Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] LATE FEATURE: Personas in LibreOffice
Hi Astron, Stefan Knorr (Astron) píše v Čt 24. 01. 2013 v 17:28 +0100: So, this leads me to believe that we're best of just removing the background images feature from 4.0. I believe I've removed this already for RC1: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?h=libreoffice-4-0id=d8e1fed0f6f83d03a5075cfe3c0c6b10a7d4e167 It is still there in master though, so that I can continue on that there at some stage; are you seeing it in the 4.0 RC1 or later builds, please? Again, this is now a feature for after 4.0. Yes - might be good to create a Whiteboard for that, maybe? All the best, Kendy ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] LATE FEATURE: Personas in LibreOffice
Hi Astron, Stefan Knorr (Astron) píše v Čt 24. 01. 2013 v 17:28 +0100: So, this leads me to believe that we're best of just removing the background images feature from 4.0. I believe I've removed this already for RC1: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?h=libreoffice-4-0id=d8e1fed0f6f83d03a5075cfe3c0c6b10a7d4e167 It is still there in master though, so that I can continue on that there at some stage; are you seeing it in the 4.0 RC1 or later builds, please? Again, this is now a feature for after 4.0. Yes - might be good to create a Whiteboard for that, maybe? All the best, Kendy ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] LATE FEATURE: Personas in LibreOffice
Hi Michel, Kendy, * sorry this comes so late... * tldr: The background image UI should really go if it won't work. On 18 January 2013 10:03, Jan Holesovsky ke...@suse.cz wrote: May i make some suggestions on the pref panel ? - why not keep the own image to select an image in local hd ? Hm ... well, for Firefox, there's a persona builder add-on to do that. I think it can also upload personas, so in a way, that's covered. Additionally, of course, the background image functionality still doesn't work in master – so, given how... * we would need Kendy to work on this functionality, so it actually works * we would need string changes to point out that background images and personas are mutually exclusive (as you (Michel) already noticed) So, this leads me to believe that we're best of just removing the background images feature from 4.0. - if i understand ok (images and personas are exclusive), we can have the choices : *Toolbar background* O Default O Image Select Image... O Firefox PersonaSelect Persona... (I renamed own image to Image) Overall, I agree to this structure... and I am actually fine with the shorter option titles – instead of the long options, a short introductory text above telling users unaware of the feature what Personas are would be nice (like Use Personas to customize the background of your toolbar. not sure if needs any more than that). Again, this is now a feature for after 4.0. - would it be possible to add a preview of image/persona ? and a status text if there is an error (error loading image, error loading persona, timeout...). Agree. * * * On the design list, I wrote a small critique on the discoverability of the personas feature comparing it to the Firefox feature without any real solutions, just fyi... http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/A-new-old-branding-tp4028724p4030504.html Astron. ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] LATE FEATURE: Personas in LibreOffice
No, I don’t agree on removing the feature from 4.0. We should improve its rough edges instead of going the easy way. On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Stefan Knorr (Astron) heinzless...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Michel, Kendy, * sorry this comes so late... * tldr: The background image UI should really go if it won't work. On 18 January 2013 10:03, Jan Holesovsky ke...@suse.cz wrote: May i make some suggestions on the pref panel ? - why not keep the own image to select an image in local hd ? Hm ... well, for Firefox, there's a persona builder add-on to do that. I think it can also upload personas, so in a way, that's covered. Additionally, of course, the background image functionality still doesn't work in master – so, given how... * we would need Kendy to work on this functionality, so it actually works * we would need string changes to point out that background images and personas are mutually exclusive (as you (Michel) already noticed) So, this leads me to believe that we're best of just removing the background images feature from 4.0. - if i understand ok (images and personas are exclusive), we can have the choices : *Toolbar background* O Default O Image Select Image... O Firefox PersonaSelect Persona... (I renamed own image to Image) Overall, I agree to this structure... and I am actually fine with the shorter option titles – instead of the long options, a short introductory text above telling users unaware of the feature what Personas are would be nice (like Use Personas to customize the background of your toolbar. not sure if needs any more than that). Again, this is now a feature for after 4.0. - would it be possible to add a preview of image/persona ? and a status text if there is an error (error loading image, error loading persona, timeout...). Agree. * * * On the design list, I wrote a small critique on the discoverability of the personas feature comparing it to the Firefox feature without any real solutions, just fyi... http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/A-new-old-branding-tp4028724p4030504.html Astron. