[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2018-05-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106154

Xisco Faulí  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME

--- Comment #45 from Xisco Faulí  ---
(In reply to Tor Lillqvist from comment #44)
> I already files a bug about that, bug #117744

Thanks !!
Closing this one as RESOLVED WORKSFORME then...

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2018-05-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #44 from Tor Lillqvist  ---
I already files a bug about that, bug #117744

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2018-05-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106154

Xisco Faulí  changed:

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 Status|NEEDINFO|NEW

--- Comment #43 from Xisco Faulí  ---
> However, one thing I noticed while looking at the output produced with
> SAL_LOG=+TIMESTAMP+INFO.vcl+INFO.framework+INFO.sfx2 was the insane amount
> of things going on while the user is not doing anything in that dialog. Even
> if the focus is on a control that doesn't have any blinking caret, there is
> still some timer apparently firing every 20 ms. But yeah, this is just a
> FYI, I should file a separate bug for that.

Hi Tor,
Would you mind filling a new report with your finding so we can close this one
as RESOLVED WORKSFORME as mentioned in comment 41 ?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2018-05-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106154

--- Comment #42 from Tor Lillqvist  ---
I looked into the time it takes for the Character... dialog to appear after
selecting it in the right-click menu, and although not instantaneous, it didn't
seem that overly slow to me (on my Retina iMac, but on the other hand a
non-optimised debug build). Less than a second.

However, one thing I noticed while looking at the output produced with
SAL_LOG=+TIMESTAMP+INFO.vcl+INFO.framework+INFO.sfx2 was the insane amount of
things going on while the user is not doing anything in that dialog. Even if
the focus is on a control that doesn't have any blinking caret, there is still
some timer apparently firing every 20 ms. But yeah, this is just a FYI, I
should file a separate bug for that.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2018-05-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106154

--- Comment #41 from Adomas Venčkauskas  ---
I didn't realise I had attached a video when reporting. It has improved
significantly compared to that video. I am still testing on the same 2014 MBP
with 8GB RAM, 120GB SSD that I had tested with originally. The performance is
still worse than Linux, but better than before.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2018-05-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106154

--- Comment #40 from steve -_-  ---
Hm, I feel we should rather go with a new bug in that case. The video from
2017-02-23 shows the dialog takes 15+ seconds to open. If it is now under 5
that is quite an improvement. For me it is under 2 seconds.

@Adomas: Which macOS are you on? Are you using an SSD or HDD? How much RAM?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2018-05-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #39 from Adomas Venčkauskas  ---
I originally reported that this was taking well over 5 seconds. On the latest
dev build this is taking a little under 5 seconds. I reported this over a year
ago and have forgotten what the experience was then, but I see that other
commenters noted that context-menus were taking a long time to open.
Context-menus appear to open pretty instantaneously now. On the other hand, on
my linux machine, the dialogs also come up pretty much instantaneously, so
there is still room for improvement.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2018-05-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106154

steve -_-  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |NEEDINFO

--- Comment #38 from steve -_-  ---
Version: 6.0.4.2
Build ID: 9b0d9b32d5dcda91d2f1a96dc04c645c450872bf
CPU threads: 4; OS: Mac OS X 10.13.4; UI render: default; 
Locale: de-DE (de_DE.UTF-8); Calc: group

not reproducible.

@Adomas, @Telesto: are you still seeing this problem using LO 6.0.4 on macOS
10.13.4?

master builds seem to be back, feel free to test that as well:
https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/MacOSX-x86_64@49-TDF/

Setting to NEEDINFO, please set back to new after answering.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2018-04-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Telesto  changed:

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2018-04-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Telesto  changed:

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   Keywords|bibisectRequest |bibisected, bisected
 CC||caol...@redhat.com

--- Comment #37 from Telesto  ---
Adding CC to Caolán McNamara

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2018-04-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106154

--- Comment #36 from Telesto  ---
Created attachment 141096
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=141096&action=edit
Bibisect log

Bisected to.. 

author  Caolán McNamara 2016-11-05 20:28:27 +
committer   Caolán McNamara 2016-11-07 21:04:50
+
commit  64a708cba9b954afe3331f63c58218eb53b3d0ce (patch)
treeddc1bea3b63f32a1c6d377c1d1dd7aee0803fb70
parent  f01c49c4a89ecad2376fd0023625186e5cac642e (diff)
Revert "Reverts a commit series that cripple windows ci."
with addition of...

