Re: Design-related questions
Hi Alex, Alexander Wilms píše v Út 11. 09. 2012 v 22:32 +0200: Is that the option that internally formats the xml so that it is better readable by humans? The devs can for sure use some external pretty-printers (xmllint or something) to achieve this, so I think they are not the target group here. Yes, it add line breaks. I guess the option is unnecessary and the affiliated code could be removed sooner or later. OK, let's do that then :-) If you can create an EasyHack bug for that, and give me its number, I will add the code pointers there. If you mean the native Windows / Gnome / KDE dialogs, it is a bit hard; they support a way to add check boxes, but more might be problematic. Do you have an example of another app that does this? If there is one, I am sure we can do it too. I remember seeing a similar message inside a Gtk+ file dialog, but I don't know about other systems. Maybe I can find the application and check whether it works under Windows. OK, thanks! All the best, Kendy ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Design-related questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Here's the bug report: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54812 Should the design team add easyhacks for each unnecessary option? Here's an analysis of the current situation: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Analyses/Global_Options Thanks, Alex -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQUJNKAAoJECO1/tAiWGrNiyoIAJ9ahcbQiNIB64hiOwlrzEWX 7igykEVjFV6xo08Es3D/yF3bBGINzPndOpb/qlsdcP6DVj2OhyMa3CX0FAcE0xTK L/26F7Kk4jQDYu+CWQf+DNIkR9nAPAPhRoClPffcGMZCLxmYb6Z4jCsSqX99KW+u 0bGvFcNd/T1HL2YvY7isamP5wxvFRcYEEhHfsDj2Aae26qAAxDtzAbcHvHMwNuc1 jnovxI9Mciqfda8cGxZD6YqlYvJWWgMlbLekEtrDZF/NQK8LMSW+QU1dcxSDqjfN Y408Q4fiDBg8RaEZGv2iSBV+9uqx4/lexeY4btVwZpwPMrbHUZMH5R7MiwJbgAM= =0uWg -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Design-related questions
Alexander Wilms wrote: Here's the bug report: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54812 Hi Alex, sorry for jumping in a bit late - I personally use the pretty-printing option a lot. Perfectly fine with removing the UI code, but would like to keep the actual line feed addition. Should the design team add easyhacks for each unnecessary option? Here's an analysis of the current situation: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Analyses/Global_Options Sounds like a plan to me, with the caveat that removing code that depends on the option / removing the option from the config mgr is a somewhat orthogonal question, see above. Cheers, -- Thorsten pgplOcz1JRWtx.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Design-related questions
Alexander Wilms wrote: If you mean the native Windows / Gnome / KDE dialogs, it is a bit hard; they support a way to add check boxes, but more might be problematic. Do you have an example of another app that does this? If there is one, I am sure we can do it too. I remember seeing a similar message inside a Gtk+ file dialog, but I don't know about other systems. Maybe I can find the application and check whether it works under Windows. Rather arbitrary controls should work on windows, FWICT. Cheers, -- Thorsten pgp78DA7ShOIK.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Design-related questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Thorsten, thanks for your feedback. We hope that an about:config-like functionality could be implemented (maybe during the next GSoC) Advanced options like could then be moved to such an advanced options pane and eventually completely removed if nobody actually uses them. Would you be ok with that? Alex -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQUKxdAAoJECO1/tAiWGrNpDAIAI8H41QmT7DDA6b4fYpGOK1X w1tmfnoDl5zzPeAVaQEaLea6gk/vU/6AIWojeS2pWBR949fdosDr+NHiGF3dKONr TjGUJ2umZN7RC094MKeK2mVt1L90NCHPXlkdLfCmlNbr7dSlfSOF2j0WxPK09FBX OaJPZtP5gr1TnM7CcwupVjN78BonZz/JiKy7yv/67AyE8yJ9FSEDDP1tI7QoRAl3 XuDCeFyWuBRERio9sU6S/EJxSrDPF7Q2M989/RQymBVpbuyCNgyMertucFGs19No D+UNAYx6d6xIUf/TYUIgKoo/ca2baqO5iyaBiUnEi/oNOUp6AXHPir2/vmMoghE= =wPyC -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Design-related questions
On 12/09/12 17:09, Thorsten Behrens wrote: Alexander Wilms wrote: Here's the bug report: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54812 Hi Alex, sorry for jumping in a bit late - I personally use the pretty-printing option a lot. Perfectly fine with removing the UI code, but would like to keep the actual line feed addition. Should the design team add easyhacks for each unnecessary option? Here's an analysis of the current situation: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Analyses/Global_Options Sounds like a plan to me, with the caveat that removing code that depends on the option / removing the option from the config mgr is a somewhat orthogonal question, see above. i wonder, would both of you be happy if the option in the UI were visible only in a --enable-dbgutil build ? i.e. end users never see it, but developers do. ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Design-related questions
