Re: GSOC / VLC status next steps ...
Could anybody check it for successful compiling on Windows? Thanks. It still requires libvlc headers, is that intentional? --tml ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: GSOC / VLC status next steps ...
On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 13:53 +0200, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: Very very strong API stability on libVLC. Great news :-) API functions are added, that's it. Nothing is removed, ABI is kept. Extension of API gets with newer functions, if needed. Any chance of an easy-to-check version method a-la gtk that we can depend on ? int libvcl_check_version_is(int major, int minor, int min); or whatever ? IIRC Minh had to fix some other issue without which we failed to work anyway, so we could depend on a new method being there easily enough. Complete API instability on libVLCcore, but you don't care, and if you link to libvlccore, I can't do anything for you :) Excellent; of course we need an easy way to check / get parsed versions to work around bugs, and avoid crashers so ... Default is on Program Files (32bits) /VideoLAN/VLC/libvlc.dll as recommended by Microsoft. Regedit is: HKLM\Software\VideoLAN\VLC\InstallDir as recommended. Thanks for that - Minh - we should default to fetching the install path from the registry key on windows I guess. has nothing but perhaps a normal install path, and MacOS X is the usual mess, but we recommend /Applications/VLC.app/ and you can find the libvlc.dylib Great; thanks. for Linux it's unclear we want to use a system / distro packaged VLC since it's almost certainly pre-broken. Linux, what do you mean pre-broken? I fully expect that every Linux packager in the world looks at VLC and says: but really this is 173 packages bundled together, of which we can only ship 13 by default - and explodes the thing into 173 mis-configured pieces, and in doing so destroys the value of VLC to LibreOffice: ie. it just works :-) Of course; then (I imagine) most people just go and download the real thing from videolan.org - so my recommendation is, that we should only use libVLC if we are reasonably sure it is not the distribution package :-) ATB, Michael. -- michael.me...@suse.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: GSOC / VLC status next steps ...
On 23 Aug, Michael Meeks wrote : Any chance of an easy-to-check version method a-la gtk that we can depend on ? libvlc_get_version is not enough? Linux, what do you mean pre-broken? I fully expect that every Linux packager in the world looks at VLC and says: but really this is 173 packages bundled together, of which we can only ship 13 by default - and explodes the thing into 173 mis-configured pieces, and in doing so destroys the value of VLC to LibreOffice: ie. it just works :-) Of course; then (I imagine) most people just go and download the real thing from videolan.org - so my recommendation is, that we should only use libVLC if we are reasonably sure it is not the distribution package :-) No, all VLC installs are from distributions. We don't ship anything. We host SuSE binaries, though, but they package the core VLC for the next versions. Best regards, -- Jean-Baptiste Kempf http://www.jbkempf.com/ - +33 672 704 734 Sent from my Electronic Device ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: GSOC / VLC status next steps ...
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 05:09:54PM +0200, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: On 23 Aug, Michael Meeks wrote : Linux, what do you mean pre-broken? I fully expect that every Linux packager in the world looks at VLC and says: but really this is 173 packages bundled together, of which we can only ship 13 by default - and explodes the thing into 173 mis-configured pieces, and in doing so destroys the value of VLC to LibreOffice: ie. it just works :-) Of course; then (I imagine) most people just go and download the real thing from videolan.org - so my recommendation is, that we should only use libVLC if we are reasonably sure it is not the distribution package :-) No, all VLC installs are from distributions. We don't ship anything. This is of course because the split into 173 mis-configured pieces fate is carefully reserved by packagers for those upstreams that carelessly add 5 exciting new external dependencies with each major release ... Best, Bjoern ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: GSOC / VLC status next steps ...
On 23 Aug, bjoern wrote : This is of course because the split into 173 mis-configured pieces fate is carefully reserved by packagers for those upstreams that carelessly add 5 exciting new external dependencies with each major release ... Like? As far as I know VLC has exactly the same dependency on precise, raring, quantal and saucy. -- Jean-Baptiste Kempf http://www.jbkempf.com/ - +33 672 704 734 Sent from my Electronic Device ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: GSOC / VLC status next steps ...
On Fri, 2013-08-23 at 17:09 +0200, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: libvlc_get_version is not enough? We can be sure that it is digit+.digit+.digit+ followed by non-digits ? if so, fine I guess. Thanks, Michael. -- michael.me...@suse.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: GSOC / VLC status next steps ...
On 23/08/13 17:36, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: On 23 Aug, bjoern wrote : This is of course because the split into 173 mis-configured pieces fate is carefully reserved by packagers for those upstreams that carelessly add 5 exciting new external dependencies with each major release ... Like? As far as I know VLC has exactly the same dependency on precise, raring, quantal and saucy. i think his point was that LibreOffice doesn't :) ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: GSOC / VLC status next steps ...
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 05:36:53PM +0200, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: As far as I know VLC has exactly the same dependency on precise, raring, quantal and saucy. ... unlike LibreOffice for example. ;) Best, Bjoern ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: GSOC / VLC status next steps ...
Hello, On 21 Aug, Michael Meeks wrote : 1. we need to be sure of the API guarentees around libvlc + JB - what API guarentees do you have there ? Very very strong API stability on libVLC. API functions are added, that's it. Nothing is removed, ABI is kept. Extension of API gets with newer functions, if needed. Complete API instability on libVLCcore, but you don't care, and if you link to libvlccore, I can't do anything for you :) + we currently hard-code your ABI in the wrapper we use to make this a very lite dependency ABI is maintained since libVLC 1.1 and we intend to always keep it. ABI breakage should be considered a bug and reported ASAP. Would it be better to have an 'ABI version' that is incremented as/when back-compatibility of your plugin API changes ? [ that we could switch on ] No, because we don't break ABI and we won't. 2. we need a good way to locate VLC / libvlc by default on Win / Mac / Linux + JB: I assume that there are default install paths is there a registry key on Windows ? Mac (I assume) Default is on Program Files (32bits) /VideoLAN/VLC/libvlc.dll as recommended by Microsoft. Regedit is: HKLM\Software\VideoLAN\VLC\InstallDir as recommended. has nothing but perhaps a normal install path, and MacOS X is the usual mess, but we recommend /Applications/VLC.app/ and you can find the libvlc.dylib for Linux it's unclear we want to use a system / distro packaged VLC since it's almost certainly pre-broken. Linux, what do you mean pre-broken? Best regards, -- Jean-Baptiste Kempf http://www.jbkempf.com/ - +33 672 704 734 Sent from my Electronic Device ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
