[Bug 37134] Tabbed UI: Document-per-tab (similar to Firefox, Opera, gedit) MDI

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Example2 with multiple tabs

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RedDiamond with multiple tabs

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--- Comment #101 from Roland Hughes  ---
(In reply to David from comment #100)
> (In reply to Sahil Gautam from comment #98)
> > How I imagine solving it:
> > 
> > Suppose that the UI side is taken care of, then isn't opening a document in
> > a new tab same as clicking on some document from the startcenter (or opening
> > a new document), and just showing a box(tab) with it's name type and maybe
> > save state. And Closing a tab would be same as clicking on the cross button
> > on the top right corner.
> > 
> > And talking about the UI, Notebookbar's "tags" like file, home etc,is the
> > closest analog to tabs I see in LIbreoffice's UI, and studying and modifying
> > that so as to dynamically create those "tags", but for files, with a cross
> > button on the right side, shouldn't be that complicated (maybe). "Would be
> > just the perfect bug for me to work on, incremental and challenging" :).
> 
> Since the "Window" menu maintains a list of all the open documents, could
> that same code be modified to create a dynamic tabbar?

I haven't looked at the code, but it is extremely unlikely. I don't know what
cross platform C++ library LO is using, but let us say either Qt or CopperSpice
soley for the the sake of conversation. I do this in my RedDiamond editor
package on SourceForge which uses CopperSpice (Qt fork). I don't allow multiple
instances to be running but I do allow multiple windows. Each window has a
group of tabs. (I will upload screen shot so you don't have to read code.) The
RDSingleton object creates however many main windows were open last time and
the window creation process loads all previously open files and buffers.

The "Window" menu item is tracking instances of MainWindow which is derived
from QMainWindow. The tabs each contain an instance of EdtEditWidget.

To implement even simple first-level tab support like I have in RedDiamond one
would need to rip out the "central widget" for the Writer main window and stuff
it into a DocumentEditWidget then they would have to put a QTabBar as the only
thing in MainWindow below the menu. Instead of directly communicating with
whatever that single document object was, the main window class would basically
need to be gutted to always connect signals and slots between each
DocumentEditWidget. Whenever something was triggered it would need to connect
with/operate on the DocumentEditObject in the current visible tab.

Actually, now that I think of it you probably want to look at Example2 of my
Scintilla fork to CopperSpice.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/csscintilla/

Multiple tabs and an incredibly stripped down edit widget. The mainwindow.cpp
file is under 500 lines and you really only care about the first 100. If you
are on a Debian based Linux distro you can install the .debs for CopperSpice
and CsScintilla from the Files section, then unzip the source file and run the
script to build the examples so you can see it run.

I'm not trying to talk down to you, it sounded like you wanted to learn.
Doesn't matter what GUI toolkit they are using, conceptually this is how you
have to do it.

Kind of shocked when I looked to see they have their own VCL thin wrapper
around native stuff. Zinc tried that years ago. I wrote a few books on it. Zinc
basically gone.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinc_Application_Framework

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--- Comment #100 from David  ---
(In reply to Sahil Gautam from comment #98)
> How I imagine solving it:
> 
> Suppose that the UI side is taken care of, then isn't opening a document in
> a new tab same as clicking on some document from the startcenter (or opening
> a new document), and just showing a box(tab) with it's name type and maybe
> save state. And Closing a tab would be same as clicking on the cross button
> on the top right corner.
> 
> And talking about the UI, Notebookbar's "tags" like file, home etc,is the
> closest analog to tabs I see in LIbreoffice's UI, and studying and modifying
> that so as to dynamically create those "tags", but for files, with a cross
> button on the right side, shouldn't be that complicated (maybe). "Would be
> just the perfect bug for me to work on, incremental and challenging" :).

Since the "Window" menu maintains a list of all the open documents, could that
same code be modified to create a dynamic tabbar?

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--- Comment #99 from Roland Hughes  ---
(In reply to Sahil Gautam from comment #98)
> I would like to work on this. I am working on other patches, so may take a
> month or so to make some time. But yes I have it in my hit-list.
> 
> How I imagine solving it:
> 
> Suppose that the UI side is taken care of, then isn't opening a document in
> a new tab same as clicking on some document from the startcenter (or opening
> a new document), and just showing a box(tab) with it's name type and maybe
> save state. And Closing a tab would be same as clicking on the cross button
> on the top right corner.
> 
> And talking about the UI, Notebookbar's "tags" like file, home etc,is the
> closest analog to tabs I see in LIbreoffice's UI, and studying and modifying
> that so as to dynamically create those "tags", but for files, with a cross
> button on the right side, shouldn't be that complicated (maybe). "Would be
> just the perfect bug for me to work on, incremental and challenging" :).

Wl

Before you dive into coding, you need to look at the comments someone hid
claiming they have no value when they have near limitless value to one who is
going to look into this.

First, you have to know what "this" is.

StarOffice which was a predecessor of OpenOffice whose code became Libre Office
had one tab per document way back with version 5.2.

Lotus Symphony for 32-bit Ubuntu 8.x also had tab interface and the Navigator.
That code was returned by IBM to OpenOffice and by extension Libre Office. The
Navigator made it into LO, the tabbed interface did not.