- svxlo-SvxColorListBox
+ svxcorelo-SvxColorListBox

This reverts commit db380aab1063e8a5e40111c40ee9f7921aa82601.

https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=64a708cba9b954afe3331f63c58218eb53b3d0ce

How
1. Right click a style and click modify -> monitor time taken

[Note: I might be mistaken however, it rather hard to differentiate]

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2018-04-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106154

--- Comment #35 from Telesto  ---
Maybe related:
https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/150823/extremely-slow-stylemodel-configuration-window/

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2018-04-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106154

--- Comment #34 from V Stuart Foote  ---
*** Bug 116730 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2018-03-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #33 from Telesto  ---
(In reply to Alex Thurgood from comment #32)
> Would affected users please try with a latest daily build and report back
> here ?

For the record: There are no daily builds available at the moment (since 8
february)
https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/MacOSX-x86_64@49-TDF/

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2018-03-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #32 from Alex Thurgood  ---
Would affected users please try with a latest daily build and report back here
?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2018-03-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #31 from Alex Thurgood  ---
So, I don't see any noticeable slowdown now with my master build of 01/03 or
02/03 (not sure which date exactly) :

Version: 6.1.0.0.alpha0+
Build ID: 9122f4598450d8a96e63fb29cc8166a6ae09587a
CPU threads: 4; OS: Mac OS X 10.13.3; UI render: default; 
Locale: fr-FR (fr_FR.UTF-8); Calc: group

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2018-03-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Telesto  changed:

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2017-12-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Cor Nouws  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Version|5.3.7.2 release |5.3.0.3 release

--- Comment #30 from Cor Nouws  ---
(In reply to Rene Meessen from comment #28)
> I have been using Draw on Win 11 and just switched to a new Macbook Pro 13".
> Using 5.3.7.2 on the Mac


Thanks for reporting / testing.
Please don't change the version field (to a newer version): it shows the oldest
version (known) with the bug.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2017-12-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106154

--- Comment #29 from Telesto  ---
(In reply to Rene Meessen from comment #28)
> I have been using Draw on Win 11 and just switched to a new Macbook Pro 13".
> Using 5.3.7.2 on the Mac
> 
> When I select an item and move the mouse nothing happens for two seconds
> then the item moves to the new position of the cursor.
> 
> It was a pleasure to work with on Win11 but its impossible to get any work
> done on the Mac.

Probably bug 105500. Something similar is happing in Impress (bug 106962).
Disabling the sidebar should speed up things. Or using a LibreOffice version
prior to LibO 5.1. 
https://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/

My personal preference is LibO 4.3.7.2

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2017-12-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Rene Meessen  changed:

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Version|5.3.0.3 release |5.3.7.2 release

--- Comment #28 from Rene Meessen  ---
I have been using Draw on Win 11 and just switched to a new Macbook Pro 13".
Using 5.3.7.2 on the Mac

When I select an item and move the mouse nothing happens for two seconds then
the item moves to the new position of the cursor.

It was a pleasure to work with on Win11 but its impossible to get any work done
on the Mac.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2017-11-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #27 from Telesto  ---
(In reply to Alex Thurgood from comment #20)
> There is a noticeable improvement in speed compared to the previous
> situation, but it still takes approximately 2 seconds to display the :
> 
> Format > Paragraph
> Format > Page
> Format > Character
> Format > Bullets & Numbering 

> It seems that constructing these dialogs is quite time intensive. From my
> own observations.

Libo is opening all the dialog tabs in the 'background' to set the optimal
dialog size (see
https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/vcl/source/control/tabctrl.cxx#2117)
 Which can be a bit slow for tabs which need file access, for example color
palettes (bug 112532).