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list libreoffice-ux-adv...@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise -- Adolfo ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] LATE FEATURE: Personas in LibreOffice
Hi Michel, Kendy, * sorry this comes so late... * tldr: The background image UI should really go if it won't work. On 18 January 2013 10:03, Jan Holesovsky ke...@suse.cz wrote: May i make some suggestions on the pref panel ? - why not keep the own image to select an image in local hd ? Hm ... well, for Firefox, there's a persona builder add-on to do that. I think it can also upload personas, so in a way, that's covered. Additionally, of course, the background image functionality still doesn't work in master – so, given how... * we would need Kendy to work on this functionality, so it actually works * we would need string changes to point out that background images and personas are mutually exclusive (as you (Michel) already noticed) So, this leads me to believe that we're best of just removing the background images feature from 4.0. - if i understand ok (images and personas are exclusive), we can have the choices : *Toolbar background* O Default O Image Select Image... O Firefox PersonaSelect Persona... (I renamed own image to Image) Overall, I agree to this structure... and I am actually fine with the shorter option titles – instead of the long options, a short introductory text above telling users unaware of the feature what Personas are would be nice (like Use Personas to customize the background of your toolbar. not sure if needs any more than that). Again, this is now a feature for after 4.0. - would it be possible to add a preview of image/persona ? and a status text if there is an error (error loading image, error loading persona, timeout...). Agree. * * * On the design list, I wrote a small critique on the discoverability of the personas feature comparing it to the Firefox feature without any real solutions, just fyi... http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/A-new-old-branding-tp4028724p4030504.html Astron. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] LATE FEATURE: Personas in LibreOffice
No, I don’t agree on removing the feature from 4.0. We should improve its rough edges instead of going the easy way. On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Stefan Knorr (Astron) heinzless...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Michel, Kendy, * sorry this comes so late... * tldr: The background image UI should really go if it won't work. On 18 January 2013 10:03, Jan Holesovsky ke...@suse.cz wrote: May i make some suggestions on the pref panel ? - why not keep the own image to select an image in local hd ? Hm ... well, for Firefox, there's a persona builder add-on to do that. I think it can also upload personas, so in a way, that's covered. Additionally, of course, the background image functionality still doesn't work in master – so, given how... * we would need Kendy to work on this functionality, so it actually works * we would need string changes to point out that background images and personas are mutually exclusive (as you (Michel) already noticed) So, this leads me to believe that we're best of just removing the background images feature from 4.0. - if i understand ok (images and personas are exclusive), we can have the choices : *Toolbar background* O Default O Image Select Image... O Firefox PersonaSelect Persona... (I renamed own image to Image) Overall, I agree to this structure... and I am actually fine with the shorter option titles – instead of the long options, a short introductory text above telling users unaware of the feature what Personas are would be nice (like Use Personas to customize the background of your toolbar. not sure if needs any more than that). Again, this is now a feature for after 4.0. - would it be possible to add a preview of image/persona ? and a status text if there is an error (error loading image, error loading persona, timeout...). Agree. * * * On the design list, I wrote a small critique on the discoverability of the personas feature comparing it to the Firefox feature without any real solutions, just fyi... http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/A-new-old-branding-tp4028724p4030504.html Astron. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise -- Adolfo ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] LATE FEATURE: Personas in LibreOffice