32-bit Symphony can be found here: 
https://www.logikalsolutions.com/wordpress/sdm_downloads/lotus-symphony-32-bit-for-ubuntu-8-04/

You can see how to set up Ubuntu 8 32-bit and get the download link for
Symphony here:

https://www.logikalsolutions.com/wordpress/information-technology/lotus-symphony/

That will give you a good idea how the one-tab-per-document functionality
previously worked with a codebase ancestor. If you want to try to identify
where/when the code was checked into Apache OpenOffice from IBM you can dig
through this message thread. This might have been lost as part of the Java
purge though.

There is another bug which gets mentioned much but I don't know the number.
That is the one that Tom, I, and many others wish existed. That "this" is Lotus
WordPro with tabbed sections and divisions ___within___ a document and a
multi-tabbed document interface. Very difficult to describe to one who hasn't
used it. Kind of like trying to describe what salt tastes like to someone that
has never had any.

You can read about it and see screen shots here:
https://www.logikalsolutions.com/wordpress/information-technology/thank-you-for-your-future-abandonware/

Do a Web search for "Lotus SmartSuite." There are "used software" places
selling it. eBay, Amazon, even Offer-Up.

https://offerup.com/item/detail/ee98975a-b2c4-3f55-8b5c-83c94c909e8a

I see that one "reduced" it to $10 from $20. You really need to use the
software for a bit to understand __how__ it functioned. Under the hood is
different from the UI. It's the UI and single file capability everyone is
talking about.

After you've researched both of those you can decide which "this" you wish to
work on. You will at least have a much better idea about how to implement
without blocking any future enhancement.

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--- Comment #98 from Sahil Gautam  ---
I would like to work on this. I am working on other patches, so may take a
month or so to make some time. But yes I have it in my hit-list.

How I imagine solving it:

Suppose that the UI side is taken care of, then isn't opening a document in a
new tab same as clicking on some document from the startcenter (or opening a
new document), and just showing a box(tab) with it's name type and maybe save
state. And Closing a tab would be same as clicking on the cross button on the
top right corner.

And talking about the UI, Notebookbar's "tags" like file, home etc,is the
closest analog to tabs I see in LIbreoffice's UI, and studying and modifying
that so as to dynamically create those "tags", but for files, with a cross
button on the right side, shouldn't be that complicated (maybe). "Would be just
the perfect bug for me to work on, incremental and challenging" :).

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--- Comment #97 from Todd  ---
I just installed "Only Office":
https://www.onlyoffice.com/download-desktop.aspx 
It has document tabs.  It is also more snappy than LibreOffice.  And it seems
at first glance to be missing the "Rube-Goldberg" effect that Libre Office is
going after where you need to read manuals and take university courses pn it to
use it.

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--- Comment #96 from Roland Hughes  ---
(In reply to Todd from comment #94)
> (In reply to Roland Hughes from comment #93)
> 
> 
> What we are experiencing here is the downside of the open source economics
> model.  You give the code away for free, then hold the user hostage for
> corrections and enhancements.  And the developers do deserve to be paid for
> what they do.  Unfortunately, individuals can not afford to to put the
> developers on their payroll.  So this very, very legitimate request gets
> ignored year after year after year.

Weeel, I paid money for a 5-user license of Textmaker not all that long ago
because the free version didn't support running page headers/footers and a few
other things. I do not pay for or use their Cloud/online stuff.

OnlyOffice gives away the desktop editors/software for free and sells
subscriptions to their cloud/online version used by companies. They did a
bang-up job on the desktop editors which run on Linux and many other platforms
and they really focused on the collaboration aspect when they went to the cloud
services so OnlyOffice is pretty well funded with lots of new features.

It appears LibreOffice online was a complete bust.
https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-online/

I'm old so please forgive me if the gray cells cross something but . . .

StarOffice 5.2 had _a_ multi-tab feature (which might have been multiple
documents)

StarOffice was the predecessor to OpenOffice, was it not?

Somewhere in the middle between OpenOffice and Oracle's consumption of SUN
Microsystems IBM took the OpenOffice code base and created Lotus Symphony (not
to be confused with the MS DOS version of Lotus Symphony) which actually
supported multiple tabs.

https://www.logikalsolutions.com/wordpress/information-technology/lotus-symphony/

After or about the time there-of the creation of LibreOffice IBM decided the
had the new editor they wanted for Lotus Notes and they released the Lotus
Symphony code back to the project.


So it's not really a "new feature" request but more of an excavate and find out
how this got lost request.

The dirty little secret about funding OpenSource projects is that you have to
have a solid code base prior to asking for support contracts and large
donations.

Stability == revenue stream

Large sweeping changes so files can't be used between versions == welfare
Christmas


> 
> I personally use the wildly abandoned Word Pro, which runs circles around
> LO, and LO when I have to share things with customers.

There are many times I am tempted to set up an OS/2 Warp machine so I can have
Lotus SmartSuite again. Thankfully I'm writing more software than books right
now.

The last book I wrote with LO is my book on Emacs. I had to use Craigslist to
find an editor that would use LO and Linux Mint. That was before Christmas.
After posting this I'm going to fire them because they are still not done.

For previous books there was always someone on ServiceScape that would do it
and give me a professional editing job in just a couple weeks. Nobody on
ServiceScape will touch LO anymore and that is the largest pool of quality
freelance editors I have found in my 30+ years of writing.

