[Bug 140752] .uno.DefaultNumbering and .uno:defaultBullet (on Formatting bar) modify a list style -- should it?

2024-03-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140752

--- Comment #12 from Mike Kaganski  ---
(In reply to Justin L from comment #11)

Ah - thank you!
But why is this inevitable? Isn't it orthogonal, and can't these commands clear
the list prior to assigning the default?

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[Bug 140752] .uno.DefaultNumbering and .uno:defaultBullet (on Formatting bar) modify a list style -- should it?

2024-03-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #11 from Justin L  ---
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #10)
> IIUC, this bug is completely unrelated to the behavior of the toolbar button.
I don't think you understand correctly. OP talks about the "formatting bar" and
.uno commands which are called by toolbar buttons (or sidebar para properties). 

> which, in case of list style, also assigns the style to
> current place in document without double-click.
Assigning a style to paragraphs was not discussed in this bug report.

The issue discussed is that if you use the numbering dropdown to change the
numbering format, it makes a change to the style itself that defines the
currently selected list.

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[Bug 140752] .uno.DefaultNumbering and .uno:defaultBullet (on Formatting bar) modify a list style -- should it?

2024-03-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #10 from Mike Kaganski  ---
(In reply to Justin L from comment #9)

I don't quite follow you. IIUC, this bug is completely unrelated to the
behavior of the toolbar button. It is about sidebar, its feature to edit
different styles, which, in case of list style, also assigns the style to
current place in document without double-click.

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[Bug 140752] .uno.DefaultNumbering and .uno:defaultBullet (on Formatting bar) modify a list style -- should it?

2024-03-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #9 from Justin L  ---
If you DON'T modify the list style, you get bug reports like 159054. Because LO
is so inconsistent/limited in handling numbering, this should be a WONTFIX
unless it is part of a major overhaul. There is not really a "correct" answer
here, so better to leave things as they are.

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[Bug 140752] .uno.DefaultNumbering and .uno:defaultBullet (on Formatting bar) modify a list style -- should it?

2024-03-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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2023-01-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #8 from Justin L  ---
*** Bug 120802 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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2023-01-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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2022-05-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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2021-03-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #7 from Mike Kaganski  ---
IMO definitely a bug.

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2021-03-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #6 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Would be desirable to have a consistent approach to styles. But if that's
possible is a question to developers.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140752] .uno.DefaultNumbering and .uno:defaultBullet (on Formatting bar) modify a list style -- should it?

2021-03-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #5 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #2)
> Cannot follow. What I do is
> 
> 1. Add some lines of text a,b,c
> 2. Apply list style "Numbering 123" via stylist to these lines
> 3. Per "Toggle Ordered List" on the toolbar I switch to round brackets
4. Open Styles deck and edit list style Numbering 123 to confirm in the style
dialog that the change has also been registered for Numbering 123 List style.

Whether it was the developers intention or not (comment 4), it also seems like
a UI/UX problem. If you (by mistake) used the dropdown box in the Formatting
toolbar to change the numbering scheme of your list style, as in your example
(or even worse, choose the lower right corner in the Outline tab of B
dialog), then any formatting that you did with position and customize is lost
in your Numbering 123 list style. Afaict, all operations in the Bullets and
Numbering dialog (including Outline) will modify the settings in a list style. 
This is not consistent with the usual style interactions (i.e., with character
and paragraph, using character or paragraph dialog or using Formatting bar does
not modify CS or PS).

My aim with this bug report is to highlight this issue -- in the belief that
others will find it problematic - and might try to address the problem. Even if
the existing underlying implementation of lists is not changed, there are
probably a number of UI changes that could be done to preserve the "mythic"
beliefs around significant differences between DF and List Styles. Bug 140612
was one small UI suggestion in that direction. But now I think my aim is
achieved, so I will leave the matter to more qualified persons.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140752] .uno.DefaultNumbering and .uno:defaultBullet (on Formatting bar) modify a list style -- should it?

2021-03-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #4 from Heiko Tietze  ---
AFAICS, every list style does its label via direct formatting. It's rather a
question to the developers if this DF is intended or not.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140752] .uno.DefaultNumbering and .uno:defaultBullet (on Formatting bar) modify a list style -- should it?

2021-03-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #3 from Dieter  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #2)
> Cannot follow. What I do is
> 3. Per "Toggle Ordered List" on the toolbar I switch to round brackets

The point is, that this changes the list style. But as far as I understand you,
this is the expected result, right?

> In any case the List Label String is a direct formatting according the
> styles inspector.

Sorry, you're right. But I can't remove it with Strg+m. Is this also expected
or is it a bug (haven't searched for an existing bug report).

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140752] .uno.DefaultNumbering and .uno:defaultBullet (on Formatting bar) modify a list style -- should it?

2021-03-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Cannot follow. What I do is

1. Add some lines of text a,b,c
2. Apply list style "Numbering 123" via stylist to these lines
3. Per "Toggle Ordered List" on the toolbar I switch to round brackets
4. Per modify list style I set square brackets

In any case the List Label String is a direct formatting according the styles
inspector. What am I missing?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140752] .uno.DefaultNumbering and .uno:defaultBullet (on Formatting bar) modify a list style -- should it?

2021-03-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #1 from Dieter  ---
I confirm the described behaviour with

Version: 7.1.1.2 (x64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: fe0b08f4af1bacafe4c7ecc87ce55bb426164676
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19042; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win
Locale: de-DE (de_DE); UI: en-GB
Calc: CL

and I also don't understand the current behaviour. If you create a new list
with "Toggle Ordered List" button you neither apply a list style nor a DF. But
what?

cc: Design-Team for further input and decision

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140752] .uno.DefaultNumbering and .uno:defaultBullet (on Formatting bar) modify a list style -- should it?

2021-03-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140752] .uno.DefaultNumbering and .uno:defaultBullet (on Formatting bar) modify a list style -- should it?

2021-03-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103369
[Bug 103369] [META] Bullet, numbered, and outline list bugs and enhancements
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107832
[Bug 107832] [META] Writer list style bugs and enhancements
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