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2017-10-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2017-10-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #26 from Alex Thurgood  ---
(In reply to Jan-Marek Glogowski from comment #24)
> So for some reason in your profile, when calling Dialog::Execute, LO
> processes a delayed UserEvent generated by BackingWindow::dispatchURL called
> from somewhere earlier.
> 

The profile is the one created when instdir/LibreOffice.app is launched from
the build tree, which means it is, in theory, "clean", so either this is
symbols-build related or else there is something else going on that I don't
know about...

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2017-10-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #25 from Ivan  ---
I confirm a similar bug (too slow) with draw.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2017-10-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #24 from Jan-Marek Glogowski  ---
So for some reason in your profile, when calling Dialog::Execute, LO processes
a delayed UserEvent generated by BackingWindow::dispatchURL called from
somewhere earlier.

UserEvents have the highest priority in LO, and this adds a whooping 800ms to
the 1.8s of opening the dialog. The dialog generation is actually just 600ms,
so it's faster then in my debug build. I've never seen this in my traces - no
idea, what's going on.
But generally opening the URL should probably be converted to an Idle, or it
should run the scheduler for UI updates.
A single operation with 800ms on your HW is way too long and the priority of
the file open operation is also way too high. Might be Ok, if there is no
document yet open, so the user can't interact in any sensible way… well
actually it's not.

Then there is the "first right click" delay, which initializes all macOS
spelling and grammar checking engines for all languages, which currently is 280
for me. It's just once, but it takes 3.5s in my debug build. Changing this to
an on-demand code, or a thread will be some work. I guess all other OS don't
offer so many engines, or the initialization is cheaper. Never seen this
either.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2017-10-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #23 from Alex Thurgood  ---
Created attachment 137155
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Complete Instruments Time Profile trace

Complete Instruments.trace produced by Apple Instruments

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2017-10-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #22 from Alex Thurgood  ---
Created attachment 137151
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Time Profile from Apple Instruments

Time profile obtained from my symbols enabled build of master, opening a blank
Writer document and right mouse button clicking and choosing Page to display
the Page dialog.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2017-10-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #21 from Alex Thurgood  ---
Certainly, on substantially equivalent hardware, the Mac version of LibreOffice
is noticeably slower than its Linux counterpart.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2017-10-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #20 from Alex Thurgood  ---
Tested on daily

Version: 6.0.0.0.alpha0+
Build ID: 0ad8447d3199e1c1d1f7d6ddabc9b4cded99c2d6
CPU threads: 4; OS: Mac OS X 10.13; UI render: default; 
TinderBox: MacOSX-x86_64@49-TDF, Branch:master, Time: 2017-10-19_07:06:36
Locale: fr-FR (fr_FR.UTF-8); Calc: group


The results are much the same. 

There is a noticeable improvement in speed compared to the previous situation,
but it still takes approximately 2 seconds to display the :

Format > Paragraph
Format > Page
Format > Character
Format > Bullets & Numbering

dialogs in a blank Writer document, irrespectively of whether one uses the main
menu or the context menu via right mouse button click.

It seems that constructing these dialogs is quite time intensive. From my own
observations.

Most of the other dialogs or operations available from the main menu seem
pretty snappy, apart from a very noticeable delay on first initialization of a
Finder window, e.g. for saving, opening a file, inserting media, etc).

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2017-10-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #19 from Alex Thurgood  ---
Performance is still pretty slow, not only noticeable, but in the order of a
second or two, especially when initiating dialog display :

- character dialog ;
- paragraph dialog ;
- numbering and bullets (particularly slow);
- page dialog.


Displaying or removing the sidebar doesn't seem to make any noticeable
difference.

MacbookPro 15" i7 16Mb RAM

Version: 5.4.1.2
Build ID: ea7cb86e6eeb2bf3a5af73a8fac570321527
Threads CPU : 8; OS : Mac OS X 10.12.6; UI Render : par défaut; 
Locale : fr-FR (fr_FR.UTF-8); Calc: group

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2017-10-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #18 from Raymond Wu Won  ---
There is an improvement with 5.4.2 here (macOS 10.13, 2016 13" no-touch bar
MBP) and no aggravating spinner action, but it still feels like a delay (but
not as long).

Importantly, there's no spinner after clicking on a "Create" item from the
Startcentre so that does improve the feel too.