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--- Comment #95 from Roland Hughes  ---
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Lotus Symphony tabbed documents

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--- Comment #94 from Todd  ---
(In reply to Roland Hughes from comment #93)

> Given how LO habitually breaks everything, especially image handling, is
> that even a concern. I had to stop using LO for anything that mattered
> because release to release I could not be certain of opening an existing
> document and having it displayed anywhere near the same.
> 
> As is indicated by the images, StarOffice 5.2 actually had this feature.

Hi Roland,

What we are experiencing here is the downside of the open source economics
model.  You give the code away for free, then hold the user hostage for
corrections and enhancements.  And the developers do deserve to be paid for
what they do.  Unfortunately, individuals can not afford to to put the
developers on their payroll.  So this very, very legitimate request gets
ignored year after year after year.

I personally use the wildly abandoned Word Pro, which runs circles around LO,
and LO when I have to share things with customers.  If I would have to describe
LO in a single word, I'd have to say it would be "awkward".   Division tabs
would go so, so far to improve that complaint, but unless someone with deep
pockets sets forward, don't hold your breath.

-T

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--- Comment #93 from Roland Hughes  ---
(In reply to Regis Perdreau from comment #92)
> This ticket is open since 2011... it's a good interesting feature although.
> The question are : is it feasible without breaking everything ? Who can do
> it ?

Given how LO habitually breaks everything, especially image handling, is that
even a concern. I had to stop using LO for anything that mattered because
release to release I could not be certain of opening an existing document and
having it displayed anywhere near the same.

As is indicated by the images, StarOffice 5.2 actually had this feature.

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--- Comment #92 from Regis Perdreau  ---
This ticket is open since 2011... it's a good interesting feature although.
The question are : is it feasible without breaking everything ? Who can do it ?

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--- Comment #90 from Maximilian Kohler  ---
I need this. Atlantis Word Processor has this and it’s very useful, especially
when paired with “Reload open documents at startup”.

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--- Comment #88 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to mango wodzak from comment #87)
> This might well come under a different topic, but I'd like to see this
> feature added at the same time as tabs:
> ...

Probably something along these lines, bcz for any UI framework to support a
tabbed MDI and split handling of ODF document model into divisions/sections, it
would also require some effort with the MRU and the "Edit View" viewports
(Shift ) recorded to ODF and user profile.

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--- Comment #87 from mango wodzak  ---
This might well come under a different topic, but I'd like to see this feature
added at the same time as tabs:

I've used the softmaker office suite in the past, which also has tabbed
document feature, and one great additional feature it has is that if I close a
window, along with all the open tabs with documents I'm working on, and then
open it again later, the office suite remembers exactly where I was at, so
opens everything with the cursors positioned exactly where they had been in my
previous session.

Tabs on libreoffice should do the same thing.. be able to recall a session and
open things were one left off.. this would be especially useful for when
working on a project with several related documents.. and save us time opening
each document separately, which can be a drag when you're working on a dozen
different documents that all belong together..

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--- Comment #86 from Roland Hughes  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #85)
> (In reply to Roland Hughes from comment #84)
> > (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #83)
> > > (In reply to Roland Hughes from comment #82)
> > > > ...
> > > > 37806  specifically refers to Lotus WordPro tabbed divisions
> > > > 38401  specifically refers to Lotus WordPro
> > > > 152645 refers to the Lotus Spreadsheet 
> > > > 
> > > > None of these are referring to the MDI tabs you/this is referring to.
> > > > They've just gotten mushed together.
> > > 
> > > Actually bug 37806 and bug 152645 are both *correctly* here for MDI, bug
> > > 38401 was incorrectly dupped here and should have remained on bug 33174. I
> > > moved that one back.
> > 
> > 37806 was opened by ***me*** and it was most definitely about Lotus WordPro
> > tabbed divisions within a single document. 
> > 
> 
> Nope, from bug 37806
> 
> "WordPro also had an MDI interface, which LibreOffice desperately needs to
> get back to.  On the main menu at the top was a "Window" item.  All
> documents were open within the single instance of WordPro.  You switch
> documents by pressing ALT-W then, after the window menu appeared, a digit
> 1-9.  If more than 9 documents were open at one time (not that likely given
> the memory of the day) the last entry was "m" for more documents.  Pressing
> "m" would cause a window with all document names to appear.  You scrolled
> through the list and hit enter on the one you wanted.  This worked in both
> Windows and OS/2."
> 
> And that valid facet belongs here with MDI.
> 
> > 152645 is also not covered by this bug. While one could stretch it to an MDI
> > interface, it is really "one tab per application" where one tab has a Word
> > document, another has a spreadsheet, another has Impress drawing. This bug
> > is specifically for one application having one tab per singular document. It
> > does not cover a single application having one tab for a spreadsheet, one
> > tab for a drawing, one tab for a text document ...
> 
> Maybe, but would be the same dev effort. Remains here for conciseness as the
> "doer will decide" the implimentation, devs choice with some UX input to
> cover the functional requirements.  *Best* to keep it simple
> 
> One enhancement for MDI, one enhancement for Divisions per document.  How
> multi-modues get mixed into the UI is less of an issue than the framework
> needed to handle MDI and to handle per document divisions.

***Yes***
The very first line

"Under Lotus WordPro, each document had tabbed document sections with the tabs
running down the right side of a document."

