[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 103033] Allow scrolling through Notebookbar tabs

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--- Comment #11 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Samuel Mehrbrodt (CIB) from comment #10)
> Scrolling with the mouse wheel usually scrolls whatever is under the mouse..

But we don't at property dialogs (eg. paragraph properties). At least not with
gtk3. (And personally I'm very glad it's not happening.)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 103033] Allow scrolling through Notebookbar tabs

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--- Comment #10 from Samuel Mehrbrodt (CIB)  ---
I still think this makes sense.
I would limit it to the tabs though. So only when the mouse is over one of the
tabs and you scroll, you would cycle through the tabs, as Jay's screencast in
attachment 132792 nicely demonstrates.

Scrolling with the mouse wheel usually scrolls whatever is under the mouse, so
users should not be too surprised with this functionality. And the fact that
both MSO and WPS have this feature too makes it even more clear that this is
not some weird idea.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 103033] Allow scrolling through Notebookbar tabs

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--- Comment #9 from andreas_k  ---
I'm for closing this request. Keyboard navigation should be available via
shortcut per tab as you have shortcuts for the menubar, but this is another
reported bug.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 103033] Allow scrolling through Notebookbar tabs

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Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |tietze.he...@gmail.com
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   Keywords|needsUXEval |

--- Comment #8 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Removing needsUX as of comment 7. The explanation in comment 3 makes sense
while changing the tab per wheel when everything is visible is a usability
disaster to me.

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Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102062
[Bug 102062] [META] Notebookbar: bugs and enhancements
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107237
[Bug 107237] [META] Notebookbar Tabbed
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 103033] Allow scrolling through Notebookbar tabs

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--- Comment #7 from Heiko Tietze  ---
The original request makes sense. Scrolling the toolbar is known from Android
(indicated by tabs that fade-out on the left and right edges) and Firefox
(scroll buttons). And in case of Firefox it has wheeling capabilities but
that's not the most important aspect of this UI.

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--- Comment #6 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
Created attachment 132792
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=132792=edit
WPS screencast

(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5)
> You mean like when the content area becomes larger and a horizontal
> scrollbar appears? But without the scrollbar in case of the Notebookbar,
> right?
>
> Hope I got you wrong because that would be the worst solution ever. No
> indication for the user, very uncommon behavior, weird fiddling with
> different concepts. 

Have a look at the screencast. I think this functionality would be a useful to
the heikobar.

> We would copy bad usability. Where does wheeling have an effect except to
> scroll or zoom?

Always having to go to the tabbed button bar to click on a tab to switch it is
bad usability in my view and when i stumbled on the ability to use the mouse
wheel to switch them, i found it refreshing.

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--- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Yousuf Philips (jay) from comment #3)
> I've suggested that we use the mouse scrollwheel to scroll the contents of a
> tab back and forth when the contents dont fit within the window size, rather
> than the shrinking mechanism we currently have.

You mean like when the content area becomes larger and a horizontal scrollbar
appears? But without the scrollbar in case of the Notebookbar, right?
Hope I got you wrong because that would be the worst solution ever. No
indication for the user, very uncommon behavior, weird fiddling with different
concepts. 

(In reply to Yousuf Philips (jay) from comment #4)
> As this functionality is both in MSO (tabs or content) and WPS (tabs), it
> would be good to have this functionality for users who are use to this
> behaviour.

We would copy bad usability. Where does wheeling have an effect except to
scroll or zoom? Nothing to say against keyboard interactions, ctrl+tab should
be there out of the box.

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--- Comment #4 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
(In reply to Samuel Mehrbrodt (CIB) from comment #0)
> When the cursor is on the Notebookbar (tabs or content), scrolling with the
> mouse wheel should travel through the tabs.

As this functionality is both in MSO (tabs or content) and WPS (tabs), it would
be good to have this functionality for users who are use to this behaviour.

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--- Comment #3 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
I've suggested that we use the mouse scrollwheel to scroll the contents of a
tab back and forth when the contents dont fit within the window size, rather
than the shrinking mechanism we currently have.

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V Stuart Foote  changed:

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--- Comment #2 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Maybe not mouse wheel scrolling, but certainly some keyboard navigation--e.g.
 to advance between active contextual or tabbed groupings.

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Heiko Tietze  changed:

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   Keywords||needsUXEval
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
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 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #1 from Heiko Tietze  ---
One of the most hated aspects of tabs for me because you need to carefully
track the cursor - or end up in a different part of the UI. 

But let's see. > needsUXadvice

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Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102062
[Bug 102062] [META] Extended Toolbar (Notebookbar) bugs and enhancements
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