Hi Fitoschido, On 24 January 2013 17:50, Adolfo Jayme Barrientos fitosch...@gmail.com wrote: No, I don’t agree on removing the feature from 4.0. We should improve its rough edges instead of going the easy way. You realise the 4.0.0 RC3 aka the 4.0.0 final release is going to be tagged beginning of next week and strings have been frozen for some time? Also, Kendy is on holiday until Monday. Astron. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] LATE FEATURE: Personas in LibreOffice
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Stefan Knorr (Astron) heinzless...@gmail.com wrote: You realise the 4.0.0 RC3 aka the 4.0.0 final release is going to be tagged beginning of next week and strings have been frozen for some time? Also, Kendy is on holiday until Monday. But still, it’s too late to remove things. Too much hype this feature has created on blogs already... And people is still yelling that “we do not care about UI” or something like that... -- Adolfo ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] LATE FEATURE: Personas in LibreOffice
Hi Adolfo, But still, it’s too late to remove things. Too much hype this feature has created on blogs already... And people is still yelling that “we do not care about UI” or something like that... Note that I only spoke about the user-defined background images feature. Not about the Personas feature. These are two separate (but mutually exclusive, IIUC) features. Astron. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] LATE FEATURE: Personas in LibreOffice
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Stefan Knorr (Astron) heinzless...@gmail.com wrote: Note that I only spoke about the user-defined background images feature. Not about the Personas feature. These are two separate (but mutually exclusive, IIUC) features. Astron. Sorry, I misread! -- Adolfo ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] LATE FEATURE: Personas in LibreOffice
Hi Michel, Michel Renon píše v St 09. 01. 2013 v 18:15 +0100: May i make some suggestions on the pref panel ? - why not keep the own image to select an image in local hd ? - if i understand ok (images and personas are exclusive), we can have the choices : *Toolbar background* O Default O Image Select Image... O Firefox PersonaSelect Persona... (I renamed own image to Image) I've updated the wording there already based on the Astron's suggestions - I hope it works for you too? - would it be possible to add a preview of image/persona ? and a status text if there is an error (error loading image, error loading persona, timeout...). From a user pov, it's an expected feed-back before validating. Very good idea - unfortunately more for 4.1, it's too late to do it now. I'll keep it in mind, thank you! - to be complete, LO should keep the path of image/url of persona, and show it below the preview ; and the url should be entered automatically in the persona dialog. I am not sure if it is useful to pre-file the current URL in the Persona dialog - it is supposed to be only a place to be pasted with the URL, no real editing, so... But showing the current Persona's URL might be good, indeed. All the best, Kendy ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] LATE FEATURE: Personas in LibreOffice
Hi Michel, Michel Renon píše v St 09. 01. 2013 v 18:15 +0100: May i make some suggestions on the pref panel ? - why not keep the own image to select an image in local hd ? - if i understand ok (images and personas are exclusive), we can have the choices : *Toolbar background* O Default O Image Select Image... O Firefox PersonaSelect Persona... (I renamed own image to Image) I've updated the wording there already based on the Astron's suggestions - I hope it works for you too? - would it be possible to add a preview of image/persona ? and a status text if there is an error (error loading image, error loading persona, timeout...). From a user pov, it's an expected feed-back before validating. Very good idea - unfortunately more for 4.1, it's too late to do it now. I'll keep it in mind, thank you! - to be complete, LO should keep the path of image/url of persona, and show it below the preview ; and the url should be entered automatically in the persona dialog. I am not sure if it is useful to pre-file the current URL in the Persona dialog - it is supposed to be only a place to be pasted with the URL, no real editing, so... But showing the current Persona's URL might be good, indeed. All the best, Kendy ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] LATE FEATURE: Personas in LibreOffice