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--- Comment #85 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to Roland Hughes from comment #84)
> (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #83)
> > (In reply to Roland Hughes from comment #82)
> > > ...
> > > 37806  specifically refers to Lotus WordPro tabbed divisions
> > > 38401  specifically refers to Lotus WordPro
> > > 152645 refers to the Lotus Spreadsheet 
> > > 
> > > None of these are referring to the MDI tabs you/this is referring to.
> > > They've just gotten mushed together.
> > 
> > Actually bug 37806 and bug 152645 are both *correctly* here for MDI, bug
> > 38401 was incorrectly dupped here and should have remained on bug 33174. I
> > moved that one back.
> 
> 37806 was opened by ***me*** and it was most definitely about Lotus WordPro
> tabbed divisions within a single document. 
> 

Nope, from bug 37806

"WordPro also had an MDI interface, which LibreOffice desperately needs to get
back to.  On the main menu at the top was a "Window" item.  All documents were
open within the single instance of WordPro.  You switch documents by pressing
ALT-W then, after the window menu appeared, a digit 1-9.  If more than 9
documents were open at one time (not that likely given the memory of the day)
the last entry was "m" for more documents.  Pressing "m" would cause a window
with all document names to appear.  You scrolled through the list and hit enter
on the one you wanted.  This worked in both Windows and OS/2."

And that valid facet belongs here with MDI.

> 152645 is also not covered by this bug. While one could stretch it to an MDI
> interface, it is really "one tab per application" where one tab has a Word
> document, another has a spreadsheet, another has Impress drawing. This bug
> is specifically for one application having one tab per singular document. It
> does not cover a single application having one tab for a spreadsheet, one
> tab for a drawing, one tab for a text document ...

Maybe, but would be the same dev effort. Remains here for conciseness as the
"doer will decide" the implimentation, devs choice with some UX input to cover
the functional requirements.  *Best* to keep it simple

One enhancement for MDI, one enhancement for Divisions per document.  How
multi-modues get mixed into the UI is less of an issue than the framework
needed to handle MDI and to handle per document divisions.

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--- Comment #84 from Roland Hughes  ---
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> (In reply to Roland Hughes from comment #82)
> > ...
> > 37806  specifically refers to Lotus WordPro tabbed divisions
> > 38401  specifically refers to Lotus WordPro
> > 152645 refers to the Lotus Spreadsheet 
> > 
> > None of these are referring to the MDI tabs you/this is referring to.
> > They've just gotten mushed together.
> 
> Actually bug 37806 and bug 152645 are both *correctly* here for MDI, bug
> 38401 was incorrectly dupped here and should have remained on bug 33174. I
> moved that one back.

37806 was opened by ***me*** and it was most definitely about Lotus WordPro
tabbed divisions within a single document. 

Later, a bunch of people who confused TAB == TAB tried to morph it into MDI.

152645 is also not covered by this bug. While one could stretch it to an MDI
interface, it is really "one tab per application" where one tab has a Word
document, another has a spreadsheet, another has Impress drawing. This bug is
specifically for one application having one tab per singular document. It does
not cover a single application having one tab for a spreadsheet, one tab for a
drawing, one tab for a text document ...

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--- Comment #83 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to Roland Hughes from comment #82)
> ...
> 37806  specifically refers to Lotus WordPro tabbed divisions
> 38401  specifically refers to Lotus WordPro
> 152645 refers to the Lotus Spreadsheet 
> 
> None of these are referring to the MDI tabs you/this is referring to.
> They've just gotten mushed together.

Actually bug 37806 and bug 152645 are both *correctly* here for MDI, bug 38401
was incorrectly dupped here and should have remained on bug 33174. I moved that
one back.

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--- Comment #82 from Roland Hughes  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #81)
> (In reply to Roland Hughes from comment #80)
> > Ummm... You seem to have removed and closed too many things.
> > ...
> 
> Not really.
> 
> Completely different UI -- MulitiDocumentInterface (MDI) as here for bug
> 37134 *NOT* to be confused with "division/section per tab" UI for a single
> document as for see also bug 33173
> 
> Both independently remain valid use case and potential work flows.

Yes, really. Maybe it wasn't you, but they got closed as part of this with
someone thinking TAB == TAB.

37806  specifically refers to Lotus WordPro tabbed divisions
38401  specifically refers to Lotus WordPro
152645 refers to the Lotus Spreadsheet 

None of these are referring to the MDI tabs you/this is referring to. They've
just gotten mushed together.

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--- Comment #81 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to Roland Hughes from comment #80)
> Ummm... You seem to have removed and closed too many things.
> ...

Not really.

Completely different UI -- MulitiDocumentInterface (MDI) as here for bug 37134
*NOT* to be confused with "division/section per tab" UI for a single document
as for see also bug 33173

Both independently remain valid use case and potential work flows.

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--- Comment #80 from Roland Hughes  ---
Ummm... You seem to have removed and closed too many things.

"Tabbed pages in documents" refers to the Lotus WordPro ability to have tabbed
divisions ___within___ a document. Authors and researchers use this to group
chapters, TOC, Index, research notes, etc. Tabs could be flagged to be included
in print or not. Same with export to other file types like PDF. 

All of these tabbed divisions exist within a single document.


At a higher level, yes, the tabs you speak of (one tab per document) also
existed. I don't have WordPro installed on any machine right now as I'm using
Linux on many machines, but yes, a different tab size/style/color/position was
used to ___switch between__ documents.