However, I'm going to keep 5.3.3.2 installed as well for now because of the
down scrolling bug (Bug 109062) that affects all versions after that - I might
have to weigh up slow/spinner dialog opening vs sluggish scroll-down behaviour.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2017-10-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #17 from Yannick.D  ---
I did a very quick check with 5.4.2 and could not reproduce it right away.
Definitely better! Still not perfectly fluid but may be back on par with 5.1.6.
Thanks for the hint I will examine it further within the next week or so.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2017-10-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106154

--- Comment #16 from William Gathoye  ---
Hello everyone. Coming from 5.3.x, I deployed 5.4.2 last week on a bunch of
Macs and their users reported to me the problem somewhat faded away. Could you
please check out with a more recent version than 5.4.0.3 and retry with a clean
profile cf. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile#macOS ?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2017-10-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106154

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[Bug 113023] [META] MacOS performance issues
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2017-09-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106154

--- Comment #15 from Yannick.D  ---
Created attachment 136590
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=136590&action=edit
Issue not fixed in LO 5.4.0.3

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2017-09-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106154

--- Comment #14 from Yannick.D  ---
Unfortunately, this bug isn't fixed. Confirmed with Version: 5.4.0.3, Build-ID:
7556cbc6811c9d992f4064ab9287069087d7f62c, Mac OS 10.12.6.

See video attached: Menus take 8-10s to show on a 2015 MacBook (Intel Core
M-5Y51).

(In reply to Telesto from comment #13)
> The initial problem described in comment 0 should be fixed with 5.3.4.
> However I see quite a possibility the new slowness is caused by the issue
> combined in this metabug: bug 112486 (introduced with 5.3.2.2) Reading that
> 5.2.7.2 is OK but not 5.3.6.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2017-09-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106154

--- Comment #13 from Telesto  ---
The initial problem described in comment 0 should be fixed with 5.3.4. However
I see quite a possibility the new slowness is caused by the issue combined in
this metabug: bug 112486 (introduced with 5.3.2.2) Reading that 5.2.7.2 is OK
but not 5.3.6.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2017-09-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106154

--- Comment #12 from Alex  ---
I don't use Writer much so can't comment on that. But the general sentiment of
the title definitely holds true for me. I have several spreadsheets which I use
very often that just take annoyingly long to load on mac, but load very quickly
on my Windows PC. The worst though is Impress, spreadsheets take forever to
load and are just extremely cumbersome to work with, especially when there are
any images or attachments of any kind. 

The whole suite just feels so sluggish on mac, yet it feels snappy and fine on
Windows. Should be noted that there are many many reports of performance issues
on Mac in the last few years. Just search google for "libreoffice slow mac" to
find many examples.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2017-09-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106154

--- Comment #11 from lenorehor...@sbcglobal.net ---
I didn't actually notice slowness problems on MacOS (10.12.6) and LibreOffice
5.2.7.2 but when I upgraded to LibreOffice 5.3.6 I was definitely having
problems scrolling.  I could scroll up or left (I think) in a document easily
but right or down either was lagged or intermittent - in practice I had to
scroll like I wanted to scroll a lot or I got nothing. At any rate, one
direction on each axis was fine and the other was so bad I was having to click
in a cell and arrow one row/column at a time in the desired direction.  I have
two spreadsheets that sit open all day every day, one 40kB, one 32kB and both
of them were behaving in the same unhelpful way.  I downgraded back to 5.2.7.2
because of this.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2017-09-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106154

--- Comment #10 from Yannick.D  ---
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #9)
> (In reply to Yannick.D from comment #8)
> > Still present in Version: 5.4.0.3
> > Build-ID: 7556cbc6811c9d992f4064ab9287069087d7f62c
> > CPU-Threads: 4; Betriebssystem:Mac OS X 10.12.6; UI-Render: Standard; 
> > Gebietsschema: de-DE (de_DE.UTF-8); Calc: group
> > 
> > This is to the point where LO on Mac is basically not usable anymore. I
> > would set this report to critical and even consider (temporarily) stopping
> > support for Mac OS entirely if this can't be dealt with.
> > ...
> 
> @xisco: something you may want to look at or discus?