Alexander Wilms wrote: We hope that an about:config-like functionality could be implemented (maybe during the next GSoC) Hoping so since a while! ;) Advanced options like could then be moved to such an advanced options pane and eventually completely removed if nobody actually uses them. Would you be ok with that? Absolutely - and there's already a *vast* amount of those hidden options in the product, that never had a UI control associated - thus such an about:config thing would expose you to a virtually infinite area for tinkering. :) Cheers, -- Thorsten pgp7quwbQo5Tc.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Design-related questions
Hi Alex, Alexander Wilms píše v So 08. 09. 2012 v 00:38 +0200: during the last IRC meeting of the design team a few questions were raised and maybe some devs could answer them. 1) Would it be feasible to create a new UI element, a modal bar like the one shown in Nautilus when e.g. an MP3 player is plugged. After the user exits Impress' slideshow mode while using the Android remote, a modal bar should appear, featuring a button to disconnect the phone and one to stay connected for future presentations. It's always best to attach a screenshot / mockup to show what you have exactly in mind :-) But if I understand that correctly, it is the thing that Firefox also uses to teach more about the license etc. This is not the first request for this - Cedric might need that for the CMIS work, or Lubos for his planed font-related work. Ie. it will happen, but no idea yet who will be the lucky one who implements it first ;-) 2) Do you need the option 'Size optimization for ODF format'. We're not sure whether it's an advanced feature used by devs or if it's unneccessary. Is that the option that internally formats the xml so that it is better readable by humans? The devs can for sure use some external pretty-printers (xmllint or something) to achieve this, so I think they are not the target group here. 3) Is it possible to integrate warnings like 'You're saving to OOXML, which means some formatting might get lost.' into the system file dialogs? Like, to use that instead of our beware, you are saving non-ODF! dialog box? If you mean the native Windows / Gnome / KDE dialogs, it is a bit hard; they support a way to add check boxes, but more might be problematic. Do you have an example of another app that does this? If there is one, I am sure we can do it too. All the best, Kendy ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: Design-related questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Kendy, It's always best to attach a screenshot / mockup to show what you have exactly in mind But if I understand that correctly, it is the thing that Firefox also uses to teach more about the license etc. This is not the first request for this - Cedric might need that for the CMIS work, or Lubos for his planed font-related work. Ie. it will happen, but no idea yet who will be the lucky one who implements it first Sounds good :). It's not very urgent, but would be a nice-to-have. Is that the option that internally formats the xml so that it is better readable by humans? The devs can for sure use some external pretty-printers (xmllint or something) to achieve this, so I think they are not the target group here. Yes, it add line breaks. I guess the option is unnecessary and the affiliated code could be removed sooner or later. If you mean the native Windows / Gnome / KDE dialogs, it is a bit hard; they support a way to add check boxes, but more might be problematic. Do you have an example of another app that does this? If there is one, I am sure we can do it too. I remember seeing a similar message inside a Gtk+ file dialog, but I don't know about other systems. Maybe I can find the application and check whether it works under Windows. Cheers Alex -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQT5/xAAoJECO1/tAiWGrNTWUH/iHYZTxBR45shcl3a3Gf7V6x BcTMFOkzQMjJ68YgFb3GtOXVHXqwYjh/f3skw/WPViQqyST7piyftdgSn7xU7sD2 HcWgZVTTL2sAfAw7kGwq8MFgKHQdlPXvojvt77AphAtXcTZTldgmv8JEb54tui2V Y6r/OsTKnxCOuzmwkAkPj9ok7eBwIjvBWhzfBxXaiukFRVynGfKgVkqxxcsB0l6m QazyUGQJwvfMZgVpMhEpfDlvJ9eC9mDAKcQyZXdtKf+fBrOjLI0zH6m/DNKsH+Xc 76rYln6FNZphyt0niqYBTBmwMAvKcxIdrF/3L93U0VZNEEphXY5FxTjmf9kP4Z4= =yuFO -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