Tab != Tab

I guess we need to use the following vernacular

DocumentTab

DivisionTab

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--- Comment #79 from Wladimir Kirianov  ---
I would like to create a small summary of the research, mockups and so on that
have been done this topics. I will also incorporate my own arguments in here: 

**Why I need tabs**

I use LibreOffice Writer for various purposes, such as writing reports,
articles, letters, and notes. I often need to work on multiple documents at the
same time, compare them, copy and paste content between them, or refer to them
for information. However, without tabs, I have to open each document in a
separate window, which clutters my desktop, consumes more memory, and makes it
harder to navigate and manage them.

Tabs would solve this problem by allowing me to switch between documents by
clicking on the tabs, drag and drop tabs to reorder them, close tabs with a
single click, or open new tabs with a keyboard shortcut. Tabs would also save
my session state, so that I could reopen all the documents I was working on
when I close LibreOffice Writer.

Tabs would not only improve my productivity and efficiency, but also my user
satisfaction and enjoyment. Tabs would make LibreOffice Writer more modern,
intuitive, and consistent with other applications that I use regularly. For
example, the Adobe suite uses tabs extensively for its applications such as
Photoshop. Tabs would also give me more control and flexibility over how I work
with documents.

**How tabs could work**

Tabs could be implemented as an optional feature that users can enable or
disable in the settings. Tabs could also have some customization options, such
as color, position, size, shape, or icon. Tabs could be compatible with
existing features of LibreOffice Writer, such as split view, zoom level, or
document properties.

To illustrate how tabs could look like in LibreOffice Writer, Here are some
mockups based on the existing user interface and some examples from other
applications. You can see them below or at these links:

Mockup 1: Tabs at the top of the window with icons and close buttons

- https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=184357

Mockup 2: Tabs at the bottom of the window

- https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=165505


**How tabs could support side by side view**

Another possible feature that could enhance the usability of tabs in
LibreOffice Writer is the ability to view two or more tabs side by side in the
same window. This would allow users to compare, edit, or copy content between
different documents without switching tabs or windows. This feature could be
similar to the split view or the side by side windows that are already
available in LibreOffice Writer, but with tabs instead of subwindows.

To illustrate how side by side tabs could look like in LibreOffice Writer, here
a mockup:

- https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LO-Tabs-SideBySide.png

Mockup 3: Side by side tabs in LibreOffice Writer

**What others think about tabs**

I'm not alone in wanting this feature. There are many other users who have
expressed their interest and support for tabs in LibreOffice Writer on various
forums and platforms. Some of them have also created mockups, sketches, or
screenshots of how tabs could look like in LibreOffice Writer. Here are some
links to some of them:

-
https://ask.libreoffice.org/t/opening-multiple-files-in-tabs-optional-function-or-extension/61520
-
https://ask.libreoffice.org/t/feature-request-open-various-files-in-different-tabs-in-writer/4064
-
https://ask.libreoffice.org/t/has-any-thought-been-given-to-tabbed-pages-in-documents/3963/2

I hope you will consider adding this feature to LibreOffice Writer in the
future. I think it would make a huge difference for many users like me who rely
on LibreOffice Writer for their daily work.

**How tabs could be developed**

As for the technical solution for implementing tabs in LibreOffice Writer, I
have done some research and found some possible approaches that could be used
by the developers. Here are some of 

- Using Qt’s QMdiArea class, which provides a standard workspace for managing
multiple document interface (MDI) windows.his class allows creating subwindows
that can be tiled, cascaded, minimized, maximized, or closed. Each subwindow
can have its own menu bar, tool bar, and status bar. QMdiArea also supports
tabbed views of subwindows, which can be switched by clicking on the tabs or
using keyboard shortcuts. QMdiArea is already used by some applications that
have tabs, such as Qt Creator or KDevelop.
- Using GtkNotebook widget, which provides a container for multiple pages of
content that can be accessed by tabs. Each page can contain any type of widget,
such as a text view or an image. GtkNotebook also 

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--- Comment #78 from Todd  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #77)
> (In reply to Todd from comment #76)
> > Would the bugzilla administrator please assign a developer to this issue?
> 
> Not the way the project works, if a dev is interested (or funded to do the
> work) they'll assign themselves.

Would the Administrator please use his power of persuasion to find a developers
and "interest" him in it.

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--- Comment #77 from V Stuart Foote  ---
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> Would the bugzilla administrator please assign a developer to this issue?

Not the way the project works, if a dev is interested (or funded to do the
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--- Comment #75 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to Michael FA from comment #74)
> Created attachment 184357 [details]
> I would like it to be like the concept of the image

That shows simple tabbed MDI, but suggests using a Client Side Decoration (CSD)
to hold the document tabs. 

Possible, but doing CSD consistently cross platform requires native os/DE code
(topic of WF bug 113388), but doers decide.

More likely the MDI would first be implemented within the cross-platform
application frame, and then possibly extended with native code needed for CSD a
UI.

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--- Comment #74 from Michael FA  ---
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Concept with tabs in LibreOffice

I wish they would implement a tabbed interface as it is very helpful in
productivity.
I would like it to be like the concept of the image

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--- Comment #70 from Guy Rouillier  ---
Keep in mind that LibreOffice Calc already uses tabs within a single document
to allow multiple worksheets.  These tabs are shown towards the bottom - below
the cells but above the search drop down and the status bar beneath that.  So
that would be another challenge to deal with in considering adding tabs for
multiple documents.  Somehow, you'd have to clearly differentiate between
multiple tabs within a single document, from multiple tabs showing separate
documents.

