[Bug 161516] Label "Compare Document…" menu (and toolbars menu items) action more clearly, to indicate comparison direction

2024-06-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161516

--- Comment #3 from Jeff Fortin Tam  ---
Not just about comparing side-by-side, but also the "Accept/reject changes"
dialog (i.e. the one used for tracked changes) depends on this directional
aspect, so it's not just a visual issue in the document canvas.

Indeed a comparison setup GUI like Meld's where you can tell the software "what
is what" would be the ultimate solution, but my suggestion here in the meantime
was just to start by clarifying the label as a stopgap solution, because it
would presumably be trivial to do (other than the fact that you have to
replicate that change across all the menus and UI variants).

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[Bug 161516] Label "Compare Document…" menu (and toolbars menu items) action more clearly, to indicate comparison direction

2024-06-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161516

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||115596


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115596
[Bug 115596] [META] Labels of UNO commands bugs and enhancements
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[Bug 161516] Label "Compare Document…" menu (and toolbars menu items) action more clearly, to indicate comparison direction

2024-06-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161516

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org,
   ||mentoring@documentfoundatio
   ||n.org
   Keywords|needsUXEval |difficultyBeginner,
   ||easyHack, skillDesign,
   ||topicDesign
   Severity|enhancement |normal

--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze  ---
The suggested label could improve the understanding (and is easy to realize).
Don't think it makes the processing perfectly clear, though.

The label is defined as ContextLabel of .uno:CompareDocuments in
officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/UI/GenericCommands.xcu


Considering the directional choice I wonder if Target <-> Source is really a
help. First of all, what does T -> S mean; does it change the source or will
changes from the source will be reversely applied to the target (whatever that
means)? 

If the current document (target) contains "He heard quiet steps..." and the
source "She heard quiet steps..." it becomes "He -She-...", which seems pretty
clear. Same for deletions and additions. Plus, you get a list of changes in the
TC manager dialog or the sidebar.

The only way to make it more clear is to show the two documents next to each
other.

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[Bug 161516] Label "Compare Document…" menu (and toolbars menu items) action more clearly, to indicate comparison direction

2024-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161516

Stéphane Guillou (stragu)  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org,
   ||stephane.guillou@libreoffic
   ||e.org
 Ever confirmed|0   |1
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
   Keywords||needsUXEval

--- Comment #1 from Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 
 ---
I agree this is confusing and is an issue that needs resolving.

(In reply to Jeff Fortin Tam from comment #0)
> "Compare Document with a Previous Version…"
> (if that's indeed what it does)
I feel like using terms that relate to recency or relative age is not the right
solution. A user might be comparing their version of a document with another
person's version, with diverging histories but no clear "before" and "after".

The help[1] does use "newer" vs "older":

> You should always start with opening the newer document and compare it with 
> the
> older document.

Maybe using a term like "reference" or "base" would be better?

But really, I feel like this feature should have an intermediate step that lets
the user choose which document is the base and which one is compared to the
base, because the current UX is very, very poor:

1. open base document
2. compare
3. see that direction is wrong
4. close document
5. open modified document
6. compare, now in the right direction

UX/Design team, opinions? Band-aid relabel, or more involved (but possibly a
interesting easyHack) intermediate step?

[1]:
https://help.libreoffice.org/latest/en-US/text/shared/guide/redlining_doccompare.html

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[Bug 161516] Label "Compare Document…" menu (and toolbars menu items) action more clearly, to indicate comparison direction

2024-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161516

Jeff Fortin Tam  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||125674
   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15
   ||7338
Summary|Label "Compare Document…"   |Label "Compare Document…"
   |menu action more clearly,   |menu (and toolbars menu
   |to indicate comparison  |items) action more clearly,
   |direction   |to indicate comparison
   ||direction


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125674
[Bug 125674] [META] Document Comparison bugs and enhancements
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