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Suggestion on bug 161029 was to make this a topic for documentation.
Implementation issues should be handled elsewhere.

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Bug 161029 Summary: Special Find presets with regular expression
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--- Comment #28 from Adalbert Hanßen  ---
It works, but not very stable. From time to time it issues error messages and
you end up in a macro definition screen. Also AltSearch is terribly slow.

The AltSearch functionality including its ability to store and to reapply
stored search patterns plus the ability to uses PCRE regex expressions with all
quantifiers (see comment 25) plus the ability to search for character styles,
paragraph styles and son on should be in LO Writer itself.

The syntax and the way storing/retrieving search patterns should follow the
model from  AltSearch 1.4.2. That's designed very well. But it has been
realized  not so well.

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Bug 138931 Summary: FIND & REPLACE DIALOG: \\n in the regex Replace is same 
like \n (escaping not working)
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Bug 138931 Summary: FIND & REPLACE DIALOG: \\n in the regex Replace is same 
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--- Comment #27 from Timur  ---
AltSearch 1.4.2 seems not to work from LO 7.5.

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--- Comment #26 from bunkem  ---
Still outstanding since 2011?  That's unfortunate.

I just came across this shortfall this morning and was disappointed to find
that I need to find an extension to do the functionality that LO should do out
of the box.  Using AltSearch will help on the Writer side but as it doesn't
work in Impress or Calc, this will be a never ending frustration.  

Can we do something to increase the priority?  The suggestion of a bounty was
also good.

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Bug 43107 Summary: Regular expression "\n" in replace field inputs "\n" instead 
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--- Comment #25 from Adalbert Hanßen  ---
(In reply to Jax from comment #12)
> Bump.  This bugz me, and always has, that LO, & OO before it, don't have the
> complex Find & Replace features that are so much better handled in M$
> Office.  The features of good F are pretty much crucial to my effective
> processing of documents, so I'd like to see this given fairly high priority.
> F is a real 'guts' issue that underpins the bells and whistles stuff.
> 
> AltSearch 1.4.1 is available but is buggy, not able to complete some of the
> features that it has and really quite broken on some installations (I tried
> to install it on a friend's Mac on OO - presume that LO is the same).
> 
> I'm not a coder, but very willing to help test this.  Anyone?

"Now", i.e. since 2017, AltSearch 1.4.2 is available. It has some important
features:

* it can search for regular expressions. Unfortunately the ? quantifier (at
least once, but you may circumvent that one by {1,}) and the * quantifier (any
number of times including zero times) don't work, also lookback and
lookahead-conditions are not supported (e.g. (?<=-)(\d{2})(?=-)  meaning exact
2 digits with a minus sign before and after them which are not caught by the
regex)

* searching for \p and replacing it by \n lets you exchange paragraph marks by
forced line feeds, a function which I use very often and which misses terribly
in LO Writer and which alone probably would be easily implementabel,

* it can search for all occurrences of a given character prototype. Once they
are found and marked (unfortunately this takes a lot of time) you can assign
just another character prototype to all found samples (LO Writer can't do
that),

* it can search for all occurrences of a given paragraph prototype. Once they
are found and marked (unfortunately this takes a lot of time) you can assign
just another paragraph prototype to all found paragraphs (LO Writer also can do
that),

* it can search for a whole range of other text properties e.g. italics,
underline, hyperlinks, ... (I have not tried them out).

For men, replace any paragraph marks (including any number of white spaces
before them) by a linefeed is the most used function of AltSearch.

Due to the implementation in some type of Basic interpreter, AltSearch is very
slow. Unfortunately it is not free from bugs. The worst one I know about is
that it might remove the whole highlighted region if it is part of a table. To
safeguard me from this bug, I always extract the whole range where AltSearch
shall be applied (if it is part of a table) to a new document and do the
replacements there. When done, I cut it from the intermediate document and
paste it to the table where the stuff belongs.

Meanwhile LibreOffice has some regular expression capabilities. Lookahead and
lookbehind work. Unfortunately \1 \2, \3... for capture groups don't work in
the replacement part (one would e.g. use this to transform date in the form
mm/dd/ to dd.mm. or -mm-dd).

The important missing thing in LO's replace dialog with respect to regular
expressions is the ability to store regexes + replacement rules and assign
names to them in order to reuse them. AltSearch shows a good model for an user
interface for that.

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--- Comment #24 from Paolo Benvenuto  ---
since there isn't any way to replace something with a line break, I'd consider
this a bug.

I consider it is worth some attention by the project!

Maybe a bounty could help? I'd participate in it!

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--- Comment #23 from rafael.linux.u...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to Adalbert Hanßen from comment #20)
> Looking through all the related duplicates, I see that Search is an
> issue for almost ten years. There is an ancestor bug report from 2003 in AOO!

We are in 2021 and no changes. When I explain LO Writer to my pupils and let
them now this "must" have about to search "paragraph breaks", I end my class
telling them "Maybe this will be solved in future, just after MSOffice become
open source." That's my hope about making that search to work from LO  :(

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--- Comment #20 from Adalbert Hanßen  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #14)
> (In reply to Timur from comment #13)
> > ...
> 
> I understand this ticket as RegEx in F and 100672 as to add something
> special on top of it.
> 
> F (as well as the findbar) in the current implementation is the opposite
> to usability and we should think about a new UI. If you would do the
> implementation I'd be happy to do the design engineering.

Looking through all the related duplicates, I see that Search is an
issue for almost ten years. There is an ancestor bug report from 2003 in AOO!

Since writing regexes is not very easy, don't forget to make something like the
"batch" feature (store and re-apply stored regexes, being able to give them
reasonable names) is not forgotten!

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Bug 37494 Summary: Find \n replace\n does NOT work (regular expressions work 
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--- Comment #14 from Heiko Tietze  ---
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> Heiko, can you please look at this one and note whether it make sense to
> stay open? I noticed some talk on Find in GSoC, if I'm right. 
> Is Bug 100672 a duplicate? Looks so to me, but I may be biased. 
> Please look at the duplicates here.

I understand this ticket as RegEx in F and 100672 as to add something special
on top of it.

F (as well as the findbar) in the current implementation is the opposite to
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Heiko, can you please look at this one and note whether it make sense to stay
open? I noticed some talk on Find in GSoC, if I'm right. 
Is Bug 100672 a duplicate? Looks so to me, but I may be biased. 
Please look at the duplicates here.

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Bug 34390 Summary: Add to 'Search/Find & Replace' capability to find frame, 
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[Bug 102847] [META] Quick Find, Search and Replace
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--- Comment #12 from Jax  ---
Bump.  This bugz me, and always has, that LO, & OO before it, don't have the
complex Find & Replace features that are so much better handled in M$ Office. 
The features of good F are pretty much crucial to my effective processing of
documents, so I'd like to see this given fairly high priority.  F is a real
'guts' issue that underpins the bells and whistles stuff.

AltSearch 1.4.1 is available but is buggy, not able to complete some of the
features that it has and really quite broken on some installations (I tried to
install it on a friend's Mac on OO - presume that LO is the same).

I'm not a coder, but very willing to help test this.  Anyone?

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--- Comment #11 from Manuel Lopez-Ibanez  ---
*** Bug 95708 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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--- Comment #10 from Timur  ---
Extension
http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/alternative-dialog-find-replace-for-writer
still works. At least it could be bundled with the LO.
I agree that Find & Replace could be inserted in the Sidebar, as the 5th tab.

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