Not saying that allowing an MDI interface for LibreOffice documents is a bad
idea.  I found this issue because I was looking to see if this was already
possible. :)

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--- Comment #69 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to Michael Warner from comment #68)

> IMO putting only the filename and title in the title bar is a good thing. I
> wouldn't mind the ability to have tabs, but I don't agree with them
> occupying title bar space. I do not care for this trend of jamming a bunch
> of stuff into the title bar, until there is nowhere left you can click just
> to move the window around. 
> 
> > Hence, it would be possible to adopt a layout similar to
> > OnlyOffice's. Another good example is Firefox's design when you hide the
> > title bar.
> 
> If this happens, it needs to be an option that I can turn off.

+1, maintaining custom Client Side Decoration cross-platform (as
Chrome/Chromium & Edge browsers do) would be an order of magnitude more complex
and too much native code.  The FireFox approach (inside a single application
frame with no CSD) is much simpler.

Only reasonable direction for providing "tabbed" MDI is extending VCL's current
Window functions as a new view mode.  And agree the mode needs to be user
controlled, i.e. toggled on-off, set number of tab documents, tear off to new
frame, etc.

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--- Comment #68 from Michael Warner  
---
(In reply to Rafael Lima from comment #56)
> (In reply to luciano_f from comment #54)
> > in OnlyOffice this feature is native
> > 
> > See this attached image.
> > 
> > https://ibb.co/r4dPWsx
> > 
> > https://mega.nz/file/lvhTmDoC#fwXtaYfy4iugnujHaTH19nl2o4qWyE1RQ8ZdmzOGzd0
> 
> I believe most LO users would welcome tabs for switching between opened
> files. This would be great for productivity.
> 
> The current design of LibreOffice consists of a title bar that has nothing
> but the filename.

IMO putting only the filename and title in the title bar is a good thing. I
wouldn't mind the ability to have tabs, but I don't agree with them occupying
title bar space. I do not care for this trend of jamming a bunch of stuff into
the title bar, until there is nowhere left you can click just to move the
window around. 

> Hence, it would be possible to adopt a layout similar to
> OnlyOffice's. Another good example is Firefox's design when you hide the
> title bar.

If this happens, it needs to be an option that I can turn off.

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--- Comment #67 from mango wodzak  ---
I'd like to also request, should tabs ever become a thing, that it would be
good to be able to separate a document from a tab (ie into a new window), so
that documents can still be viewed side by side if necessary..

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--- Comment #66 from mango wodzak  ---
(In reply to Michael Warner from comment #65)
> People looking for a document-per-tab and using Windows 10 might want to try
> out Groupy from Stardock Systems: https://www.stardock.com/products/groupy/

Groupy doesn't work well with libreoffice at all.. Have tried it multiple
times, and although it may work well for a single session, it has a history of
not working correctly with libreoffice..

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People looking for a document-per-tab and using Windows 10 might want to try
out Groupy from Stardock Systems: https://www.stardock.com/products/groupy/

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--- Comment #64 from dank  ---
I was thinking something along the lines of excel/sheets where you could add or
remove pages as you want  this is my +1

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--- Comment #63 from URxvt  ---
(In reply to Todd from comment #59)
> It is not going to happen.  The economic model for Open Source is to give
> the code away for free and charge for the maintenance.   Until we get some
> mechanism in place, like crowd sourcing, to hire a LO developer to work on
> this and several other wonderful RFE's, then it will sit here until we all
> die of old age.  They deserve to get paid for what they do.

This feature would be a big improvement. More people would switch to LO. So
more people would make financial donations. This is how it works, as well. Look
at Blender, for example.

Actually, LO is releasing new versions from time to time. I check every new
version to see if this feature was implemented. This is the importance of the
tabbed-UI. I really need it; we really need it at my job; people really needs
it. Just check the amount of comments on this thread.

Is it really difficult to implement? How much money do you need?

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--- Comment #62 from rol...@logikalsolutions.com ---
OpenSource projects will always justify not doing something by saying "we don't
have the money for it" when they don't want to do it. They simply allocate the
money to something else.

The reality is there has never been any money for any new feature.

The other reality is that an Elephant is a mouse designed by committee.

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--- Comment #61 from Luis Alves  ---
Just to add my weight to the debate, I really feel the need for tabbed
documents.
I think it would be the best single upgrade that LibreOffice could make.

As for the argument that there is no funding for it, it might be true, but when
the tabbed buttons were introduced a few years ago my thought was why did they
wasted development time upgrading something that works when tabbed documents
would be so much more useful.

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--- Comment #59 from Todd  ---
It is not going to happen.  The economic model for Open Source is to give the
code away for free and charge for the maintenance.   Until we get some
mechanism in place, like crowd sourcing, to hire a LO developer to work on this
and several other wonderful RFE's, then it will sit here until we all die of
old age.  They deserve to get paid for what they do.

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--- Comment #58 from Gerry  ---
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StarOffice 5.2 with seven open tabs

I'd also love to have a tabbed UI in LibreOffice. 

Since Staroffice was actually able to do that, I wonder whether the code is
still functional in LibreOffice? 

Please see the screenshot of StarOffice 5.2 with 7 open tabs at the bottom of
the window. In fact, StarOffice went that far, that the tabbed UI included all
StarOffice applications. In the screenshot, you see tabs of Writer, Calc and
Draw.

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2020-09-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #57 from Todd  ---
(In reply to Rafael Lima from comment #56)

> I believe most LO users would welcome tabs for switching between opened
> files. This would be great for productivity.

