[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101774] Named content in writer; master documents; templates; docbook

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Heiko Tietze  changed:

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--- Comment #10 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Old ticket, no further input- so let's remove the UX flag and have developers
doing their magic.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101774] Named content in writer; master documents; templates; docbook

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Thomas Lendo  changed:

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Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108137
[Bug 108137] [META] Writer feature enhancements
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101774] Named content in writer; master documents; templates; docbook

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Heiko Tietze  changed:

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--- Comment #9 from Heiko Tietze  ---
I wonder if some use cases can be done with variables. But any content should
be named, so far I agree. Lets see what others think.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101774] Named content in writer; master documents; templates; docbook

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V Stuart Foote  changed:

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Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50699
[Bug 50699] Template Changer: Allow ability to change a document's associated
template
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101772
[Bug 101772] UI - View source -> XML source raw editing mode, "make Dreamweaver
obsolete"
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101774] Named content in writer; master documents; templates; docbook

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Zenaan Harkness  changed:

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   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90
   ||497

--- Comment #8 from Zenaan Harkness  ---
These might relate to document themes as well - need to analyse further. Adding
"see also" for bug #90497

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101774] Named content in writer; master documents; templates; docbook

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101774] Named content in writer; master documents; templates; docbook

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Zenaan Harkness  changed:

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Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101772
[Bug 101772] UI - View source -> XML source raw editing mode, "make Dreamweaver
obsolete"
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101774] Named content in writer; master documents; templates; docbook

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--- Comment #7 from Zenaan Harkness  ---
Also, what I mean by "will appear in a normal or print view of the file" was
unclear, it should say:

- all the entities declared in a referenced file containing declared or "named"
content, are available to be inserted as "entity fields" in the current
document;

- and, when a named entity is inserted into the current document, the content
of the "name reference" and not the name itself, will then appear in a Normal
View or Print View

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101774] Named content in writer; master documents; templates; docbook

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--- Comment #6 from Zenaan Harkness  ---
My third example:
- And so content can be created also by declaring other named bits of content.

can be further clarified:
Named content, being content that is included by a reference to the name of the
content you want to include "right here", can also be created in a nested
fashion, e.g.:

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Then, assuming say that these "named entities" are declared in the master
document, or in some file that is otherwise referenecable, then in a new
document, I could do the following:

Insert -> Named content...
And then choose "" from the drop down list.

Then, in my "normal" or "web" view of the document, my full address would
appear, and it would be like an LO "field" - so it would not ordinarily be
editable.

Of course editing and locking various named content would be a UI feature - if
it is edited, it would --always-- be the original "definition" that is being
changed.

In essence, this is how DocBook and various templating tools work.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101774] Named content in writer; master documents; templates; docbook

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--- Comment #5 from Zenaan Harkness  ---
Thanks for the explaining this need to clarify.

- "Named content" in this concept is content that can be displayed in another
document.

- And, named content can be "referenced by name" and included, multiple times
(in this or another document).

- And so content can be created also by declaring other named bits of content.

In DocBook for example, when referencing a file containing named content, by
relative or absolute filename, or by "system catalog name", then all those
names become available in the current file, and will appear in a normal or
print view of the file,

and the "reference names" only would appear in a "source" or "raw xml" view of
the file/document (also, there might be a 'named content' view created to act
as a convenient visual library of named content).

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101774] Named content in writer; master documents; templates; docbook

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--- Comment #4 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Could you please elaborate what is missing from your point of view. I mean you
can easily set a name for tables, images, charts etc. (you find the option in
the properties dialog).

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101774] Named content in writer; master documents; templates; docbook

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 101774] Named content in writer; master documents; templates; docbook

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Zenaan Harkness  changed:

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Summary|Named content in writer;|Named content in writer;
   |master documents; footers   |master documents;
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