Hi all, Le 08/01/2013 11:07, Jan Holesovsky a écrit : Hi Cor, Cor Nouws píše v Po 07. 01. 2013 v 22:56 +0100: Idea looks great to me and is an invitement for futher enhancements in the future :-) I gues the code in a daily from 2012-12-28 (1) is not yet complet? I see the option page, but choosing an own background image does not work (file picker handling is broken) and a choosen persona is not shown... That's too old, you need a build post 2012-01-04. The 'own background' is not working even there, and will be removed from 4.0 if the Persona part is approved (otherwise both will go). I tested on build 2013-01-08 on Ubuntu 12.04 and nothing works :-( Btw, it's a nice feature ! As it's a user's choice, we have not to worry about readability of toobars. May i make some suggestions on the pref panel ? - why not keep the own image to select an image in local hd ? - if i understand ok (images and personas are exclusive), we can have the choices : *Toolbar background* O Default O Image Select Image... O Firefox PersonaSelect Persona... (I renamed own image to Image) - would it be possible to add a preview of image/persona ? and a status text if there is an error (error loading image, error loading persona, timeout...). From a user pov, it's an expected feed-back before validating. - to be complete, LO should keep the path of image/url of persona, and show it below the preview ; and the url should be entered automatically in the persona dialog. So my complete suggestion in ascii : *Toolbar background* O Default O Image Select Image... O Firefox PersonaSelect Persona... [Status text, only if error] +---+ | | | preview | | | | | +---+ path/url : xx Thanks, Michel ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] LATE FEATURE: Personas in LibreOffice
Hi all, Le 08/01/2013 11:07, Jan Holesovsky a écrit : Hi Cor, Cor Nouws píše v Po 07. 01. 2013 v 22:56 +0100: Idea looks great to me and is an invitement for futher enhancements in the future :-) I gues the code in a daily from 2012-12-28 (1) is not yet complet? I see the option page, but choosing an own background image does not work (file picker handling is broken) and a choosen persona is not shown... That's too old, you need a build post 2012-01-04. The 'own background' is not working even there, and will be removed from 4.0 if the Persona part is approved (otherwise both will go). I tested on build 2013-01-08 on Ubuntu 12.04 and nothing works :-( Btw, it's a nice feature ! As it's a user's choice, we have not to worry about readability of toobars. May i make some suggestions on the pref panel ? - why not keep the own image to select an image in local hd ? - if i understand ok (images and personas are exclusive), we can have the choices : *Toolbar background* O Default O Image Select Image... O Firefox PersonaSelect Persona... (I renamed own image to Image) - would it be possible to add a preview of image/persona ? and a status text if there is an error (error loading image, error loading persona, timeout...). From a user pov, it's an expected feed-back before validating. - to be complete, LO should keep the path of image/url of persona, and show it below the preview ; and the url should be entered automatically in the persona dialog. So my complete suggestion in ascii : *Toolbar background* O Default O Image Select Image... O Firefox PersonaSelect Persona... [Status text, only if error] +---+ | | | preview | | | | | +---+ path/url : xx Thanks, Michel ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] LATE FEATURE: Personas in LibreOffice
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 4:32 AM, Jan Holesovsky ke...@suse.cz wrote: Please let me know if this is acceptable, and if you need any help with the review. It would be really nice to get this landed in 4.0. Many users ask for greater UI customization, and this is a great start. Putting technical issues aside, I don’t see UX problems in this. ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] LATE FEATURE: Personas in LibreOffice
Hi Kendy, all Adolfo Jayme Barrientos wrote On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 4:32 AM, Jan Holesovsky lt; kendy@ gt; wrote: Please let me know if this is acceptable, and if you need any help with the review. It would be really nice to get this landed in 4.0. Many users ask for greater UI customization, and this is a great start. Putting technical issues aside, I don’t see UX problems in this. This is a quite nice feature although from my brief tests is only usable with Solid themes (artistic designs make buttons unreadable...) I tested under Windows XP with Version 4.1.0.0.alpha0+ (Build ID: ff927ba4272aa8f115472577ec9393df19016f2) TinderBox: Win-x86@6, Branch:master, Time: 2013-01-08_01:14:22 Background images (there is a typo in the Select Background Image button) are not loaded, neither jpg nor png Cheers, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/LATE-FEATURE-Personas-in-LibreOffice-tp4027571p4027791.html Sent from the Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] LATE FEATURE: Personas in LibreOffice
