Re: Minutes of the ESC call 2012-10-04

2012-10-08 Thread Michael Meeks

On Sun, 2012-10-07 at 15:43 +0200, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote:
> I didn't think of one point during the talk: The tags should not be
> too generic. Ideally, for example if they all start with a "SuSE"
> prefix, that's perfect. The idea is that you should not get into the
> way of another distro doing the same thing.

Yes of course; we'd namespace those tags suitably :-)

Thanks !

Michael.

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Re: Minutes of the ESC call 2012-10-04

2012-10-07 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Fri, Oct 05, 2012 at 05:58:02PM +0200, Thorsten Behrens wrote:

> * distro/suse/suse-3.6 branch: input appreciated (Kendy/Michael)

>   + lionel: already >2000 tags, who cares about some more
>   + resolution: check this in, tags and all
>   + clean legacy tags at end of support life if a problem.

I didn't think of one point during the talk: The tags should not be
too generic. Ideally, for example if they all start with a "SuSE"
prefix, that's perfect. The idea is that you should not get into the
way of another distro doing the same thing.

I'd be unhappy with tags such as "libreoffice-3.6.0.2-5", because that
could be the fifth packaging revision of libreoffice 3.6.0.2, for
_any_ distribution.

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Minutes of the ESC call 2012-10-04

2012-10-05 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Attending:  Fridrich, Thorsten, Lionel, David Tardon, Stephan, Markus,
Andras, Joel, Radek, Eric, Eike, Cedric, Björn, Astron,
Michael S, Norbert, Michael M, Kohei, Kendy

* Completed Action Items
+ simplify / improve the QA / debugging page (Michael M)
  
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport#Providing_extra_information_for_the_developers
+ many thanks to Petr for the pretty wrapper wins.
+ issues to look into if we can
+ HH: fdo#44278 picture duplication on save (Cedric)
+ now back-ported to 3.6
+ HH: fdo#47283 - writer undo / change-tracking interaction 
(Michael S)
+ HHL fdo#46100 - calc undo / delete sheet crash (Markus)
+ fdo#54225, fdo#54744 PDF export regressions (Stephan)
+ fdo#53673 - Labels broken with mailmerge (Winfried Donkers)
+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/502/ (Bjoern to review)
+ superseded by patch 629 ibid.
+ change to contract and OSL_TRACE for oob results in OUString::copy 
(Michael)
+ make bytemark windows box do release builds (Fridrich)
+ complete but takes 24 hours
+ gerrit add: private//branches (Norbert)

* Pending Action Items
+ Petr to decide release-schedule / overlap gap issue
+ create a new AmbitiousHacks wiki page, based on GSOC page (Michael M)
+ [in progress] enable automatic help build / sync. on a cron-job 
(Kendy)
+ script written, testing it for deployment
+ issues to look into if we can
+ fdo#34548 - review Michael's patch (Thorsten)
+ fdo#55290 - master doesn't install on windows (dtardon)
+ fdo#55360 - mac specific text issue (Thorsten)

* Release Engineering update (Fridrich)
+ vacation / quality report (deferred - Petr sadly ill)
+ 3.6.2 retrospective
+ released
+ should we enable on-line updates to 3.6.2 ?
+ accidentally skipped / discuss next week.
+ 3.5.7 retrospective
+ rc2 uploading, needed because of crasher docx regression
+ more lenient since 3.5.7 being last scheduled release
* 3.6.3 rc1
+ monday deadline for fixes
+ branch on tuesday - then three reviews
+ tinderboxes on -3-6 over weekend
+ reconsider schedule on monday

* UI / design update (Astron)
+ unchanged
+ no chat last week

* Saxon split-out (DTardon)
+ xslt export filters (java, saxon based)
+ new one, baed on libxslt (written by peter)
+ for possible backward compat, still ship saxon
+ drop saxon from install
+ don't know if anybody needs it - put it into extension
+ where to put the extension ?
+ package on extensions.libro
+ source code outside core repos
+ decision: David to go ahead with this

* conference (Thorsten)
+ in-person ESC meeting 16th October, 17:00 at the venue.
+ topics for an extended agenda appreciated ...
+ your pitch for sanity here :-)

**  PLEASE REGISTER BEFORE OCTOBER 8TH  **

+ http://conference.libreoffice.org/@@register-for-the-conference
+ speakers please just enter "No" for have you paid;
  that is a valid option.

AI: + folks without a hotel - mail thb / sweetshark (for couchsurfing/rooms)

* git submodules / rename (Norbert)
+ code-wise done, features/submodules branch
+ does it work when you go across the migration?
+ testings appreciated!
+ doc writing in progress
+ once doc is done, when to do that?
+ each of the four repos - rename files in all submodules - that
  means, if you have a patch, across the boundaries, you need to
  manipulate the patch
+ proposed submodule migration at the conference.

* bibisect goodness (Norbert)
+ experimented on mac, collected every build on mac, 900 builds,
  resulting repo is 2.1G -> too big
+ collect only once a day
+ collecting the windows ones too
+ 700M - builds are less frequent
+ an advanced QA / user is able to bibisect it down to 50 commits

* sysadmin contract / work ...
AI: + ping Tollef (Bjoern)

* distro/suse/suse-3.6 branch: input appreciated (Kendy/Michael)
+ want to get our product work into public git
+ all patches are upstreamed anyway, but this makes things better for 
all
+ since it's the same code - branch should be small size-wise
+ problem: lots of tags for customer / PTF builds - 20-30 tags per 
release
+ is that ok ? concerned about amount of tags ?
+ normally people don't get the tags (Norbert)