We have been using Master PDF Editor to fill in tax forms the past two weeks. 
It also supports tabbed files.  The tabs are a wonderful productivity tool.  We
also have the option of using PDF Studio, which does not support tabbed
documents.  It is much more difficult to use when you have multiple documents
open.

I doubt LO will ever implement this unless we can put together a crowd source
funding to cover the labour involved.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 37134] Tabbed UI: Document-per-tab (similar to Firefox, Opera, gedit) MDI

2020-09-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37134

--- Comment #56 from Rafael Lima  ---
(In reply to luciano_f from comment #54)
> in OnlyOffice this feature is native
> 
> See this attached image.
> 
> https://ibb.co/r4dPWsx
> 
> https://mega.nz/file/lvhTmDoC#fwXtaYfy4iugnujHaTH19nl2o4qWyE1RQ8ZdmzOGzd0

I believe most LO users would welcome tabs for switching between opened files.
This would be great for productivity.

The current design of LibreOffice consists of a title bar that has nothing but
the filename. Hence, it would be possible to adopt a layout similar to
OnlyOffice's. Another good example is Firefox's design when you hide the title
bar.

However, I'd like to point out that:
1) OnlyOffice allows to have tabs from different applications (spreadsheets,
presentations and text documents) in the same window. I personally would prefer
to have tabs grouped by application.

2) Some users do not like tabs to switch between files. Therefore, if this
feature is to be implemented, it should be optional. This could be done by
adding an option to the Tools -> Options -> View dialog. There could be a "Open
new files as tabs" checkbox.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 37134] Tabbed UI: Document-per-tab (similar to Firefox, Opera, gedit) MDI

2020-08-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37134

--- Comment #55 from Gabriele Ponzo  ---
Anyway, from my POV it should be optional, since in my (current) daily job, I
use many LO windows tiled and I need them that way, since I have to assemble
and translate technical manuals.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 37134] Tabbed UI: Document-per-tab (similar to Firefox, Opera, gedit) MDI

2020-08-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37134

--- Comment #54 from luciano_f  ---

in OnlyOffice this feature is native

See this attached image.

https://ibb.co/r4dPWsx

https://mega.nz/file/lvhTmDoC#fwXtaYfy4iugnujHaTH19nl2o4qWyE1RQ8ZdmzOGzd0

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 37134] Tabbed UI: Document-per-tab (similar to Firefox, Opera, gedit) MDI

2020-08-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37134

--- Comment #53 from luciano_f  ---
Hello, good morning everyone.

Some position on this Guides feature as it would make LibreOffice very powerful
and I believe that more users of Microsoft Office would migrate to LibreOffice.

  Currently OnyOffice already has this feature.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 37134] Tabbed UI: Document-per-tab (similar to Firefox, Opera, gedit) MDI

2020-01-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37134

--- Comment #52 from David  ---
(In reply to roland from comment #51)
> What everyone seems to be missing is these aren't separate document files.
> All tabbed divisions exist in a single LWP file. I un-hid the comments which
> someone flagged as off-topic so you can have a better idea of what people
> are really asking for. Those images are highly relevant to understanding
> this.

What's being missed is that this bug is for documents per tab.  The bug for
divisions/sections per tab is 33173.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 37134] Tabbed UI: Document-per-tab (similar to Firefox, Opera, gedit) MDI

2020-01-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37134

--- Comment #51 from rol...@logikalsolutions.com ---
(In reply to Lynne Connolly from comment #50)
> Could this be done as an extra toolbar? Then it could be arranged as the
> user likes, or hidden if wished. A toolbar with all the open documents
> listed on it, and the ability to switch from one document to another, and to
> rearrange the tabs with drag and drop.

What everyone seems to be missing is these aren't separate document files. All
tabbed divisions exist in a single LWP file. I un-hid the comments which
someone flagged as off-topic so you can have a better idea of what people are
really asking for. Those images are highly relevant to understanding this.

A tabbed division is "conceptually" a separate document but it physically
exists in the hierarchy tree of the LWP file. 

When you change the position of a tabbed division, i.e. dragging it between 2
others, you physically change its hierarchical position in the file. You can
save that file, copy to a thumb drive, take to another machine, and it will
open up with those tabs in that order.

Unless the OpenDocument specification is going to expand/change, this isn't
something that can be "faked" into LO. Others can way in, but as far as I know,
LWP was the only file format to support this.

Scrivener has something now, but I don't know what it is.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 37134] Tabbed UI: Document-per-tab (similar to Firefox, Opera, gedit) MDI

2020-01-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37134

--- Comment #50 from Lynne Connolly  ---
Could this be done as an extra toolbar? Then it could be arranged as the user
likes, or hidden if wished. A toolbar with all the open documents listed on it,
and the ability to switch from one document to another, and to rearrange the
tabs with drag and drop.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 37134] Tabbed UI: Document-per-tab (similar to Firefox, Opera, gedit) MDI

2019-12-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37134

--- Comment #49 from rol...@logikalsolutions.com ---
Just finished testing install on Windows 10 64-bit Pro from CD. Works just
fine. Must be Admin, not just a user with Admin privs. Had to install printer
in VM. Default Oracle Virtualbox will have NAT as network device setup. This
allows Internet but not local net access. Must changed to Bridged for local
network printer access. Sadly you won't have Internet access then. Thankfully
you can change this on the fly without restarting the VM.