I just wanted to add that this is obviously not the road I hope LO will take. I
really appreciate all the time and work that goes into LO and wish I could
contribute more to it than a couple of dollars each year and report a handful
of bugs. My motivation for the harsh wording is aptly pointed out by a recent
blog post of the design team: stability is the single most important aspect of
(open) software. Frustrating software is worse than no software at all.
(https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2017/09/13/open-source-means-libreoffice-users/)

Maybe there's even a way to monetarize LO for Mac to fund its development and
get (back) to a truly stable and pleasant to use version? I think those
"several thousands" of dollars could be a reachable goal if there is a clear
and promising path towards a permanently stable software.

(Collabora Office and LibreOffice Vanilla on Mac App Store looked very
promising to me but keep getting bad reviews as they were buggy from the start,
aren't updated anymore and don't communicate their strategy. Probably focused
on Collabora Online and Enterprise for understandable reasons.)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2017-09-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106154

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--- Comment #9 from Cor Nouws  ---
(In reply to Yannick.D from comment #8)
> Still present in Version: 5.4.0.3
> Build-ID: 7556cbc6811c9d992f4064ab9287069087d7f62c
> CPU-Threads: 4; Betriebssystem:Mac OS X 10.12.6; UI-Render: Standard; 
> Gebietsschema: de-DE (de_DE.UTF-8); Calc: group
> 
> This is to the point where LO on Mac is basically not usable anymore. I
> would set this report to critical and even consider (temporarily) stopping
> support for Mac OS entirely if this can't be dealt with.
> ...

@xisco: something you may want to look at or discus?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2017-09-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2017-09-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2017-09-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2017-09-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106154

--- Comment #8 from Yannick.D  ---
Still present in Version: 5.4.0.3
Build-ID: 7556cbc6811c9d992f4064ab9287069087d7f62c
CPU-Threads: 4; Betriebssystem:Mac OS X 10.12.6; UI-Render: Standard; 
Gebietsschema: de-DE (de_DE.UTF-8); Calc: group

This is to the point where LO on Mac is basically not usable anymore. I would
set this report to critical and even consider (temporarily) stopping support
for Mac OS entirely if this can't be dealt with.

Extremely slow UI as described above: scrolling skips tons of frames, dialogues
take seconds to load [Bug 106154, Bug 106703, Bug 107113], completely
unresponsive UI for seconds [Bug 106958], sometimes the GUI doesn't respond to
system interactions anymore. Very frustrating and getting worse with complex
documents (see Bug 104716, not related to Mac OS).

I tried to record a screencast but its a huge file and doesn't add much value.
My experience is this: LO 5.3 and 5.4 have extremely slowly opening dialogues
(spinning wheel all the time) and horrible scrolling performance; LO 5.2
("Vanilla" App Store Version in my case) feels more fluid but has unpredictable
UI freezes up to several minutes (!!) (mostly on opening list boxes like font
size). (OOo 4.1.3 for reference feels fast in comparison but crashes randomly
for me.)

I can confirm this on a 2015 MacBook, a 2009 and 2011 MacBook Pro running
Sierra or El Capitan. I rely on LO for work and this is getting worse with each
release instead of better. Actually its not sustainable anymore but there is no
clear alternative. Sorry for getting personal but I'm certainly not alone with
this, see (other than bug reports)
https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/57739/anyone-finding-libreoffice-slow-on-osx/,
https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/79342/libreoffice-extremely-slow-in-mac-os-sierra/.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2017-05-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106154

--- Comment #7 from boru...@gmx.de ---
Confirming with 

5.3.3.2
Build-ID: 3d9a8b4b4e538a85e0782bd6c2d430bafe583448
CPU-Threads: 4; BS-Version: Mac OS X 10.12.4; UI-Render: Standard;
Layout-Engine: neu; 
Gebietsschema: de-DE (de_DE.UTF-8); Calc: group

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2017-04-29 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2017-04-24 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2017-04-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #6 from Buovjaga  ---
There is slowness on all platforms when opening cell formatting dialog in Calc:
bug 98132

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106154] Extremely slow basic operations on macOS

2017-04-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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