it should also send e-mails when the build fails.
Maybe it's the only tinderbox using --enable-mergelibs which sometimes does not 
work.

Uploaded data:
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/callgrind_report/

Best,
Matus


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[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call: 2014-07-25

2014-07-25 Thread Jan Holesovsky
* Present:
+ Cloph, Bjoern, Lionel, Michael S., Muthu, Kendy, Robinson, Andras,
  Markus, Eike, Michael M., Adam
 
* Pending Action Items:
+ ask UX advise wrt. wrench icons (revert or not ?) (Astron)
+ blog about the sad realities of web plugins (Bjoern)
+ setup some VM's that can be created on-demand (Cloph)
+ in progress
+ open-source newer Synezip tests / speak at the conference (Umesh)
+ Ask for 1-2 more dev-list moderators  re-visit next-week (Michael)
+ contact Michael / the list when students show up (Jan Marek)
+ RC3 respin / RC4 with spell-checking patch (Cloph)
+ update + enable the bibisect on Windows (Cloph)
  
* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 4.2.6 status
+ four open changes on gerrit for libreoffice-4-2-6, rc2 next week
  
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/q/status:open+project:core+branch:libreoffice-4-2-6,n,z
+ tagged, building, can be announced for testing later today
+ pending patches included
+ 4.3.0 RC3 status
+ announced to the public
+ whether https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81511 is a 
showstopper
  path of spellchecking/hyphenation/thesaurus dictionaries is not 
resolved on
  Windows, these functions don't work (fixed on libreoffice-4-3) 
(Andras)
+ potential blocker: not working spell-checking on Windows
+ still time to fix that before the final announce (Cloph)
+ time now, but probably not later :-) (Bjorn)
+ many bugs filed, other things do not look that serious (Bjoern)
+ worth RC4 (Bjoern, Eike)
+ spell-check used a lot (Eike)
AI  + RC4 / re-spin to fix spell-checking (Cloph)
+ only with the spell-checking patch
+ no open changes on gerrit for libreoffice-4-3-0
+ Android Remote
+ will switch to Android Studio (Cloph)
+ 4.3.1 late feature
  + OpenGL context on OSX including 3D models in impress (Markus)
  + some runtime errors, but mostly working now
  + 3D models: major feature
  + 3x cross-affiliation approval when ready
+ all on track (Cloph)
 
* Crashtest update (Markus)
+ 
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/crashtest/82127a86dc1d127a3b6caa8279163aab1ccf119a/
+ new results - complete run
+ fully automated now, only need to announce the new directory and monitor 
the run from time to time
+ allows running this even when Moggi on vacation
+ progress monitor too
+ is the performance data available somewhere? (Bjoern)
+ when Matus is back, we'll have an update (Markus)
+ mergelibs feature was a problem probably (Cloph)
 
* GSOC Update (Cedric)
+ at least 6 students will be at the conference in Bern
+ a student presentation slot has been created:
+ thus students can prepare a 5-6 minute lightning talk on their project

* Certification Committee (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy)
 + waiting until ~September

* Hackfests (Bjoern)
+ Boston Hackfest:
** This Weekend **
+ Help setting up pre-built Amazon VM's much appreciated ...
+ in progress, should be ready for Saturday (Cloph)
+ July 26-27th
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2014/US_Summer_Hackfest
+ QA is happy to recruit programmers for our internal projects,
  but would like to share w/the dev team.
+ hosted by Xamarin (thank you!)
+ Interest in Portland, OR for hosting a future hackfest.
+ Munich hack-fest (Jan-Marek):
http://www.it-muenchen-blog.de/2014/07/bug-squashing-party-2014/
+ will have a BSP come-together; if someone says they're coming
  just show up etc.
   + November 21st-23rd, 2014
   https://wiki.debian.org/BSP/2014/11/de/Munich
   + we should drop by with 2 or 3 developers, if possible
+ Toulouse Hackfest ...
+ Confirmed for Nov. 15-16th
+ more details: 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Toulouse2014
+ Be great to have -really- easy easy hacks for devs (Bjoern)
 
* Bibisecting (Bjoern)
+ would be great to have a Windows continuously updating bibisect repo
+ we have such a proof-of-concept; what is the status? (Bjoern)
+ has it, but used to have slow upload speed (Cloph)
AI  + but that improved now, will update + enable (Cloph)
+ let's try to have every successful build in the repository
 
* QA (Robinson)
+ -39 bugs; 730 unconfirmed
+ some Calc crashers found
   + re: crashing on sort
 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advancedlist_id=447650short_desc=crash%20sortbug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENEDshort_desc_type=allwordssubstrproduct=LibreOffice
+ Also possible crasher if Quickstarter is enabled
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80927
+ other