NAS is taking it's sweet time hunting for .lwp extensions.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 37134] Tabbed UI: Document-per-tab (similar to Firefox, Opera, gedit) MDI

2019-12-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37134

--- Comment #48 from rol...@logikalsolutions.com ---
(In reply to Xisco Faulí from comment #43)
> Changing priority to 'high' since the number of duplicates is 5 or higher

Thank you s much! I added some screen shots. To really understand the power
of tabbed divisions you really have to use them for a while or pick up one of
the old books on eBay.

It will install under Windows 7 Pro 64-bit. You have to first enable the
Administrator account, not just be logged in with administrator privs. The same
"might" work for Windows 10 but most claim the product simply either won't
install or run under Windows 10. Might want to create XP VM for testing. 

Definitely install in a VM. The common complaint is that it installs older
versions of fonts over top of newer, better looking versions of the same fonts.
Some instructions on how to "fix" that can be found in the comments at this
download link.

https://archive.org/details/LotusSmartSuite99

Another supposed download link.

https://softadvice.informer.com/Lotus_Word_Pro_Viewer.html

The only difficult thing is getting the LWP spec. I haven't seen it in years.
There appears to now be a murky little circle still understanding it. Deb
printing claims to support everything under the sun.
https://debprinting.com/page/accepted-file-formats

This document converter site also claims to support it.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=web=14=rja=8=2ahUKEwjH59qH-5bmAhWQMd8KHR64C0gQFjANegQICBAB=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.etyn.com%2Ftools%2Fdocument-converter=AOvVaw2T_a2okvxER7LaHrVOdUCb

Yes, LO claims LWP support, but, as others monitoring this will most likely
chime in, not really. I had an awful lot of lwp files from back in the day,
some of which I needed. I used to use the VM->WordPro->File-SaveAs to get the
bulk of them. Launching network search now to find any remaining. If they are
not for companies still in business and not for systems still in use I will
provide. Most of that stuff was created during my OS/2 Warp days so it should
be relatively safe to allow into the wild.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 37134] Tabbed UI: Document-per-tab (similar to Firefox, Opera, gedit) MDI

2019-12-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37134

--- Comment #47 from rol...@logikalsolutions.com ---
Created attachment 156247
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=156247=edit
after changing name

After changing name.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 37134] Tabbed UI: Document-per-tab (similar to Firefox, Opera, gedit) MDI

2019-12-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37134

--- Comment #46 from rol...@logikalsolutions.com ---
Created attachment 156246
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division properties 2

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 37134] Tabbed UI: Document-per-tab (similar to Firefox, Opera, gedit) MDI

2019-12-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #45 from rol...@logikalsolutions.com ---
Created attachment 156245
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division properties 1

menu lets you do many things including change properties

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 37134] Tabbed UI: Document-per-tab (similar to Firefox, Opera, gedit) MDI

2019-12-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #44 from rol...@logikalsolutions.com ---
Created attachment 156244
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right click to add division/tab

Right click on division tab pops up this menu

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 37134] Tabbed UI: Document-per-tab (similar to Firefox, Opera, gedit) MDI

2019-12-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Xisco Faulí  changed:

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   Priority|medium  |high

--- Comment #43 from Xisco Faulí  ---
Changing priority to 'high' since the number of duplicates is 5 or higher

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 37134] Tabbed UI: Document-per-tab (similar to Firefox, Opera, gedit) MDI

2019-07-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 37134] Tabbed UI: Document-per-tab (similar to Firefox, Opera, gedit) MDI

2019-04-29 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 37134] Tabbed UI: Document-per-tab (similar to Firefox, Opera, gedit) MDI

2019-03-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 37134] Tabbed UI: Document-per-tab (similar to Firefox, Opera, gedit) MDI

2019-03-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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 Blocks||108137


Referenced Bugs:

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[Bug 108137] [META] Writer feature enhancements
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 37134] Tabbed UI: Document-per-tab (similar to Firefox, Opera, gedit) MDI

2019-03-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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V Stuart Foote  changed:

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 CC||stian.aarskaug@protonmail.c
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--- Comment #42 from V Stuart Foote  ---
*** Bug 121809 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 37134] Tabbed UI: Document-per-tab (similar to Firefox, Opera, gedit) MDI

2019-03-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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 CC||c.bu...@posteo.jp

--- Comment #41 from V Stuart Foote  ---
*** Bug 111431 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 37134] Tabbed UI: Document-per-tab (similar to Firefox, Opera, gedit) MDI

2019-03-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #40 from V Stuart Foote  ---
*** Bug 38401 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 37134] Tabbed UI: Document-per-tab (similar to Firefox, Opera, gedit) MDI

2019-03-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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 CC||rol...@logikalsolutions.com

--- Comment #39 from V Stuart Foote  ---
*** Bug 37806 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 37134] Tabbed UI: Document-per-tab (similar to Firefox, Opera, gedit) MDI

2019-03-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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 CC||toddandma...@zoho.com

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*** Bug 33173 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 37134] Tabbed UI: Document-per-tab (similar to Firefox, Opera, gedit) MDI

2019-02-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #37 from Milos Sramek  ---
+1
I would appreciate this feature a lot. The four most used programs by me are
Firefox, gnome-terminal, gvim and LibreOffice. Three of them have tabs, but LO
not. I miss it.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 37134] Tabbed UI: Document-per-tab (similar to Firefox, Opera, gedit) MDI

2019-02-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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