Hi Cor, Cor Nouws píše v Po 07. 01. 2013 v 22:56 +0100: Idea looks great to me and is an invitement for futher enhancements in the future :-) I gues the code in a daily from 2012-12-28 (1) is not yet complet? I see the option page, but choosing an own background image does not work (file picker handling is broken) and a choosen persona is not shown... That's too old, you need a build post 2012-01-04. The 'own background' is not working even there, and will be removed from 4.0 if the Persona part is approved (otherwise both will go). Regards, Kendy ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] LATE FEATURE: Personas in LibreOffice
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Kendy I got it working on master. Really nice work and some room or improvement as well:I wonder if the persona also has a footer to decorate the LO status bar. I got a crash on changing a persona to another, but I'll get a traceback as soon as I can. Some LibreOffice related personas http://www.getpersonas.com/en-US/gallery/All/search?p=libreofficesearch.x=0search.y=0 Regards Olivier Em 07-01-2013 08:32, Jan Holesovsky escreveu: Hi Astron, Caolán, Olivier, all, I'd like to ask you [or any additional reviewers :-)] for review of a late 4.0 feature - the Firefox Personas for LibreOffice. It is supposed to work like this: - the user chooses Tools - Options - Personalization - Select Persona - then navigates to http://www.getpersonas.com, and chooses Persona she likes - copies the URL of that Persona to clipboard, pastes that to the dialog, [OK] - closes the Options with [OK] And the the Persona is used in LibreOffice, like this: http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~kendy/blog/pics/libreoffice-personas-1.png or http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~kendy/blog/pics/libreoffice-personas-2.png Depends on the taste - there are 35k Personas to choose from :-) Of course, switching the Personas off again is trivial in Tools - Options - Personalization too. The patches that do that are quite small, in fact just this: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=a2500801cf2d337f176b074f9159df4925420af4 http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=9ae27252a6a07f4b67a43be6c9289983f43b2e95 http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=46505e82ad0f2bd9586e6c853e6e68635dc54007 http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=3fc8c364cc58429bd840f47a80a9258de21ed131 But - there is one catch. There was no way to load .jpg directly in vcl (but logically, the functionality belongs there), so I moved GraphicFilter from svtools to vcl. The move will also allow simplification of some code in desktop/ I believe. Also there were some bugs in vcl that were triggered by the feature; and I fixed them. Consequently, the full list of patches to cherry-pick to libreoffice-4-0 is: git log 255c03d6ad4ed13c456ee621e0af765684a475d2~..4a4627eba410df933d004170d9f5638526acaed2 git log 540f090a68ae4375a36d0ee6dfbb4a82f28ac704~..540f090a68ae4375a36d0ee6dfbb4a82f28ac704 git log c223e5ff859171adab1597025b30ec2501fc5771~..3f3d0c52ae29b6ab6b2c10a5557714361aa76a26 Please let me know if this is acceptable, and if you need any help with the review. Thank you a lot, Kendy - -- Olivier Hallot Founder, Board of Directors Member - The Document Foundation The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Fundação responsável civilmente, de acordo com o direito civil Detalhes Legais: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint LibreOffice translation leader for Brazilian Portuguese +55-21-8822-8812 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQ6/DpAAoJEJp3R7nH3vLxUOIIAI3tzLd4Q8+eGtgJIyEzDg1g 3l8AN8oc7Bz28cqZYEODcPSzbYubAyjqXZPu1D3k65L6fyVNK9y+gFHnHyJgVSQr YzFtTXTjEHyNBy8OdVlPI6gbEnsNMQ1rkFT1/uJ1tGiKa9QPG/lyzcTP+2qnSdXp D/47RGkLXehuoBTuzqVSLlzEhECRXBI80VsLCmnfNJL+ypioJJhJdkL4QqgIn72+ WgxMkeNd44rD0Dm9XAkN+sXizj5+o796gXr+/cSK/uhZ3zp9xnhNd1w2QQgbofmK KPwROms02W7HnoCUwSn6EoOB7sAKsVq051ojTaOF072AfBXvJjEHeJt06ySt4GI= =HK7C -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] LATE FEATURE: Personas in LibreOffice
Hi Kendy Jan Holesovsky wrote (07-01-13 11:32) Please let me know if this is acceptable, and if you need any help with the review. Idea looks great to me and is an invitement for futher enhancements in the future :-) I gues the code in a daily from 2012-12-28 (1) is not yet complet? I see the option page, but choosing an own background image does not work (file picker handling is broken) and a choosen persona is not shown... Cheers Cor 1) Version 4.0.0.0.beta2+ (Build ID: 1d7287f8d7984eae98a577f60a8bc0a740fc5e9) -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org - www.librelex.org ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise