[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 104793] "Unknown application" visual bug in Windows 10 " set default file handler" application interface

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 104793] "Unknown application" visual bug in Windows 10 " set default file handler" application interface

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--- Comment #11 from Gene Sain  ---
Having a similar File Association issue.Calc is not launching correctly from
File Association.  Noticed this after latest Windows 10 update to Version 1607
Build 14393.693 .  I usually update an .xls file monthly by simply launching
from Nexus File Manager using the Windows Default Programs File Association. 
Worked correctly before Update for Windows 10 Version 1607 for x64-based
Systems (KB3211320) which installed on 1/25/2017 and the latest Libre Office
update Version: 5.2.5.1 (x64).  

I end up with multiple processes of Libre Office running in Task Manager as
well as a Calc entry but no launch of Calc.  Played with Default Programs and
see some of the other issues described.  It will usually launch once after a
boot, but can not then re-open from file association.  Usually have to kill the
processes then before you can open the file even from within normal Libre
Office program open from the desktop.  

I tried just resetting the Profile and also uninstalled and re-installed. 
Definitely something going wrong with File Associations.

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--- Comment #10 from Ken Chappell  ---
This is fixed in LO 5.3.0.1, which is currently in testing.

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--- Comment #9 from Mike Kaganski  ---
Well, first of all, there are functions that are best done by OS/desktop
manager. This one is one of them. More generally, it is not good to duplicate
any OS-provided functionality in program, because doing this, the program takes
responsibility to catch up with any changes in OS function; it should do that
for any OS/DM it works on; it will need to fix its own bugs in this
implementation etc. Now it is done by proper registration using proper method
(installer technology suited for that kind of tasks and doing most of the job)
- some small tweaks are only needed.

Second, doing so, we cannot stop with MSO file types only. Why? We can handle a
multitude of formats, textual, spreadsheets, graphical, presentations, ...
Where to stop? And by doing that, you will eventually loose the presumed ease
of seeing associations of MSO files in one place.

Third, you may be unaware of this, but Windows "Default Programs" has a mode
that already makes what you need: it is called "Set defaults by app". There you
just choose a program (e.g. LibreOffice), and choose defaults for that program
in one place. See e.g.
https://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-set-default-programs-in-windows-10/

Lastly: it's not hammer's job to check if its owner uses it by default for
hammering nails.

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--- Comment #8 from Charles  ---
Hi Mike...

As the OP for bug 44462, I have to disagree that resolving this bug should
automatically resolve mine, because - well, because resolving this one does
*not* resolve mine.

However, this bug begs a question...

Is there a way to make these changes programatically, without being dumped to
the Default Programs screen?

I think the answer is yes, because I don't recall being dropped to that screen
when I first installed LibO on my laptop after clean installing windows 10.

But I ask this because this is what happens when I install Firefox for someone.
With Windows 7, you just clicked 'OK' on the first run to set it as default.
Done. In Windows 10, after you click OK to set it as default, you're then
brought to the Windows Default Programs settings page where you have to
manually select Firefox and change it.

Now I'm off to open a bug for Firefox to set itself as the default without
getting dropped to that screen - but I have a feeling that because Microsoft
really wants users to use Edge, they may not let another web browser take over
as the default without the extra hassle.

So, if there is a way to accomplish these changes without having to jump
through those hoops, and it is possible to properly manage these fully from
within LibO - which apparently is the case - I still think bug 44462 would be a
valuable addition, simply because it puts all of the relevant file associations
in one place and let's you see at a glance which one is set for LibO and which
for MSO.

What I would do for my bug though is to add a single option to 'Allow Windows
to control these for me', which could be made default if the devs so desired.

Of course, my being the OP for bug 44462 doesn't have anything to do with this
opinion. ;)

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   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10
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   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44
   ||462

--- Comment #7 from Mike Kaganski  ---
IMO, the bug 44462 that I add as "See Also", will be resolved for Windows if
this enhancement is finished, because this will enable OS-consistent way of
defining file associations.

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--- Comment #6 from Mike Kaganski  ---
Ref.: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/cc144154

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--- Comment #5 from Ken Chappell  ---
Yeah, .doc files (and .docx) are definitely opening with LO Writer. I wonder
why the Windows interface still lists unknown application as the default file
opener?

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--- Comment #4 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Created attachment 129810
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=129810=edit
clip from Windows 10 Set Associations dialogs with LibreOffice Writer (5.2.4.1)
default

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V Stuart Foote  changed:

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 CC||mikekagan...@hotmail.com,
   ||tima...@gmail.com,
   ||vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu
  Component|Writer  |Installation

--- Comment #3 from V Stuart Foote  ---
OK, confirming. 

On Windows 10 Pro 64-bit en-US with
Version: 5.2.4.1 (x64)
Build ID: 9b50003582f07ac674d6451e411e9b77cccd2b22
CPU Threads: 8; OS Version: Windows 6.19; UI Render: default; 
Locale: en-US (en_US); Calc: group

Could be an issue in our packaging for Windows if the file association are not
taking on Windows 10.

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--- Comment #2 from Ken Chappell  ---
I want to add that, even though this is most obvious in LO Writer, this quirk
is replicated for multiple programs within the Libreoffice Suite.

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

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--- Comment #1 from Ken Chappell  ---
Created attachment 129790
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Screenshot of problem

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