Re: opinion on SimpleProgramDebugger as a LibO debug tool

2014-04-30 Thread Miklos Vajna
Hi,

On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 01:44:10PM +0200, Tommy ba...@quipo.it wrote:
 I'll try to be clearer: is this SimpleProgramDebugger a Windows
 alternative to Valgrind or other Linux tools that people use to do
 profiling, backtraces etc. etc. ?

From the http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/simple_program_debugger.html
description, it seems (to me) that it's more similar to process monitor
(and Linux's strace tool) that monitors syscalls. This is useful
sometimes, but in most cases it's not what we're searching for.

 I have no experience at all with Linux and I don't have enough spare
 time to learn it, so I wonder if this Windows tool may be used by
 Windows users like me to obtain the same results as Linux users do
 with Valgrind.
 
 if yes,  will the developers be able to interpret
 SimpleProgramDebugger's output like they already do with Valgrind?

To me, the most useful input from users to a step by step description of
the problem, so that I can reproduce myself. On Windows, this means
then I can debug the problem myself using Visual Studio's debugger. I
didn't have to deal with Windows-specific memory corruption issues yet,
though previously it was reported that DrMemory
(http://www.drmemory.org/) does a pretty good job at it.

Best,

Miklos


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Re: opinion on SimpleProgramDebugger as a LibO debug tool

2014-04-24 Thread Miklos Vajna
Hi,

On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 05:08:29PM +0200, Tommy ba...@quipo.it wrote:
 I stumbled upon this freeware application and I wonder if it may
 help doing backtraces or profiling under Window.
 
 http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/simple_program_debugger.html
 
 unfortunately I have no experience to judge if the output of this
 software may be useful or not for QA and developers.
 
 so, please, give it a try and report if useful or useless.

From a developer's point of view, we already require Visual Studio on
Windows for building, and it has a debugger built in already. I
understand if -- for QA purposes, when you don't set up a build
environment -- other debuggers are useful, but for a developer, the VS
debugger is already there, so there is little point in experimenting
with other debuggers. Unless the VS debugger doesn't fulfill our
requirements (but it does mine).

Miklos


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Re: opinion on SimpleProgramDebugger as a LibO debug tool

2014-04-24 Thread Tommy
On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 08:39:19 +0200, Miklos Vajna vmik...@collabora.co.uk  
wrote:



Hi,

On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 05:08:29PM +0200, Tommy ba...@quipo.it wrote:

I stumbled upon this freeware application and I wonder if it may
help doing backtraces or profiling under Window.

http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/simple_program_debugger.html

unfortunately I have no experience to judge if the output of this
software may be useful or not for QA and developers.

so, please, give it a try and report if useful or useless.





... snip ...
I understand if -- for QA purposes, when you don't set up a build
environment -- other debuggers are useful, for a developer, the VS
debugger is already there, so there is little point in experimenting
with other debuggers.
Miklos


I'll try to be clearer: is this SimpleProgramDebugger a Windows  
alternative to Valgrind or other Linux tools that people use to do  
profiling, backtraces etc. etc. ?


I have no experience at all with Linux and I don't have enough spare time  
to learn it, so I wonder if this Windows tool may be used by Windows users  
like me to obtain the same results as Linux users do with Valgrind.


if yes,  will the developers be able to interpret SimpleProgramDebugger's  
output like they already do with Valgrind?


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opinion on SimpleProgramDebugger as a LibO debug tool

2014-04-23 Thread Tommy
I stumbled upon this freeware application and I wonder if it may help  
doing backtraces or profiling under Window.


http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/simple_program_debugger.html

unfortunately I have no experience to judge if the output of this software  
may be useful or not for QA and developers.


so, please, give it a try and report if useful or useless.

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